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Early word: Nats paid too much for Zimmerman

Posted on: February 26, 2012 2:01 pm
Edited on: February 26, 2012 3:08 pm
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The immediate reaction to Ryan Zimmerman's $100 million, six-year extension with the Nationals was this:
Where's the hometown discount?

Zimmerman's total contract, which now runs through 2019, guarantees him $126 million, including the two years he already had on his deal. Forget that $126 million has been an unlucky number in baseball contracts (see Vernon Wells, Barry Zito and Nationals teammate Jayson Werth), it just seems a bit high considering 1) Zimmerman has an injury history, 2) he sprayed a few throws in recent years, and 3) the Nationals have a top third-base prospect in Anthony Rendon.

Said one competing executive of the Nats' two nine-figure deals now in the books: "Seems like they have two $100 million contracts but no $100 million payers.'' That also refers to Werth, who didn't live up to his contract last year. (Though some might say the Nats have Stephen Strasburgh and Bryce Harper, who may be worth $100 million some day.)

No matter what anyone on the outside thinks, Zimmerman was said to be the Nats' No. 1 priority this winter, and they did get the deal done. They love him for his defense, his clutch hitting, his personality and his local roots (University of Virginia). They also recall that he led the majors in WAR one year.

But he has also been hurt a fair amount, enough to question whether he warrants the ninth-biggest deal in the majors and third-biggest for a non-1B infielder (behind Alex Rodriguez and Troy Tulowitzki) or deserves to join Albert Pujols, Prince Fielder, Tulowitzki, Ryan Braun and Matt Kemp as players in the books through 2019. Zimmerman's deal also includes an option for 2020 that could bring his haul to $150 million.

Zimmerman did agree to a $10 million personal services deferral, which means only $116 million of the $126 million counts as payroll and could help the Nationals in terms of flexibility. But the reality is he's a one-time All-Star. And that's a lot of loot for a one-time All-Star.

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Since: Sep 13, 2009
Posted on: February 27, 2012 10:05 am
 

Early word: Nats paid too much for Zimmerman

First off, a couple of typos: "Seems like they have two $100 million contracts but no $100 million payers.'' It's "players."

It's Strasburg, not Strasburgh. (Does the columnist read the papers?)

As for the substance, Zim has fixed his throwing mechanics, which should cut down on errors and possibility of injury. In addition, it was important for the Nats to re-sign him, given his desire to remain with Washington, hometown (OK, Virginia) cred, popularity with the fan base, run production and fielding, and leadership in the clubhouse and on the field.

I might also point out that Fielder's contract is for 9 years, while Zim's is for 6. By the end of his contract, Zim will still be producing. Will Fielder? I have my doubts. There's also this: Fielder is guaranteed $214 million, $88 million more than Zimmerman.

Not re-signing Zim before the season started would have cast a pall over the team and the fans until October, when, I believe, the Nats will be competing for a playoff spot.




Since: Aug 25, 2006
Posted on: February 27, 2012 9:50 am
 

Early word: Nats paid too much for Zimmerman

If we're talking "real" baseball, MCab won't be able to stay @ 3rd, and to put a guy who hasn't played the position in years, in your list anyway, is reaching to make your point.  Bautista is an OFer...ARod is getting up there in age, and injuries are taking their toll (and, THAT contract is a DOG)...Beltre had two GREAT years, and had been injury prone...Hanley? - just got there, himself...Youk?...you're talking "delusiional"...YOU'RE delusional if you think Youk isn't injury prone!

The only guy you listed who I'd take over RZimm "right now", aas an all round 3B might be Longoria.  You're other recommendations...well, they're not well thought out, and in some cases, you bent the argument (on Miggy and HRam) to try to support your point...which you didn't do very well.



Since: Sep 1, 2006
Posted on: February 27, 2012 9:10 am
 

Early word: Nats paid too much for Zimmerman

You guys think King Joffe is a Nats fan? Your delusional if you don't think Zimmerman is injury prone. As for position ranking here are a few guys i would take over Zimmerman: Miggy Cabrera, Longoria, Bautista, AROD, Beltre, Hanley, youkilis.


