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Worst combined NCAA football/basketball schools

Posted on: August 5, 2010 12:50 pm
Edited on: August 6, 2010 3:39 pm
 

It's pretty clear which schools are among the best combined football/basketball programs, but what about the worst?

Flourishing Five series rundown
No. 5 Pittsburgh: Football | Basketball
No. 4 Wisconsin: Football | Basketball
No. 3 Ohio State: Football | Basketball
No. 2 Texas: Football | Basketball
No. 1 Florida: Football | Basketball
Among the BCS schools, there aren't many that are absolutely atrocious in both sports. Bad in one and average to good in the other or simply mediocre, but not awful.

Washington State is part of the former. They're very bad in football, going 18-42 over the past five seasons and 3-22 the last two years. But in basketball they're nothing better than average after reaching the tournament in 2007 and 2008. Prior to those breakout seasons, the Cougars had 10 straight losing seasons. They've been 17-16 and 16-15 the past two seasons.

Indiana is another team you can throw into the mix for BCS worst. The Hoosiers are 23-37 in football over last five years, but we'd be remiss if we didn't point out that the team was hit by tragedy in 2007 when coach Terry Hoeppner succumbed to complications from brain cancer. Recruiting violations under former coach Kelvin Sampson has rocked the basketball program. Tom Crean has been tasked with trying to dig out from the rubble, but it's not an easy process. The Hoosiers were 6-25 in 2008-09 and 10-21 last season.

Inconsistency has dogged the Michigan program. Lloyd Carr's final season as coach in 2007 was marred by a stunning loss to D-I FCS team Appalachian State. Rich Rodriguez took over and he's 8-16 in two season (3-9 in 2008, 5-7 last season). Though the Wolverines basketball team did reach the NCAA tournament in 2009, they were 10-22 during the 2007-08 season and 15-17 last year.

We could be here all day picking on non-BCS schools. Among the worst we came across ...

Eastern Michigan: 12-47 in football over the past five years, 0-12 last year and 1-11 in 2006. The basketball team was actually pretty decent last year going 17-15. It was the first time they finished above .500 in 10 years.

FIU: The Golden Panthers are 14-45 in football over the past five years. They went 0-12 in 2006 and 1-11 in 2007. They haven't had a winning season in basketball since 1999-2000 and have averaged only 10 wins a season the past five seasons.

Tulane: The Green Wave are 15-44 in football over five years, 3-9 and 2-10 the past two seasons. The basketball team has also take a nosedive, falling to 8-22 last season.

Hawaii: At the start of the decade, the Warriors were actually a pretty decent hoops team with eight straight winnings season. But the last three years performance has dropped with finishes of 11-19, 13-17 and 10-20.  The football team enjoyed a resurgence under head coach Junes Jones. It's tough to say where the program is headed under Greg McMackin, who is 13-14 in his two seasons since taking over for Jones, who left for SMU.

I couldn't bring myself to add Army to the list. Yes, they've been bad (very bad) in both sports, but they also operate in a different manner than most other schools. I wasn't sure it was a fair comparison.

So who are some other schools who deserve to be on the worst list?

 

Comments

Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: August 10, 2010 2:58 pm
 

Indiana gave Sampson a second chance

and got burned for it.  We've manned up, and moved on.  Go Hoosiers!



