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Favre Retires. Saves Self Embarrassment, Legacy

Posted on: March 4, 2008 5:07 pm
 
I've never bought into that "tarnishing his legacy" thing. When Jordan was on the Wizards it didn't take anything away from what he did with Chicago, and I loved the fact that I would get to watch him for a couple more seasons. I certainly did not want Favre to retire because I do think he's better than Aaron Rodgers. Not to mention he's probably Wisconsin's greatest athlete of all time (between him and Hank Aaron)

That being said if Favre would've returned this season he would've struggled. His career dropped off a cliff 2004. In the three seasons since then he has been a below average NFL QB. His average season since 2005 was: 357 completions, 585 attempts, 3974 yards, 22 touchdowns, 21 interceptions, and a 79.06 quarterback rating. Considering he threw more passes than any other QB over the last three years it artificially inflated his touchdown and yardage total, but I always felt the most accurate measure when judging a QB is by using the QB rating and Favre's 79.1 QB rating over the past three seasons is lower than the league average (including backups). His QB rating in Green Bay's four losses last season was 57.4

Last season there were people saying he was back, and he even earned an MVP vote. Neither could've been more wrong. His stats were a mirage and that MVP vote was a joke. Yeah he started out the season playing very well (what I called a fluke) but his production again fell off steeply in the final seven weeks of the season. He had a 82.1 QB rating in that stretch and averaged 173 yards per game with 11 TDs and 9 INTs. You can usually tell how a player will do next season by seeing how they did in at the end of last season. If this were to hold true for Favre (which I believe it would have), he would've struggled next year and ended his career on a sour note. But because Favre decided to hang it up this year he will be remembered for his great final season and leaving the game on top the way his Super Bowl 32 counterpart John Elway did. And look how overrated Elway is now because of it. Favre won't have to go through the scrutiny that Jordan and so many other athletes did for "hanging on too long" (which by the way is a bunch of BS, but perception is reality)
Category: NFL
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Since: May 22, 2007
Posted on: March 6, 2008 4:54 pm
 

Favre Retires. Saves Self Embarrassment, Legacy

It was like  watching  my boy grow up....



Since: Aug 19, 2006
Posted on: March 4, 2008 9:10 pm
 

Favre Retires. Saves Self Embarrassment, Legacy

Kampman's been pretty damn good over the last three seasons and is 28 years old. Not even comparable


Also I never said Favre should retire. I wish he would've stayed, believe me I wish he would've came back for one more year



Since: Aug 25, 2006
Posted on: March 4, 2008 8:57 pm
 

Favre Retires. Saves Self Embarrassment, Legacy

Winter time at Lambeau.  It's a long season no doubt he didn't have as much in the tank as he did in the beginning of the season.  The defense also got significantly worse the last seven games of the season.  They shouldn't get a free pass as well,  by stat standards maybe Kampman should retire too.




Since: Aug 19, 2006
Posted on: March 4, 2008 8:01 pm
 

Favre Retires. Saves Self Embarrassment, Legacy

Stick, I can kind of see the argument that Grant's emergence caused Favre's yards and touchdowns to go down in his last seven games (don't agree). But why would his YPA and QB rating go down and his INTs go up? if anything a good running game should help those stats



Since: Feb 6, 2007
Posted on: March 4, 2008 7:51 pm
 

Favre Retires. Saves Self Embarrassment, Legacy

Congrats to Brett Favre!  You have nothing to prove to anyone, after seventeen years as one of the leagues ambassador's of the game.  Thanks for the great moments that you have enriched in the sports community.



Since: Aug 25, 2006
Posted on: March 4, 2008 7:35 pm
 

Favre Retires. Saves Self Embarrassment, Legacy

ARE YOU KIDDING ME FERRARI????

Favre carried the offense on his shoulders for the better part of a season.  The only reason his passing stats declined was because of the emergence of Ryan Grant in the offense.  Sure the guy didn't have the scrambling ability of a 28 year old but his arm was as good as any in the league.  For anyone to say that Farve didn't deserve a bit of consideration for the MVP is ludicris.  Stats are only as good as the paper their printed on.  Brett Favre won games and he could continue to win games if he didn't retire. 

 




Since: Jun 28, 2007
Posted on: March 4, 2008 6:44 pm
 

Favre Retires. Saves Self Embarrassment, Legacy

Nice blog.  It's strange for me to see a pack fan realisticly talk about Favre.  I'll miss him and I wish he would continue playing.  I also think it is garbage the way great athletes are pretty much shamed for "hangin on too long."




Since: Aug 19, 2006
Posted on: March 4, 2008 6:41 pm
 

Favre Retires. Saves Self Embarrassment, Legacy

I meant to say his career fell off a cliff after 2004. The team was killed with injuries, very true. However there is no excuse for throwing nine more INTs than TDs in a season, I don't care who your teammates are. It probably affected his stats a little, but not enough for me to believe it was the main reason he struggled so much. I do not buy the injuries argument, though I do respect your opinion



Since: Feb 7, 2007
Posted on: March 4, 2008 6:35 pm
 

Favre Retires. Saves Self Embarrassment, Legacy

Perhaps Favre's greatest accomplishments are his records. It's hard to get a point across if you don't have stats to back it up, but just watching him play at the end of last season you could tell he was nowhere near an elite quarterback in this league anymore. That was my opinion of it
You could tell his fatigue was kicking in for sure at the end of the year. I just feel that stats don't tell enough about the career of Brett Favre.



Since: Oct 23, 2006
Posted on: March 4, 2008 6:25 pm
 

Favre Retires. Saves Self Embarrassment, Legacy

That being said if Favre would've returned this season he would've struggled. His career dropped off a cliff 2004.

I respectfully disagree.  The Packers under Favre led the league in wins for the combined 10 or 11 seasons throguh 2004.  The team effectively went through a rebuilding process with one losing season because of Favre.  His 29 interception year (2005) was the result of this rebuilding coupled with horrendous injuries to nearly every position on offense.  I forget the exact list, but I believe the Packers were missing their #1 WR, #3 WR, #1 TE, #1 RB, #2 RB, #3 RB, #4 RB, #1C and they were breaking in 2 rookie offensive linemen.  I think this may have skewed his stats a little. 

2004 - 30 Td - 17 Int

2005 - 20 Td - 29 Int

2006 - 18 Td - 18 Int

2007 - 28 Td - 15 Int. 

This looks much more like a two year rebuilding issue than it does falling off a cliff.  Plus the "cliff" came in 2005 (injury season) not 2004.



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