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Curses! Cubs fail yet again

Posted on: October 5, 2008 12:47 pm

Even though their postseason history is, well, to put it mildly, atrocious, I really thought this was the year the Cubs at least made it to the World Series.

They seemed to have all the pieces in place, paced to the top record in the NL with strong pitching and timely hitting. I know that the playoffs are a whole different monster and I did have some worries, but deep down inside I felt the Cubs were the best team in the NL playoffs and would finally prove it.

I was actually  concerned about the Phillies the most. The Cubbies owned the Brewers during the regular season and while Los Angeles was much improved once they landed Manny Ramirez, it seemed to me they were mostly feasting on the dregs of the league.

Never did I imagine the collosal failure of Lou Pinella's club in the NLDS.

Name a facet of baseball (pitching, fielding, hitting) and the Cubs managed to screw it up. The power failure at the plate, however, was the most disheartening.

The series was basically one long, twisting knife motion in the gut. Out of 27 innings, Cubs fans had four innings of happiness, that being the 2-0 lead Mark DeRosa staked the Cubs to in Game 1 before James Loney's fifth-inning grand slam.

After that the remainder of the series was pure torture, with the Cubs never seeing a game lead again.

For the longest time I believed Steve Bartman was the root of all evil because, while Alex Gonzalez did contribute an error in that infamous eight-run eighth in Game 6 of the 2003 NLCS, it was the Bartman play that started the unfortunate series of events.

But it's time to face facts, even if Alou makes that catch, the Cubs still find a way to lose that game and the series. It's what they do best. Nobody can choke in the playoffs like the Cubs.


Category: MLB

Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: October 7, 2008 7:20 pm

Curses! Cubs fail yet again

THANK YOU BRIAN!!!!!! I hate the fact that this kid (Bartman) is in the position he's in, and its a disgrace that Cubs fans have ran the guy out of town but I challenge anyone to find that video (youtube it, whatever...) and tell me you can't see the obvious: That ball is about 6 inches to a foot above Alou's wide open glove ready to be caught. In fact, it is VERY close to being interference. The ball is no farther in the stands than DIRECTLY OVER THE EDGE OF THE WALL. Let me restate that - DIRECTLY OVER THE EDGE OF THE WALL!!!! I have it on video. I have watched it in slow motion from every angle on the replay. It was a fairly easy catch. Sorry for the caps, sorry for the exclamation marks but the emphasis is warranted. If Bartman (or anyone else) doesn't touch that ball Alou makes that catch - period end of story.

Many arguments center on the fact that after that play Gonzo did this, Prior did that, Farnsworth did that too, but there is no way with 2 out the Fish put up an 8 spot. Heck if Alou makes the out and then you let the inning play out as it did, Conine's sac fly would actually be the 3rd out and the Fish come out of that inning down 3-2. We never would have got past the 2nd run.

I feel bad for the kid and I (or anyone else) may have done the same thing so I don't blame him but rather think it was a bad set of circumstances. With that said, for anyone to call us "stupid Cub fans" for dwelling on that is also absurd. It just plain sucked!!!

Let me say one other thing too. As bad as this year and (probably the second worse collapse in my lifetime) 1984 was, nothing will ever compare to the heartbreak of 2003. To be 5 outs away, no one on base, a 3-0 lead and have it ripped away was pure torture. I won't comment on '69 or anything before that because that's actually the year I was born but in my lifetime it will be hard to ever come close to the disappointment of '03. That's why all of the butt faces who like to rub in what happened this year don't really affect me much. 2003 has turned the Cubs fans skin to leather and it's not that easy to make us feel bad about missed opportunities anymore. We have truly seen it all - well, execpt for a World Series win that is.

Since: Aug 14, 2006
Posted on: October 7, 2008 12:21 pm

Curses! Cubs fail yet again


Since you brought it up ...

My opinion is that Alou would have caught that ball if not for Bartman's overzealousness. When you're in a seat right next to the field where it's possible a player can make a play on the ball, you have to be smart. As a fan of the home team, give the player a shot. I know it's a tough decision when it looks like a ball is coming right at you, but that's the price you pay for having those seats.

Until the Cubs at least make it to a World Series, I'll never forget that play. Many argue that Gonzalez also flubbed the ground ball that inning. My argument is that I'm a firm believer in the "butterfly effect." So say Alou makes that catch, that has the chance to change all events going forward. We just don't know. Think about it. If that one moment has the ability to change Steve Bartman's life forever, who's say what happens from that moment on if he doesn't get involved.

Somewhere in an alternate universe, the Cubs have 20 World Series titles.

But in his universe, I don't know if I'll ever see the Cubs win the Series. It just doesn't seem meant to be. It's unexplainable how they gag so badly once they reach the playoffs.


Since: Jun 2, 2008
Posted on: October 7, 2008 11:23 am

Curses! Cubs fail yet again

im a true fan i stick with ny teams through thick and thin but i just hate when i turn on espn and all hear about is the cubs. and by the way do you really think steve bartman is the reason for that play moises alou wouldnt have caught anyway.poor cubbies.

