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Big East, C-USA: Now what?

Posted on: April 23, 2010 2:06 pm
Edited on: April 23, 2010 4:51 pm
 

Future of College Football Graphic: Five Super Conferences

The biggest question in all this expansion talk is what is going to happen to the Big East?

If the Big Ten pulls in Connecticut, Rutgers and Pittsburgh for the Big East, the conference will be down to five teams and on life support to survive. As Dennis Dodd points out, Cincinnati, Syracuse, West Virginia and Louisville would do their best to look elsewhere and most likely join the ACC.

Links

Dodd: Part IV: Variables could spawn revolution

Dodd: Part III: Texas would cause domino effect

Dodd: Part II: A look at the Big Ten Network

Dodd: Part I: The sport will never be the same

That means the Big East basically has two options.

No. 1: Fold. Allow the lone member South Florida to go somewhere else, mostly likely to Conference USA.

No. 2: Scrape together the best teams from Conference USA and the Sun Belt to keep the Big East together.

In scenario No. 1, the Big East would realize that no matter what teams it tries to pull over, it just will never be a major player in the college football/BCS world. So just close up shop and let South Florida to go wherever it could.

With C-USA losing SMU, Houston, Tulsa, UTEP and Tulane, that means it will need to replenish to keep 12 teams and its conference title game. Currently it uses two division -- East and West -- but it's time to change to North and South.

Army and Navy might end up staying as Independents, but why? Join a conference. Now that Notre Dame is gone it's time to do away with the Independents.

New Conference USA
North South
Army Florida Atlantic
East Carolina Florida International
Marshall Southern Miss
Memphis South Florida
Navy UCF
Rice UAB
New teams in bold

Things are a little bit more tricky in the South. Who would C-USA want and why?

Well, South Florida would be an automatic, so it really only needs two teams. Forget adding anybody from the MAC and WAC, so the only choices left are from the Sun Belt.

Florida International in Miami would be high on the list, if for nothing else, because of its location. The school is located in a Top 20 television market, has more than 40,000 students, and the school is doing its best to improve the football program (it just upgraded the stadium).

By taking FIU, that makes Florida Atlantic 60 miles north in Palm Beach County a perfect fit for a travel partner in other sports. The Owls also are building a new stadium.

I'm not sure the other schools would be attractive enough for C-USA to invite. Even though Troy has had the most success football wise, it has a major downside of being in a city of less than 15,000 people.

Louisiana-Lafayette does offer the conference a chance to get back int the state of Louisiana and the city is one of the largest of all the Sun Belt schools, but FAU and FIU are more attractive on a broader scale.

Now let's talk about scenario No. 2:

The Big East decides it can stay together by pulling some of the larger teams from Conference USA and Sun Belt. So here is what an eight-team conference would look like.

New Big East New C-USA/Sun Belt
South Florida Marshall
East Carolina UAB
UCF Rice
Memphis Southern Miss
Florida Atlantic Troy
Florida International Middle Tennessee
Navy La.-Monroe
Army La.-Lafayette
  Arkansas State
  North Texas
  Western Kentucky
  Georgia State (future)

Again, not much to work with, but the conference does get Memphis, UCF, East Carolina, the two Florida schools (FAU and FIU) and two military academies (Army and Navy). Is it strong enough to pull an automatic BCS bid? Doubtful.

Plus this creates another problem. Does the Big East invite all these schools to play basketball? No offense, but adding Florida International and its 5,000-seat gym, to play basketball and hosting games against Georgetown isn't very inticing. This would have to be a football-move only.

As for Conference USA and the Sun Belt, they would have no choice but to join forces. Conference USA would be left with only four schools, while the Sun Belt has seven. It would need one more school to get back to 12 and preserve a conference title game.

It's far-fetched and definitely something down the road, but Georgia State starts football in FCS (I-AA) this season and would be a perfect fit as the 12th school.

Located in downtown Atlanta with more than 30,000 students, the Panthers would be a nice addition to the C-USA/Sun Belt Conference.

Comments

Since: Jan 16, 2010
Posted on: May 16, 2010 5:21 pm
 

Big East, C-USA: Now what?

Now you know how the ECU Pirates felt after you jacked our coach. Welcome back to the minors Skip.



Since: Oct 3, 2006
Posted on: May 12, 2010 1:35 pm
 

Big East, C-USA: Now what?

Apparently, the Big East is tired  of being the prey and is in the process of becoming the predator by taking Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan State, and Michigan from the Big Ten.

LOL .... Thats like leaving your mansion for a trialer park



Since: Nov 6, 2006
Posted on: May 4, 2010 10:34 pm
 

Big East, C-USA: Now what?

