Blog Entry 120 -- Free Fallin'

Posted on: October 13, 2008 11:43 am
Edited on: October 13, 2008 12:52 pm

How low can you go?

For a handful of teams ranked in the preseason Top 25 we are about to find out.

Preseason favorites Auburn, Wisconsin, Arizona State and Clemson all find themselves falling down the rankings in the 120 with a possibility that it could get worse before the season is over.

Auburn, which we all had in our preseason Top 25, fell to No. 42 this week after losing its third game in the past four.

The Tigers started the season at 3-0 before losing a close game with LSU. They then squeaked out a 14-12 victory against Tennessee before losing 14-13 to Vanderbilt and 25-22 to Arkansas.

Auburn was expected to be alot better offensively with Kodi Burns seeing time at quarterback and a strong rushing attack with the combination of Ben Tate and Brad Lester.

But Burns and Chris Todd have combined for only 1,101 passing yards, five touchdowns and nine interceptions. Tate has had some good games, but had only 32 yards rushing against Arkansas and 45 yards against LSU.

"Offensively, we just don't have an identity and that's what we have to do this week," coach Tommy Tuberville said as Auburn prepares to face West Virginia on Oct. 23.

Now Auburn is looking at other options at quarterback, including freshman Barrett Trotter and scout-team quarterback Neil Caudle, who has three attempts in his career.

"To burn a redshirt this late, we wouldn't play [Trotter] four or five plays. We'd get him ready to go," Tuberville told the Birmingham News. "If we're going to play him, we're going to play him."

If things don't get better in a hurry, Auburn will continue to fall down the rankings. After facing the Mountaineers in two weeks, Auburn still has to play Mississippi, Georgia and Alabama on the schedule.

Another team that finds itself in the same boat as Auburn is Wisconsin. Many expected the Badgers to compete for the Big Ten title and a possible BCS Bowl, but the Badgers have lost three in a row and dropped down to No. 44.

Things have fallen apart since the Michigan loss, where the Badgers had a 19-0 lead at halftime. They followed that up with a close loss to Ohio State and then getting blown out by Penn State.

P.J. Hill is averaging just 3.6 yards per carry (191 yards on 53 carries) in the losses with just one touchdown, while quarterback Allan Evridge has four interceptions and only two touchdowns over that stretch.

Wisconsin's schedule isn't as tough as Auburn's, but the Badgers still have to face Illinois, Michigan State and Minnesota.

Arizona State dropped the lowest of all the preseason favorites, falling to No. 64 this week after losing its fourth in a row. Nobody expected them to beat Georgia or USC at the beginning of the season, but they got manhandled in both.

Add in the losses to California and UNLV and the Sun Devils are now fighting just to be bowl-eligible. They still have to face Oregon and Oregon State and then UCLA and Arizona to close the season.

ACC favorite Clemson has lost two in a row, but holds steady at No. 47 after putting together a four-game winning streak earlier. Just as it looked like the Tigers were turing things around, they lost to Maryland 20-17 and Wake Forest 12-7. And now they go and fire Tommy Bowden!

Poll Notes

-- The lowest-ranked BCS team is Syracuse at No. 109. It is 1-5 with its only victory coming against Northeastern. The 'Cuse play at South Florida this week.

-- Mississippi State is the highest-ranked team with a losing record, checking in at No. 57 at 2-4. The Bulldogs moved up this week after beating Vanderbilt.

-- The lowest-ranked team with at least four wins is Arkansas State at No. 83. Their strength of schedule is 119th out of 120 schools, beating Texas A&M (No. 89), Middle Tennessee State (No. 102), Louisiana-Monroe (No. 114) and Texas Southern (FCS).


Since: Sep 19, 2006
Posted on: October 15, 2008 2:07 am 120 -- Free Fallin'

I don't know what you guys from the West have been smoking. Trying to argue that the Mountain West is a great conference. Anytime half of your conference loses to teams from a non-bcs league there is a huge problem. While the media may be biased toward the SEC, they are far more biased toward USC. Two weeks ago in a weekend full of upsets, USC, Florida, Wisconsin, etc. al lost. USC was the only team not to drop from the top 10. In 04' Auburn got left out, while USC was let in. USC was given a split national championship by the AP. etc,etc,etc. So instead of telling people not to let their bias get in the way, why don't you guys leave YOUR bias at home. It seems like there is a word for that, o yea there is. They call people like you hypocrites...

