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Let's Play .... Who plays in the BCS title?

Posted on: November 12, 2008 12:00 pm
Edited on: November 12, 2008 12:12 pm
 

Let's throw some train wreck scenarios out the for the BCS:

Scenario 1 -- Alabama wins out, but Oklahoma beats Texas Tech and then wins the Big 12. Who plays Alabama for the national title? You have to assume Tech is out because they lost late, so the choice is Oklahoma or Texas. Texas won the head-to-head, but will Oklahoma be able to vault the Longhorns based on winning the Big 12?

Scenario 2 -- Texas Tech wins out and they are in the national title game. Florida loses, but comes back to beat Alabama in the SEC title game. Who do the Red Raiders play? Texas in a rematch game? Do the pollsters jump USC up so we don't have a Big 12 vs. Big 12 title game?

Scenario 3 -- Texas Tech beats Oklahoma, but loses in the Big 12 title game, so it has one loss. Florida loses to South Carolina, then comes back to beat Alabama. Who is in? Texas with one loss, the team that lost to Texas Tech? USC?

Scenario 4 -- Florida loses to Florida State, but then comes back and beats Alabama in the SEC title game. Both teams are out. Oklahoma beats Texas Tech. Who plays for the national title? Oklahoma vs. Texas? Oklahoma vs. USC? Texas vs. USC? Let's even throw in that Oregon State won the Pac-10, but USC still only has one loss -- does that change your mind?

Scenario 5 -- Florida loses to FSU, comes back and beats Alabama in the SEC title. Oklahoma beats Texas Tech, but then loses to Missouri in the Big 12 title game. Texas wins out. USC stumbles (take your choice -- UCLA/Stanford/ND). Utah is undefeated. Penn State has one loss. Who you got? Texas, who didn't win its division vs. Utah? Does Penn State jump back up? What about an undefeated Boise State?

Scenario 6 -- Florida loses to FSU, comes back and beats Alabama in the SEC title. Oklahoma beats Texas Tech, but the Sooners lose the Big 12 title game. Texas loses at Kansas. USC loses to Stanford. Penn State loses to Michigan State. Utah and Boise State are both undefeated. Who plays? What if Utah and Boise State both lose? Could we actually have a SEC runner up in Alabama with one loss vs. some random team? Ball State, stand by.

I'd love to hear what you guys think. Any chance we can get to see the BCS explode is always a good thing.

 

 

Comments

Since: Feb 25, 2007
Posted on: November 15, 2008 9:06 pm
 

Let's Play .... Who plays in the BCS title?

>>>If Michigan State beats Penn State, and Ohio State beats Michigan, I think that MSU automatically wins the BCS slot, because they did not play a Div IAA team. <<<

That would have been the case in a three-way tie between MSU,  OSU, and PSU.  In your scenario, Ohio State would get the Rose Bowl by virtue of having beaten MSU head-to-head.  The Big Ten no longer uses the old rule about the team having not been there the longest getting the bid.




Since: Feb 25, 2007
Posted on: November 15, 2008 9:01 pm
 

Let's Play .... Who plays in the BCS title?

>>>Think about what you are saying -- ranked in the top 16 ahead of the Big East? Well, Ball State is there too, so I guess Ball State, Boise and Utah all get in. <<<

Shouldn't the college football columnist know what he's talking about?  Only the top non-BCS conference team, meeting either criteria (either top 12, or top 16 and ahead of a BCS conference champ),  is guaranteed a BCS bid.  The others would be eligible but probably wouldn't get in.

 




Since: Dec 15, 2006
Posted on: November 15, 2008 8:27 pm
 

Let's Play .... Who plays in the BCS title?

Can someone explain how Florida and USC are even in this discussion? They both have terrible losses to unranked teams. Florida's was at home, no less! Good gracious. Everyone needs to get over the problem of having Big 12 v. Big 12 in a title game. Who cares if Tech, Texas or Oklahoma don't win the Big 12. It is very possible that the three best teams in college are not only in the same conference, but in the same division of that conference. Let's say Tech wins out and for sure plays for the title. Let's say Alabama loses somewhere - possibly to Florida. How could Florida, even as the SEC champ, go ahead of Texas. Texas will have played the hardest schedule in the country, with the only loss in the last second to the #1 team. Florida will have lost at home to an unranked team...........




Since: Jan 29, 2008
Posted on: November 15, 2008 8:23 pm
 

why does oklahoma win the big 12?




Since: May 24, 2008
Posted on: November 15, 2008 8:02 pm
 

Let's Play .... Who plays in the BCS title?

If Michigan State beats Penn State, and Ohio State beats Michigan, I think that MSU automatically wins the BCS slot, because they did not play a Div IAA team.

 Also, before the BCS, in the event of a tie, the team that would go to the Rose Bowl  was the team that had been the longest since they were in the Rose Bowl.



