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SF offers Tim $100M-plus but more able on Cain

Posted on: January 22, 2012 6:31 pm
Edited on: January 24, 2012 10:46 am
The Giants are talking to franchise pitchers Tim Lincecum and Matt Cain about multiyear deals, but while there are early indications they'll have a decent or better chance to lock up Cain into his free-agent years, the team seems to be focusing on deals of two years or one with Lincecum after he rebuffed an offer of at least $100 million for five years.

Giants people are saying only that talks are "ongoing'' with Cain, but there is said to be a fair amount of optimism they can keep Cain on a longterm deal for under $20 million a year. Cain already took one long team-friendly deal, but Lincecum, who has so far gone year to year, seems more likely to wind up with a two-year deal now rather than sign a contract into his free-agent years.

Cain along with Cole Hamels has been seen as one of the two pitching gems of the 2012-13 free agent class, and while teams are salivating at the thought of having a shot at Cain, people familiar with the talks see him staying in San Francisco. Meanwhile, the Giants appear to be tens of millions apart on a long deal with Lincecum after he rebuffed their offer for five years and nine figures and he countered much higher than that. It is thought Lincecum seeks a deal for seven or eight years but would be content to do a one- or two-year contract if no megadeal can be accomplished now. The Giants offered Lincecum $40 million on a two-year deal, and the sides logically could wind up in the low 40s after Lincecum requested an arbitration record $21.5 million for a non free agent and the Giants countered at $17 million for 2012.

Baseball people believe Cain might be able to match Cliff Lee's $120-million as a free agent if he tested the market after the year, but word is that he badly wants to stay in San Francisco. Additionally, industry experts suggest that if Lincecum could put together two more years like his first four that two years from now as a free agent he could possibly become the game's first $200-million pitcher.

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Since: Aug 26, 2006
Posted on: January 22, 2012 10:54 pm

SF offers Tim $100M-plus but more able on Cain

@Mahrelo "I conquer completely." Uh...what have you conquered, Mahrelo??? Always amusing when a meathead tries to sound intelligent. I think you meant to say "concur." Or, you could've just stayed within your IQ range and said "agree," but that wouldn't have impressed the chicks at the bar, would it have? Better luck next time, sport.

Since: Aug 25, 2006
Posted on: January 22, 2012 10:51 pm

SF offers Tim $100M-plus but more able on Cain

Chalk up a win for pot heads all around the world.  Grats Tim

Since: Aug 26, 2006
Posted on: January 22, 2012 10:48 pm

SF offers Tim $100M-plus but more able on Cain

@Yankzrool Agreed.

Since: Sep 20, 2006
Posted on: January 22, 2012 9:14 pm

SF offers Tim $100M-plus but more able on Cain

timmy needs 200 mil... the ganja he smokes is TOP NOTCH!!!

<3 philadelphia 

Since: May 2, 2008
Posted on: January 22, 2012 8:56 pm

SF offers Tim $100M-plus but more able on Cain

I wouldn't pay Lincecum that kinda dough! He's not built like a Sabbathia or a Halladay.  He will break down over time, too small in stature and his body will not be able to withstand the torque that he is generating.  No way would I give him a 7 or 8 year deal! 

Since: Mar 17, 2010
Posted on: January 22, 2012 8:52 pm

SF offers Tim $100M-plus but more able on Cain

xrisanderson: I conquer completely. While Lincecem is no doubt an elite pitcher, I would more be inclined to pay for projected output from an elite position player vs. an elite pitcher on anything greater than 4-5 years. First thing that comes to mind is Kevin Brown and the anchor he hung on Los Angeles. And while the school systems in Colorado are great Mike Hampton earned an F - during his time with the Rockies. History is not on the side of pitchers, especially those with slight frames and an unorthodox delivery. 

Since: Jan 18, 2012
Posted on: January 22, 2012 8:28 pm

SF offers Tim $100M-plus but more able on Cain

Lincecum has had a better career than Sabathia and he is younger.  Sabathia got a 7 year $161 million contract, Sabthia received an extension of 57 million for 2 years.  So basically Sabathia got his 9 year $218 million contract that started at age 28.  Lincecum is only 26!  If the Giants don't give him a 7-8 year 190-210 million$ contract you  can bet the Yankees will in 2 years.   

Since: Aug 7, 2008
Posted on: January 22, 2012 8:26 pm

SF offers Tim $100M-plus but more able on Cain

The Giants (SF...not the NY...ala Joe Biden) should give Lincecum no less than $200 million. The guy is the best player on the team. His inept Giants offense did him no favors. Put him on a team with offense and look at him roll. He is so good he can win 30+games on a good team. 

Since: Jun 10, 2011
Posted on: January 22, 2012 8:12 pm

SF offers Tim $100M-plus but more able on Cain

As a Rockies fan, I hope the Giants don't sign both pitchers long-term, but man if they're smart, they will. Two aces and a farm system that always produces great pitchers is enough to keep the rest of the NL West in check. They've GOT to get Tim resigned, long-term, to go along with Cain, who appears to be staying long-term, as well.

Remember when the D'backs rode Schilling/Johnson to the WS title in 2001? The Giants can pretty much do the same with Cain/Lincecum, assuming some of their young hitters develop. Getting Posey back will be crucial, as will having another good year from Brandon Belt. With the Dodgers' Billingsley/Kershaw, we've got 4 of the better young pitchers in the league calling the NL West home.

Since: Jan 26, 2010
Posted on: January 22, 2012 7:35 pm

SF offers Tim $100M-plus but more able on Cain

I like Tim alot but Tim come on your asking for what I call " Stupid money " and nobody is worth that. Maybe the term your labled " The Freak " is exactly what you should be called asking for that amount of $$$$

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