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CBSSports.com 120 -- Movers and Fallers

Posted on: September 8, 2008 11:10 am
Edited on: September 8, 2008 1:58 pm
 

Vander-who?

Don't look now but there is more to the SEC than Florida, Georgia and Alabama. That's because the Commodores are quickly moving up the rankings in the CBSSports.com 120.

Vanderbilt had the biggest jump this week moving up 25 spots from No. 67 to No. 42 after improving to 2-0. It knocked off Miami (Ohio) 34-13 in the first week and then upset South Carolina 24-17, earning its first win over a ranked team in 16 years.

"I think tonight's win was a statement win. We showed the nation that our football team is improving and that we are becoming a winning organization. We showed that not only is Vanderbilt University a great academic school but a great athletic school as well. There are a lot of exciting things happening here at Vanderbilt and I think everyone saw that tonight," said quarterback Chris Nickson after the game.

And with games vs. Rice and at Mississippi over the next two weeks, the Commodores might find themselves reaching the Top 25 and starting the season 4-0.

Now don't get too excited Vanderbilt faithful because it could all be short lived as the meat of the SEC schedule is still on the horizon -- Auburn, at Georgia, Florida and Tennessee.

And the folks in Nashville have seen this start before. Last season it started out 3-1 only to lose six of the last eight. In 2005, the Commodores did start out 4-0, beating Wake Forest, Arkansas and Mississippi, but then came the tough SEC games and they ended up finishing 5-6.

For now they are No. 42 eyeing the Top 25, but let's see how they do in the middle of the season.

Other big movers:

Minnesota -- 22 spots up -- from No. 82 to No. 60
Middle Tennessee -- 21 spots up -- from No. 111 to No. 90

Big fallers:

-- Maryland dropped 34 spots falling from No. 65 to No. 99 after losing to Middle Tennessee. Maryland might be in for a long season since their only win was a 7-point victory over FCS Delaware.

-- Memphis and Syracuse also fell as both teams dropped to 0-2. Memphis fell 25 spots from No. 68 to No. 93 and Syracuse dropped 20 spots from No. 90 to No. 110.

 

Comments

Since: Sep 8, 2008
Posted on: September 11, 2008 10:05 am
 

CBSSports.com 120 -- Movers and Fallers

how is tennessee sos weaker than florida state having played ucla when fsu played western carolina and if florida state has played a tougher strength of schedule and is 1-0 than tennessee who is 0-1 then how is tennessee ranked ahead of fsu this pole makes no sense at all

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There is one of two reasons for this, which one is correct I'm not sure. 

First possibility is that because Western Carolina is an FCS team (D1AA) so they don't get counted in FSU's SOS calculation.  This would basically cause FSU to be 1-0 while the SOS ranking is basically a clean slate.  In the eyes of the computer that makes the rankings this is better than Tennessee for the following reason.  When the computer calculates SOS, it doesn't just look at your opponent's record, it also looks at the record of your opponent's opponents.  So losing to UCLA puts Tennesse's opponent's record at 1-0, but then the computer takes into account UCLA's opponent's record which is 0-1 since Tennesse is the only team they've played.  As a result it calculates Tennesse's SOS to be very low.

The other less likely reason if Western Carolina's record is being taken into account than they are 1-1 because they're game against FSU was their second game.  But like I said I think the first reason is more likely.




Since: Jun 23, 2008
Posted on: September 11, 2008 7:20 am
 

PSU drops below USF after blowout win?

So Penn State came into Saturday ranked at 19 in this silly poll and South Florida came in at 20. Penn State racks up 500+ yards in a blowout victory vs Oregon State while South Florida barely beats the University of Central Florida (not the University of Florida, the University of CENTRAL Florida) in overtime. After this, South Florida leapfrogs PSU to 19 and Penn State drops one spot to 20. Makes sense. I'd be more angry about this if this poll mattered in any way, shape, or form, but I'm still curious as to what the thought process was here.



Since: Jul 7, 2008
Posted on: September 11, 2008 3:14 am
 

CBSSports.com 120 -- Movers and Fallers

how far will notre dame move up when they beat mihcigan



Since: Sep 10, 2008
Posted on: September 10, 2008 6:39 pm
 

Bad research in this article.

Vanderbilt has beaten top 25 teams in each of the last 3 years!

2008 (24) South Carolina
2007 (6) at South Carolina
2006 (21?) at Georgia

This was the first HOME win over a top 25 team since 1992.  Get the facts straight if you're going to call yourself a journalist.



Since: Sep 10, 2008
Posted on: September 10, 2008 1:23 pm
 

CBSSports.com 120 -- Movers and Fallers

how is tennessee sos weaker than florida state having played ucla when fsu played western carolina and if florida state has played a tougher strength of schedule and is 1-0 than tennessee who is 0-1 then how is tennessee ranked ahead of fsu this pole makes no sense at all




Since: Mar 5, 2008
Posted on: September 10, 2008 12:51 pm
 

CBSSports.com 120 -- Movers and Fallers

The author says:

"Vanderbilt had the biggest jump this week moving up 25 spots from No. 67 to No. 42 after improving to 2-0. It knocked off Miami (Ohio) 34-13 in the first week and then upset South Carolina 24-17, earning its first win over a ranked team in 16 years."

It's actually been less than a year since Vandy beat a ranked team, as we beat then 6th ranked South Carolina last year.  It's the first time we beat a ranked team at home in 16 years. 



Since: Jul 24, 2008
Posted on: September 9, 2008 11:26 pm
 

CBSSports.com 120 -- Movers and Fallers

Attention CBS-That was not Vanderbilt's first win over a ranked team in 16 years.  If all you had done is read the recap of the USC-Vandy game you would've read how Vandy defeated #6 South Carolina last year on the road.  Just for starters...I believe you meant to say it's the first time Vanderbilt has defeated the same SEC opponent in consecutive seasons in 16 years which also was against USC.



Since: Sep 9, 2008
Posted on: September 9, 2008 7:00 pm
 

CBSSports.com 120 -- Movers and Fallers

They play most of their games at home.  Not fair.



Since: Aug 27, 2006
Posted on: September 9, 2008 5:45 pm
 

CBSSports.com 120 -- Movers and Fallers

This just in; we have now been told that the pollsters have become 'savvy', they evaluate teams play each week. So, Ohio St.'s play against less than stellar opposition has allowed them to slide down to the No. 5 position. I can live with that should the pollsters choose to apply that to ALL the teams. Yet, no one has said one peep about No. 11 Alabama's move up this week with their dominating performance of Tulane by a 20-6 margin. In the process, they managed to leap over Texas Tech who had a quality road win over a quality middle-tier conference opponent in Nevada. Maybe the only savvy the pollsters know is how they are going to manage and manipulate this season-long process to get a better national championship game.



Since: Oct 13, 2006
Posted on: September 9, 2008 4:17 pm
 

CBSSports.com 120 -- Movers and Fallers

you mean like how Penn State was dropped in rank after crushing Oregon state


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