Sorry, but ... no... Rutgers does not bring the New York City market...  people in NYC do not watch Rutgers hardly at all... SU or UConn has larger followings in NYC... (SU easilly)...    Rutgers has never won a BE title in Basketball or Football... having one of the highest losing percentages in both sports of any school in history... 

Big Ten would be better served to take Nebraska, or SU, for example as they offer better and more balanced profiles...

Rutgers sometimes cannot sell out its small football stadium and they have like 10 million people in a 1 hour drive radius...  that speaks volumes of NYC's 'interest' in RU.




Since: Nov 6, 2006
Posted on: May 4, 2010 10:19 pm
 

Laughable

The main reason for the expansion of the Big Ten is to gain in value... not dilute it.....   there is almost a zero percent chance Big 10 takes Uconn, Rutgers & Pitt; especially considering you assume any of those three would be over SU.

Rutgers historically has been a joke athletically...  never won a BE conference title in either basketball or football.  Their sole consideration is location... of which one could make a case for UConn or SU... especially considering SU's athletics in general and traditions kill Rutgers.

Look for the Big 10 to go for ND or Texas... if not them... then probably: Neb or Mizz... possibly an SU or one BE team...  personally, they can have Rutgers...

As for Pitt... a good school, but they offer nothing to the Big Ten... they already have the TV's in the state... called Penn State... so they are out...




Since: Apr 29, 2010
Posted on: April 29, 2010 5:33 pm
 

Big East, C-USA: Now what?

Whether it be Conference USA or the BIG EAST, we coming hard and fast.....Get ready for our arrival on 9.11.10 vs Rutgers !!!







Since: Feb 14, 2008
Posted on: April 28, 2010 4:11 pm
 

Big East, C-USA: Now what?

The Big East needs to give Notre Dame the Sun and the moon to add them to the fold. Let the Irish have their own home football network that is a carbon of their present network contract. Sure it is a faustian pact. You know what with that in effect, at push to have at least one or two Big East team opponents be on TV in the national NBC game.

Prepare for the departure of any or all Syracuse, Rutgers, and UCONN (or Pitt-West Virginia) to the Biger Ten. Add Army, Navy, Memphis, and push Villanova-UMASS to move up to the BCS level. If additional teams are needed to make a 12 team football  Look at Delaware and Richmond Or Consider Central Florida-Florida Atlantic. The additional championship game is a marquee game.

By making a Faustian pact with Notre Dame, the Conference will gain a national audience.  The conference keeps a BCS designation, and Notre Dame still has a boatload of its own money.



Since: Jun 19, 2009
Posted on: April 27, 2010 2:43 pm
 

Big East, C-USA: Now what?

Here is my response to that:


BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
A big ten school would love to give up academic quaility, name recognition, and a boatload of money to join the Big East.  That sounds completely logical.  The big east market is shit compared to the big ten, i suggest you start living in the real world.



Since: Oct 28, 2008
Posted on: April 27, 2010 8:41 am
 

Big East, C-USA: Now what?

Lol boy you must be smokeing smoething good to believe that bunch of grap. The Big East is one of the top  conferences in sports. I n Basketball they always place 8 or 9 teams in the NCAA Tourney. More then any of these other power conferences. In foot ball they are very competive against these so called power conferences. Just ask Geogia who whip there butts in the Sugar bowl and Oh don't mention the Feista Bowl to Oklahoma and what happen to that powerful football team and Sam Brafford. Yeah it looked like Oklahoma was a High school team playing that game. Oh I beleive the Big East will be around a very long time and may even lure Penn State out of the Big Ten to play in the Big East. The Big East is here to stay!



Since: Feb 11, 2010
Posted on: April 27, 2010 5:12 am
 

Big East, C-USA: Now what?

get real whats up with all this nonsence ?

what the big-e needs to do is bring up and merger with the COLONIAL in the underserved northeast and mid atlantic !

no need to go to the south, thats the most retarded thing ive ever heard of !

the BIG-E could survive in the northeast in virgin d-1 territory like MAINE , NEW HAMPSHIRE, RHODE ISLAND, UMASS, BUFFALO, VILLANOVA, TOWSON, DELAWARE, OLD DOMINION, WILLIAM AND MARY, RICHMOND, JAMES MADISON, add in there the left over BIG-E, SYRACUSE, PITTSBURGH, WEST VIRGINIA, and CINCINNATI !

this will last forever, because the BIG-X, ACC, and the SEC have already picked all the best fruit !




Since: Jan 17, 2007
Posted on: April 27, 2010 4:23 am
 

Big East, C-USA: Now what?

Anacott: I love your Betamax reference!  It's perfect, but it does tell me you aren't a recent college grad, since Betamax bit the dust about 25 years ago!!  Anyone under 30 has NO idea what you're talking about!


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