Blog Entry 120 -- Free Fallin'

Posted on: October 13, 2008 11:43 am
Edited on: October 13, 2008 12:52 pm

How low can you go?

For a handful of teams ranked in the preseason Top 25 we are about to find out.

Preseason favorites Auburn, Wisconsin, Arizona State and Clemson all find themselves falling down the rankings in the 120 with a possibility that it could get worse before the season is over.

Auburn, which we all had in our preseason Top 25, fell to No. 42 this week after losing its third game in the past four.

The Tigers started the season at 3-0 before losing a close game with LSU. They then squeaked out a 14-12 victory against Tennessee before losing 14-13 to Vanderbilt and 25-22 to Arkansas.

Auburn was expected to be alot better offensively with Kodi Burns seeing time at quarterback and a strong rushing attack with the combination of Ben Tate and Brad Lester.

But Burns and Chris Todd have combined for only 1,101 passing yards, five touchdowns and nine interceptions. Tate has had some good games, but had only 32 yards rushing against Arkansas and 45 yards against LSU.

"Offensively, we just don't have an identity and that's what we have to do this week," coach Tommy Tuberville said as Auburn prepares to face West Virginia on Oct. 23.

Now Auburn is looking at other options at quarterback, including freshman Barrett Trotter and scout-team quarterback Neil Caudle, who has three attempts in his career.

"To burn a redshirt this late, we wouldn't play [Trotter] four or five plays. We'd get him ready to go," Tuberville told the Birmingham News. "If we're going to play him, we're going to play him."

If things don't get better in a hurry, Auburn will continue to fall down the rankings. After facing the Mountaineers in two weeks, Auburn still has to play Mississippi, Georgia and Alabama on the schedule.

Another team that finds itself in the same boat as Auburn is Wisconsin. Many expected the Badgers to compete for the Big Ten title and a possible BCS Bowl, but the Badgers have lost three in a row and dropped down to No. 44.

Things have fallen apart since the Michigan loss, where the Badgers had a 19-0 lead at halftime. They followed that up with a close loss to Ohio State and then getting blown out by Penn State.

P.J. Hill is averaging just 3.6 yards per carry (191 yards on 53 carries) in the losses with just one touchdown, while quarterback Allan Evridge has four interceptions and only two touchdowns over that stretch.

Wisconsin's schedule isn't as tough as Auburn's, but the Badgers still have to face Illinois, Michigan State and Minnesota.

Arizona State dropped the lowest of all the preseason favorites, falling to No. 64 this week after losing its fourth in a row. Nobody expected them to beat Georgia or USC at the beginning of the season, but they got manhandled in both.

Add in the losses to California and UNLV and the Sun Devils are now fighting just to be bowl-eligible. They still have to face Oregon and Oregon State and then UCLA and Arizona to close the season.

ACC favorite Clemson has lost two in a row, but holds steady at No. 47 after putting together a four-game winning streak earlier. Just as it looked like the Tigers were turing things around, they lost to Maryland 20-17 and Wake Forest 12-7. And now they go and fire Tommy Bowden!

Poll Notes

-- The lowest-ranked BCS team is Syracuse at No. 109. It is 1-5 with its only victory coming against Northeastern. The 'Cuse play at South Florida this week.

-- Mississippi State is the highest-ranked team with a losing record, checking in at No. 57 at 2-4. The Bulldogs moved up this week after beating Vanderbilt.

-- The lowest-ranked team with at least four wins is Arkansas State at No. 83. Their strength of schedule is 119th out of 120 schools, beating Texas A&M (No. 89), Middle Tennessee State (No. 102), Louisiana-Monroe (No. 114) and Texas Southern (FCS).


Since: Sep 9, 2008
Posted on: October 13, 2008 7:09 pm 120 -- Free Fallin'

And any sort of comment about the pollsters loving any SEC team holds very little water coming from a USC fan. USC loses to an unranked opponent every year and plays in a garbage conference but is always in the NC race. 

We may lose to conference opponents, but we NEVER lose out of the conference.  (with the exception of Vince Young and Texas)

And also, in almost all of our nonconference games, they are blowouts.  Ohio State?  Illinois?  Michigan?  All blowouts.