So you're worried about Zimmerman's injuries, but not A-Rod's or Youk's? Not to mention Hanley was invisible for most of last year and it's a crap shoot what he'll do this year because nobody knows how he'll handle the move to 3rd! And Beltre? Really? He hasn't done squat since he went nuts with the Dodgers that one year. I'll give you Miggy, Longoria and Bautista, but Zimmerman is next in line after those three.




Since: Jul 30, 2008
Posted on: February 27, 2012 8:53 am
 

Early word: Nats paid too much for Zimmerman

You guys think King Joffe is a Nats fan? Your delusional if you don't think Zimmerman is injury prone. As for position ranking here are a few guys i would take over Zimmerman: Miggy Cabrera, Longoria, Bautista, AROD, Beltre, Hanley, youkilis.



Since: Sep 1, 2006
Posted on: February 27, 2012 8:48 am
 

Early word: Nats paid too much for Zimmerman

So his only reasoning that it's too much money is because of his injury record? It's like he's never even seen Zimmerman play before! Zimmerman is easily their best hitter and plays an ALMOST gold glove caliber third base! Seeing what other players are making these days, I'd say he's worth that money. Especially for a team that's made some outstanding draft picks the last few years and adding Gio in the offseason! They're definitely on their way up and they NEED Zimmerman to be in there  anchoring the middle of their lineup. As a Braves fan, I'm excited for my team, but I'm always going to have an eye on Washington because they could give that whole division FITS this year. The NL East is going to be a really tough division this year with the exception of the joke that is the NY Mets.



Since: Oct 30, 2007
Posted on: February 27, 2012 7:27 am
 

Early word: Nats paid too much for Zimmerman

Can't wait to head down to Nationals park for "Take back Nationals Park" Phils trip.  Should be an interesting series on Cinco de Mayo weekend.  Nationals front office thinking they could keep Phils fans out.  Slight misstep there.  But they will make good money from the Phils fanbase that weekend though.  Gonna be a fun season. 



Since: May 18, 2009
Posted on: February 27, 2012 6:02 am
 

Early word: Nats paid too much for Zimmerman

This is why there needs to be some sort of salary cap in baseball. Paying luxury taxes is not a penalty in my eyes. It just shows how rich the rich are.



Since: May 17, 2007
Posted on: February 27, 2012 5:57 am
 

Early word: Nats paid too much for Zimmerman

It's good if you are a Nationals fan as it shows that the team will continue to pay more than market value for players that are good but not great.  The only downside is if ownership starts to get unsatisfied with paying out money they don't take in to subsidise a team that still looks far from being big time yet!



Since: May 9, 2010
Posted on: February 27, 2012 5:06 am
 

Early word: Nats paid too much for Zimmerman

 
the Nats feel they have the 1990s Yanks / 2000s Phils -esque nucleus that will keep them competitive and in the playoffs for years. 
Oh, are you a spokesman for the Nationals? They are delusional if they think signing some good players(not superstars) to contracts that are overpaying them are going to keep them in a race for years. They have the Minor Leagues to do it but making semi-foolish deals like this one is not going to keep them in races.




As a Phils fan, I think the Nats will go from 82 to 92 wins this year while the Phils will drop from 102 to 95
Agreed the Phillies drop in wins, but you honestly think the Nationals can jump up 10 wins simply by adding Gio? Remember, Strasburg is being held up to around 160 innings and Gio Gonzalez WAR numbers indicate only a few more wins. 88-89 wins seems reasonable, also take into consideration the Braves are more than likely not going to collapse again. It's going to take them a few more years to make the playoffs imo.



Since: Nov 21, 2011
Posted on: February 27, 2012 1:27 am
 

Early word: Nats paid too much for Zimmerman

it maybe a bit much but it was necessary. i agree with a previous post in the fact the washington has to over pay to get players to come/stay. lets face it... only way to get me into that area too is that i get compensated very well. anyway since missing out on fielder the move makes sense to lock up zim and let rendon develop in the minors for a bit and when rendon is ready zim moves to 1B.  in my mind the nats are doing a hell of a job with the exception of werth (not that hes bad but price tag way too heavy).  and not letting a bad contract hold them back is even more impressive. this is an example of good organizational decsion making over a few years and teams like pittsburgh, cleveland, and oakland should take a page...


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