Since: Apr 17, 2008
Posted on: October 6, 2008 6:36 pm

Curses! Cubs fail yet again

Once again, you seem to make some special exception for the Cubs. Simply put, they are the Central Division Champs. That means that if anyone else is going to win it, they will have to pry it from our cold, dead fingers. Otherwise, it's safe to assume we will be the Central Champs again. We've already proven ourselves to dominate the division, which means that someone else will have to step up and prove us otherwise. I see the same kind of smugness from other teams, especially with Milwaukee fans who assumed they would win the division as soon as they got Sabathia, even though they were unproven. Tigers fans carried a smugness when they got Miguel Cabrera and Dontrelle Willis saying they would be going to the World Series before even playing a single game with their new team. There's no reason, then, to assume the Cubs won't be Central Division Champs again. Most of our 97-game winning team will be back, with some possible additions. And didn't it take the Cardinals until their 3rd straight postseason appearance from 2004-06 to finally win the World Series? The Cubs were the best team in the NL over the course of the season, but just didn't get hot at the right time like the Dodgers did. The Dodgers barely made it out of the dismal NL West, but they heated up when it counted the most, and that's all it really takes.

And actually, Cub fans don't put the blame on curses and Bartman...that's the media. I hear so much more about 100 years, curses, Bartman, etc. from other teams, and the media coverage, than from fellow Cub fans or the players. I blame the losing on the team's on-field performance. This team is plenty good enough, they just didn't play the way that they have been all season. I don't pay attention to this 100 year crap, or that they haven't been to the World Series in 63 years. I'm 25 years old, so all that matters to me is what's happened in the last couple of decades. So, with that in mind, there's many more teams that have not made it in forever, from my perspective: Houston Astros, Milwaukee Brewers, Pittsburgh Pirates, Philadelphia Phillies, Washington Nationals, Colorado Rockies, San Diego Padres, San Francisco Giants, Tampa Bay Rays, Cleveland Indians,  Seattle Mariners, Texas Rangers. That's 12 teams, and as far as I'm concerned, they have just as much to prove as the Cubs do.

Finally, I would prefer if you and all other Cub haters out there reserve your insults and warmongering for someone who cares. Worry about your own damn team, and shut up about all these past failures. All that matters is right now. So while you can go ahead and bring up curses and whatever else you feel would get under our skin, we Cubs fans are going to actually have some intelligent conversation about actual baseball. Peace.

Since: Feb 21, 2008
Posted on: October 6, 2008 2:26 pm

Curses! Cubs fail yet again

Those are YOUR Chicago Cubs!

Since: Jul 1, 2007
Posted on: October 6, 2008 2:16 pm

Curses! Cubs fail yet again

deathcab never once said that next year was their year to win the world series..all he stated was that with their talent they have as good a chance as anyone to win the NL Central again, which isnt saying much..then it will be off to the playoffs again with a hope of winning at least a game or a series

Since: Oct 6, 2008
Posted on: October 6, 2008 11:51 am

Curses! Cubs fail yet again

DeathCab 727--

your second paragraph shows exactly why so many of us say that the Cubs deserve the ridicule they receive. You wrote that next year the Central Diviison is "ours for the taking"-- and statments like that make non-Cub fans feel as they do--  a team with a history of ineptitude like no other has a multiude of fans, like you, who somehow believe that, each year, you  have some divine right to win it all. It's only been two days since the Cubs were dimissed by the Dodgers with no great effort, and here we are, reading your email which says the Central Division belongs to you for '09. That kind of smugness belongs right in the trash, along with all the printed staff in both Chicago papers, which both proclaimed last spring that the Cubs would be the NL's representative in the Series-- as if it were some pre-ordained fact, as if playing out the season would be unnecessary. Remember how most of the country felt when the Patriots lost the Super Bowl-- that they got what they deserved because of everything that had been said all season? Well, the same thing holds true here. Combine that with the fact that Cubs' fans are forever blaming something else for their team's failings-- black cats, goats, Bartmann, etc.-- and never seem to be willing to admit that the team just isn't good enough, no matter how much money is spent on players like Soriano, no matter which high-profile manager is brought in to run the team, no matter how many people show up at Wrigley to pay the highest ticket prices in the Midwest and give the team owners a profit that  Minnesota and Milwaukee can only dream about. The simple fact remains-- no World Series appearances for the Cubs in over 60 years. And you still wonder why the rest of us act with skepticism when they hear Cub fans declare that "this is our year"?

Since: Aug 29, 2007
Posted on: October 6, 2008 10:51 am

Curses! Cubs fail yet again

Cubs are on the Northside, where all the queers are. So get your sides right. GO WHITE SOX! GO SOUTHSIDE!


Since: Oct 22, 2007
Posted on: October 6, 2008 3:43 am

Curses! Cubs fail yet again

The Yankees are just a cash cow that overpay for every free agent that hits the market. "

How, then, would you classify Marquis, DeRosa and that "all-star" Fukodome. Yes the Yankees have a printing press for money but so do the Cubs ... just an older model.

"We've had to hear this nonsense of "100 years" all season long.

Next year you'll get to hear  "101 years" or "second century" ... all season long.

"The Central will be ours for the taking once again."

The Cardinals, Astros, Brewers and even the Reds will have something to say about that.


Since: Apr 6, 2008
Posted on: October 6, 2008 3:32 am

Curses! Cubs fail yet again

DeathCab, I'm sure the central will be yours for the taking once again; then you will lose in the playoffs once again.   See 2007 Phillies, see 2003 Florida Marlins, who have owned the CUBS since game  of the NLCS in 2003. (and who spend about 20% of what the CUBS do on salary).  This year you guys padded the record against horrid BREWER, PIRATE and ASTRO teams in the first part of the season, and cruised to the title.  Anything less would have been humiliating.

The CUBS will always be losers, that's what makes them so loveable.  You don't want everyone to start hating your team do you?

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