Since: Jun 9, 2008
Posted on: October 13, 2008 6:11 pm 120 -- Free Fallin'

Auburn did  not have an easy schedule in 2004... LSU (top 10) Tennesee (top 15 both times they played them) UGA was #4...and All but LSU Auburn it wasnt an easy schedule that year.. As far the SEC not having hard OOC Had:

Alabama vs Clemson

Florida vs Miami and FLorida State

Tennessee vs UCLA

Auburn vs. West Wirginia

UGA vs. Arizona State

LSU vs Troy ( Troy isnt a garbage team even though they play in the Sunbelt)

Ole Mis vs. Wake Forest

Vandy vs. Wake Forest

See not all games are weak OOC games...

Since: Aug 14, 2006
Posted on: October 13, 2008 5:25 pm 120 -- Free Fallin'



Why does the CBS 120 show that Texas Tech's record is 5-1? Do you guys know something the rest of us don't?

It's a prediction for next week

Just kidding, yeah for some strange reason it gave Texas Tech and Nebraska both the loss. We're working on getting it fixed ASAP.

Since: Oct 13, 2008
Posted on: October 13, 2008 5:11 pm 120 -- Free Fallin'

'just wanted to let someone know that in the CBSSports 120, it has Nebraska defeating Texas Tech (and also has their record at 4-2 instead of 3-3).  I couldn't figure out who to contact.  Thanks.  'always enjoy your comments, Darst.

Since: Dec 24, 2006
Posted on: October 13, 2008 4:12 pm
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Since: Sep 14, 2008
Posted on: October 13, 2008 4:02 pm 120 -- Free Fallin'

Anyone trying to make an argument that the polls are not SEC biased cannot win.  It's like a Republican trying to debate the War in Iraq right now, you cannot win. 

The SEC had 6 or 7 teams in the preseason poll, depending on what poll you look at.  That's more than half of the conference and more than 25% of the teams in the poll. 

Here's the big problem with the SEC:

They don't play ANYBODY out of conference.  The biggest out of conference win the SEC has this year is Georgia over a 2-4 Arizona State team.

All the other "Big Time BCS conferences play big games outside of conference play."

  • Ohio State vs. USC
  • Illinois vs. Missouri
  • Oklahoma vs. TCU and OU vs. Cincinnatti (both ranked teams at the time)
  • Kansas vs. South Florida
  • California vs. Michigan State
  • Oregon vs. Boise State

Every one of these games is more impressive than any game the SEC has played out of conference.

Since: Jan 17, 2008
Posted on: October 13, 2008 3:59 pm 120 -- Free Fallin'

Pollsters in love with Auburn? Do you remember when Auburn was 12-0 (before bowl selections) and pollsters left them at #3? Any SEC team undefeated deserves to play in the title game.

Ya know, if I was an Auburn fan, I would probably still be irked about 2004.  But from an outside perspective, Auburn had a pathetically easy non-conference schedule, and as easy an SEC schedule as they come.  Add to it the anti-climax of a SEC title game against a team they had already throttled.  No offense, but the other two undefeated teams looked more impressive against more difficult overall schedules.  If Auburn had played just one non-conference game against a top-25 caliber team, the story would likely have been different.

The fact that Auburn was found to be unworthy disproves your theory about undefeated SEC teams.  That is the apex of arrogance. Generally, any BCS school that runs the table deserves to be in the title game...not just SEC teams.

Since: Aug 10, 2007
Posted on: October 13, 2008 2:52 pm 120 -- Free Fallin'

How short your memory is Fresh La Style do you even remember 2004? And any sort of comment about the pollsters loving any SEC team holds very little water coming from a USC fan. USC loses to an unranked opponent every year and plays in a garbage conference but is always in the NC race.  With that said yes Auburn was way overrated at the beginning of the season but apparently UGA and UF weren't. It's all relative. They, meaning the pollsters, aren't going to be correct in every preseason prediction for a variety of reasons.

Since: Dec 21, 2007
Posted on: October 13, 2008 2:24 pm 120 -- Free Fallin'

Auburn only has a chance at 2 more wins, Middle Tennessee State and West Va.. Not even guarantees!

They also play Ole Miss on the road, Alabama on the road, and UGA at home! It's not looking too good for any kind of a bowl!!!

Since: Aug 29, 2008
Posted on: October 13, 2008 1:59 pm 120 -- Free Fallin'

I agree completely. No polls until Week 5 at the earliest.

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