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Yanks, Pirates talking Burnett trade

Posted on: February 10, 2012 7:35 am
Edited on: February 10, 2012 12:33 pm

The Yankees and Pirates are continuing to talk about a possible A.J. Burnett trade that could lead to more activity in the form of a couple free-agent signings by the Yankees. As of Thursday night, the teams were thought to be a few million apart in the Burnett negotiations, but they were still talking and there is some hope for a deal.

The Yankees, in a twist, want to clear some money to sign their preferred positional candidates. They are considering Raul Ibanez and Johnny Damon as possible DH candidates and Eric Chavez as a reserve. They appear to be leaning toward Ibanez for the DH role, though Damon and Hideki Matsui, two former Yankees stars, also have been under consideration. In another twist, some say it's because they perceive Ibanez as the more adept outfielder than Damon at this point (the lefty DH could be employed in the outfield in rare circumstances). The Yankees loved the way Chavez fit into the clubhouse last year and wouldn't mind using Alex Rodriguez as a DH on occasion.

The Pirates tried for Edwin Jackson and Roy Oswalt and seek a proven veteran starter such as Burnett, but so far have not acceded to the Yankees' monetary request. The Yankees have offered to pay a substantial portion of the $33 million remaining on Burnett's deal over the final two years--though, not quite enough money in the Pirates' estimation. The Pirates also have rejected a Yankees request for Garrett Jones in trade talks.  Word is, the Yankees at least initially asked the Pirates to pay well more than one-third of the $33 million, something closer to a 50-50 split of the financial obligation to Burnett. The Pirates are believed to ha ve countered by offering to pay less  than $10 million of the $33 million to go.

The Yankees have seven viable starting pitching candidates and have been looking for a trade partner for Burnett, who generally has been a disappointment in New York. No other teams have surfaced publicly as potential suitors for Burnett as of yet. He has a limited no-trade clause which curtails the number of places he can be traded.


Since: Feb 19, 2011
Posted on: February 10, 2012 9:34 am

Yanks, Pirates talk about AJ; Raul, Eric wait

Bottom line is without AJ's brilliant start in Game 2 of the 2009 WS when fat CC choked in Game 1, Yanks don't win the series. That alone has been worth the contract. I for one will be sorry to see him gone. He's a great talent, and seemingly a great teammate, even if he is wildly inconsistent and and troubled.

Since: May 19, 2009
Posted on: February 10, 2012 9:31 am

Yanks, Pirates talk about AJ; Raul, Eric wait

Id say he was completely over paid and cant pitch in the Big City, but he did help the Yanks win a World Series in 09'.

Since: Jun 17, 2008
Posted on: February 10, 2012 9:27 am

Yanks, Pirates talk about AJ; Raul, Eric wait

As a Jays fan, I can only sit back and chuckle at the choices AJ has made. He spurned us for bigger money and the big city of New York, yet he has been a collossal disappointment. He was thriving in Toronto under the wing of Roy Halladay and was really starting to become a true pitcher. Some guys will never learn.

Since: Sep 28, 2010
Posted on: February 10, 2012 9:05 am

Yanks, Pirates talk about AJ; Raul, Eric wait

Don't do it Pittsburgh! Burnett played on one of the best teams in baseball over the last three years and is coming away with a losing record, an ERA over 4.5 and an embarrasing WHIP during his time there. Statistically, Burnett would become the Pirates worst pitcher if added to the team. Yes, Burnett has upside, but he hasn't seen an ERA under 4 in 5 years.  He also only has an avg. WAR of 2.1 over the last three years, so the pirates would essentially pay millions of dollars more for Burnett than a minor league replacement player just for two extra wins a season.   This is no different than the Cubs trading Big Z to the Marlins, the Yanks should pay 25 million of the remaining 33 to make this work.

Since: Jun 3, 2011
Posted on: February 10, 2012 9:02 am

Yanks, Pirates talk about AJ; Raul, Eric wait

While A.J. Burnett is a pitching talent and a great clubhouse guy, some people just don't thrive and succeed in the fish bowl that is the Bronx.  The Pirates could be very well getting a steal at $9-$10 Million as they look to get over the hump with a young team.  Let's not forget Burnett's best years were in Miami and Toronto, more comparable in the media sense to Pittsburgh than New York City.  I wish Burnett the best and appreciate all his contributions, but some people are not made to play in New York and he's one of them and we need the roster spot for someone that is as we try to get back to our rightful place in October.

Since: Sep 2, 2006
Posted on: February 10, 2012 8:54 am

Yanks, Pirates talk about AJ; Raul, Eric wait

The key word here is VIABLE. Burnett is a head case and the Pirates should only take him off the Yankees hands if they only have to ay 5 mil of his salary.

Since: Mar 29, 2011
Posted on: February 10, 2012 8:50 am

Yanks, Pirates talk about AJ; Raul, Eric wait

AJ made his name with the Marlins and Blue Jays, not the Rays.

Since: Dec 2, 2007
Posted on: February 10, 2012 8:28 am

Yanks, Pirates talk about AJ; Raul, Eric wait

You only have to pay around $11 million in salary to get a viable 2-4 spot on your rotation, and you balk at that?

$11m for a legit #2 or #3 starter is reasonable, but it is still a stretch for the Pirates.  Their #1 starter last year was Correia, and he only made $4m...the entire starting 5-man rotation made about $8m.

I still think this deal will get done (it is good for both teams), but it will probably be with the Pirates being responsible for about $9m or so.

Since: Jan 19, 2009
Posted on: February 10, 2012 8:26 am

Yanks, Pirates talk about AJ; Raul, Eric wait

AJ Burnett never played for Tampa Bay. Get a clue before you post. Other than Garza, all of the Rays recent starting pithers have been home grown!

Since: Nov 4, 2011
Posted on: February 10, 2012 8:23 am

Yanks, Pirates talk about AJ; Raul, Eric wait

Tampa bay? I think you mean Toronto and before that the Florida Marlins. Then again both could also be considered
small market teams, and he did pitch well.
A.J.'s biggest problem is he tries to strike every body out, he needs to let his defense help and he could be
the pitcher he could be. Other than that an excellent post

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