Since: Mar 9, 2008
Posted on: November 15, 2008 7:39 pm
 

Let's Play .... Who plays in the BCS title?

2  thoughts to your closing comment. First (although I'm a BIG fan of a playoff), look how much we all enjoy imagining all these scenarios! And even before the BCS came into the picture, remember how much fun we had after January 1 (wow, you mean all bowl games used to be done January 1?!?!) debating who the National Champ should be?

OK, enough about that. Let's have a playoff. The best point I ever heard was that we're a lot better off debating how the #9 and maybe #10 teams didn't get to the playoff rather than talking about the #3 or #4 team that didn't get to play for a Championship.

What would an 8-team bracket look like? Remember, the extra BCS game to create a spot for mid-majors expanded the BCS lineup to 10 teams. Does that mean the mid-majors get shut out? Why limit a Conference to only 2 entries if they have 3 strong teams? The Big 12 has consistently had 3 teams in the Top 10 all season. If we want the 8 best teams: Florida, Alabama, USC, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Texas are shoo-ins. Draw 2 names out of a hat for the remaining two. They'll lose their first-round game anyway. Here's something I've never heard mentioned before: we're still talking about the NCAA. Even IF they ever came up with a playoff, they'd screw it up. Playoff games in D-2 and D-3 are set up regionally. With basketball, they try to avoid teams from the same conference meeting each other too early. We wouldn't get the perfect 1 v 8, 2 v 7 etc., that we'd all be expecting anyways.

I'll close with this. Isn't it amazing how the BCS always seems to work itself out? With the exception of just a couple of years, we always seem to end up with a fairly clear-cut #1 vs #2. And I think that will happen again this season. The Big 12 South Champ will win the Big 12 Title Game and they'll play the SEC Champ. Since everyone seems to be going against Alabama and Texas Tech, I think I'll root for them both to win out. Great stories: Saban goes for another National Title at another school vs Leach and the TTech Air Show.



Since: Aug 14, 2006
Posted on: November 15, 2008 7:36 pm
 

Let's Play .... Who plays in the BCS title?

How in the HELL could you possibly put Oklahoma in the BCS Title game much less the Big 12 Title game if they beat Tech? Have you forgot Texas beat OU in Dallas 45 -35. Duh No-Brainer Texas vs Florida national title game. Texas 45 - Florida 42.

Yeah, because the voters always take into a count who beat who earlier in the year. New to college football?

Oklahoma is ahead of Texas right now in the Coaches poll, which is 1/3 of the formula for the BCS.

Remember when FSU played Oklahoma in the Orange Bowl for the national title in 2000? FSU had 1 loss, so did Miami and Miami beat the Seminoles -- it means nothing in the world of college football. One of the many things wrong with this sport.

 




Since: Nov 13, 2006
Posted on: November 15, 2008 7:06 pm
 

Let's Play .... Who plays in the BCS title?

SEC winner  vs. Oklahoma. How?  Oklahoma wins out and that will push them ahead of Texas in the BCS. I realize that the horns beat Oklahoma but Texas lost later in the season and that sometimes determines a lot. If Oklahoma beats Texas Tech, Oklahoma State and then the north champion, they will be ranked higher than Texas.



Since: Aug 20, 2006
Posted on: November 15, 2008 7:01 pm
 

Let's Play .... Who plays in the BCS title?

Any chance we can get to see the BCS explode is always a good thing.

What?  Really?  So we can have an illegitimate champion like last year?  Why wouldn't we just hope Tech wins out, Bama and Florida don't stumble and we see a Tech-SEC champ title game?  Last year, the BCS exploded, but most every other year it has worked.  Yes, Auburn got screwed, and the Big 12 teams that made the title game without winning the conference were jokes.  But the years that happened, the team that won the title would have beaten anyone put in the title game (a la Miami 2001.)  Regardless of the flaws in the BCS, it is still MUCH better than what we had before its inception.

How in the HELL could you possibly put Oklahoma in the BCS Title game much less the Big 12 Title game if they beat Tech? Have you forgot Texas beat OU in Dallas 45 -35. Duh

Because if OU beats Texas Tech and Oklahoma State, they, along with Tech and Texas would all have one loss against each other with 1-1 records against each other...  Thus, the highest ranked BCS team would get the Big 12 title nod - which if Oklahoma wins those two games, it is likely that it will be them.



Since: Nov 15, 2008
Posted on: November 15, 2008 6:38 pm
 

Let's Play .... Who plays in the BCS title?

How in the HELL could you possibly put Oklahoma in the BCS Title game much less the Big 12 Title game if they beat Tech? Have you forgot Texas beat OU in Dallas 45 -35. Duh No-Brainer Texas vs Florida national title game. Texas 45 - Florida 42.


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