Since: Nov 29, 2006
Posted on: October 15, 2008 1:11 am 120 -- Free Fallin'

Yes that is my point. If the Pac-10 plays the toughest OOC schedule and win then why do they only have two teams in the top 25? Auburn is not a bad team just a team with a bad offense. I guarantee that they make a bowl. That isn't saying much but it's still a bowl game. I'm even saying this and I hate Awbarn as much as anyone. i hope they lose every game, but I still am a realist. The SEC champion should play the Big 12 champion in the NC game. They are the 2 best conferences in the nation this season. I will never consider the Pac-10 or the Big-10 an elite conference because they don't play a CG. That is complete BS that USC and Ohio State can pretty much mop up with their conferences and be the conference champion just because they have the best record. When you guys finally get your so-called balls and play a CG I might think differently.

Since: Sep 9, 2008
Posted on: October 14, 2008 11:06 pm 120 -- Free Fallin'


What a classy guy you are.  Go to school before trying to argue anything.

Since: Sep 9, 2008
Posted on: October 14, 2008 11:04 pm 120 -- Free Fallin'


You do realize that the Pac10 has only two teams in the AP25 right?  Cal at 24 and USC at 6, I believe.  How long was Auburn in the polls?  They were there after 2 losses?  Tennessee ranked to begin the season?  If that's not SEC bias I don't know what is.

We have beaten Michigan State, Ohio State, Purdue, and mighty Tennessee.  We may not have been winning these games this year, but last year and in years past we won most of them.  Lots of our losses come because we actually have the balls to schedule games with the MWC, unlike the SEC, who schedules the Sunbelt and D-IAA.

Since: Sep 9, 2008
Posted on: October 14, 2008 10:59 pm 120 -- Free Fallin'

the only reason PAC 10 teams seem to play tougher OOC games is b/c your conference sucks

There it is again, your argument that your OOC games are weak because you play in a "tough" conference.  That is no excuse.

the Mouatin West went 5-0 against the Pac 10 in one week...Pac 10 is baseball and basketball...your football just sucks..get over it.

First off, the "Mountain" West did go 5-0 over the Pac10 in one week, but doesn't everyone notice the fact that in ALL of those games, the MWC team was better then the Pac10 team?  BYU is better then everyone in the Pac10, USC might be a tossup.  TCU is way better then Stanford.  Arizona State has proven to be way overrated.  Washington State loses to everyone.  Arizona losing to New Mexico is the only upset here.  So because the top of the MWC beats the bottom of the Pac10, that makes them better?  I'll bet that West Virginia and UConn would beat Tennessee and Arkansas, would that make the Big East better? NO!

Since: Sep 14, 2008
Posted on: October 14, 2008 10:47 pm 120 -- Free Fallin'


For the record, I almost gave up on this thread when you gave Auburn a compliment in saying they had 2 SEC wins.

They beat a (2-4) Mississippi State team 3-2 and they beat a (2-4) Tennessee team 14-12

This means that they won their two games by a combined 3 points against opponents with a conbined (4-8) record.

Ohh no to mention 3 of their opponents' wins are over UAB, Northern Illinois, and Southeastern Louisiana.

And Mississippi State lost to Louisiana Tech...


Get real and throw away your bias before you try to argue with me.

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Posted on: October 14, 2008 9:49 pm

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Since: Sep 8, 2008
Posted on: October 14, 2008 9:18 pm 120 -- Free Fallin'

CLEMSON, this was supposed to be our year

After being ranked Number 9 by the AP in the pre-season, I was optimistic about the Tigers chances of winning the ACC. I was even optimistic after the first game against Alabama, because as any die-hard Clemson fans knows, Clemson usually only has one heart braking loss every season, but after two heart breakers to Maryland and Wake Forest I knew the high hopes of the season were lost and that Tommy Bowden was under the gun, I did not expect him to be gone, but after disappointing losses like that something needed to change. One big reason why Clemson lost to Maryland and Wake Forest is because Tommy Bowden did not use the plethora of talent available on the roster to pull out wins in each of those games.

Since: Jan 3, 2007
Posted on: October 14, 2008 4:33 pm 120 -- Free Fallin'

Bobthe fa n, I agree with you on Iowtone's vocabulary.  But do you really need to buy into the old cliche that SEC fans are all redneck hillbillies?   That is a very elitist and disproven sentiment.  There are idiots everywhere, even at Oklahoma St. 

Since: Jan 17, 2007
Posted on: October 14, 2008 3:38 pm 120 -- Free Fallin'

lowtone2977: Man you really are well-named.  Do you have enough of a vocabulary to write a post without having to resort to the F-word?  I guess everyone is right, you rednecks from the SEC are really well-educated, upstanding people.

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