Since: Jul 30, 2010
Posted on: August 10, 2010 1:20 pm
 

Worst combined NCAA football/basketball schools

I don't know how Michigan or Indiana made this list. Four years ago, Michigan was in contention for a national title in football before Ohio State ended their run in the last game of the regular season. Still, three BCS bowls this decade is a solid showing. Even the year they lost to App State, Michigan put together a nine-win season. In basketball, they have consistently been a bubble team for the last 10 or so years, never great, but never bad. Indiana has a terrible football program, but I think that given their history and the fact that they have a very good head coach right now who is working on turning the program around proves that they are not among the very worst in the BCS. Iowa State and Colorado are both terrible programs. The Cyclones haven't won a Big 8/Big 12 title in football since 1912. That's almost 100 years! In basketball, the Cyclones haven't made the NCAA tournament since 2005 and only have one tournament appearance in the last 9 years. Colorado has not been competitive in basketball for years and their football program was ruined in the early 2000s by the scandals. Then there is always Northwestern. They are much better than they have been in the past and if this list was compiled in the 70s or 80s, N'Western would probably have been THE WORST. They still have never made an NCAA tournament and their football program isn't the worst but still in the bottom half of the Big Ten. NC State and Virginia have also been subpar in both main sports. NC State has given us nothing in the past decade in either sport, outside of Philip Rivers, and Virginia has been consistently mediocre in both sports, when their one recent ACC title in basketball (2007) is removed. It really seems as if this list was made based on expectations of the programs. Indiana and Michigan are supposed to be good so when they aren't, they are all of asudden one of the worst teams in the nation. Similarly, Washington State has tasted success in the last decade. I can't say the same for Iowa State, Northwestern, NC State, or Virginia; and Colorado is just a program in the dumps right now.
Also, whoever mentioned Iowa for this list of worst programs in the country in football/basketball is an idiot because we have had 4 ten-win seasons this decade, been to two BCS bowls, and are coming of a win in the Orange Bowl. When you make a list like this, your talking about places that recruits don't want to play or don't care about. I think it is pretty hard to ignore Iowa's success under Ferentz. Yes, the basketball program has taken a hit and is currently one of the worst in the BCS conferences, but our football program is one of the top 25 programs of the past decade.



Since: Aug 14, 2006
Posted on: August 9, 2010 9:42 pm
 

Worst combined NCAA football/basketball schools

Good call on Colorado. The Buffs have definitely been among the worst combined football/basketball programs from a BCS conference the past several years.



Since: Apr 7, 2008
Posted on: August 9, 2010 2:27 am
 

Worst combined NCAA football/basketball schools

At any point in time a progam can and will have a down time. I thought this was an evaluation over the history of the school. That would be more interesting to me. I love my Longhorns but they wouldn't be #2. Possibly though if you consider all sports. I think UCLA would have to finish pretty high. I don't see how such tremendous success doesn't carry over a little in an evaluation.

I suppose Washingto State would be horrible right now. Without doing any fact checking I would think Iowa State would be high on the worst list of all-time. I barely remember them winning anything in football and only a little in basketball in my 40 years of watching. Sorry Cyclone fans, you have a great school that good take anyone to the mat for the count. Just not in these sports.  



Since: Aug 3, 2010
Posted on: August 9, 2010 12:48 am
 

Worst combined NCAA football/basketball schools

The U. of Colorado has a basketball program?
The hell you say!




Since: Aug 30, 2006
Posted on: August 8, 2010 10:15 pm
 

Colorado

Colorado basketball has perennially been a doormat the last 15 years, the football team hasn't made much noise in that timeframe, some good seasons here and there. Hard to say if the move to the pac 10 will help



Since: Nov 25, 2007
Posted on: August 8, 2010 9:16 pm
 

Iowa is the worst....

The Hawkeyes can't get it together...unless wrestling is considered a spectator sport...and it is, in WFR?....uhh, yeah?...overrated in football this season...Wisconsin will school them, and OSU...I think so, anyhow...what don't you think?



Since: Sep 2, 2006
Posted on: August 8, 2010 10:46 am
 

Indiana Doesn't recruit thugs

Indiana made just one mistake  _Kelvin Sampson.  Other than that its a fine school with good kids and they are going to keep it that way.

Compare it to Florida which spends many millions more has  10 times as many arrests and as a university is way inferior.  Memphis, Kentucky, Louisville, Xavier are even worse than Florida.

I admire Cal the most- it has some really smart jocks - and its just not a school for dummies - the same with Stanford.



Since: Jan 6, 2010
Posted on: August 7, 2010 8:23 pm
 

Worst combined NCAA football/basketball schools

I think Penn State deserves to be on the worst list whether you go back to the nineties or not.  Going into the Big Ego 10 they should have easily won the championship every year....they never came close to accomplishing that feat.

The basketball team, if possible, was even worse and that despite playing in a conference known to  provide a  weak product and boring game.

Beware my friends, diffendale will soon be here to challenge this thread and any you post saying nasty things about the 'nottony' lions.



Since: Feb 19, 2008
Posted on: August 7, 2010 12:07 pm
 

Worst combined NCAA football/basketball schools

It does bring up an interesting question though.  Who was the best program in both Football and Basketball during the 90's ?


To me many of the powers that won were lopsided, i.e. Duke winning back to back B-Ball with little to no Football on their resume.

Nebraska being dominant in Football yet not having much in basketball, same with FSU.


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