powered by Google  
  Track your favorite teams and players.
Free membership, Register Now
Already a member, Log In
 

Alpha Blog: Wagering Turner will out-perform L.T. Sports News
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Home   Fantasy     NFL  |  MLB  |  NBA  |  NHL  |  College FB  |  College BK  |  Golf  |  More CBS College | MaxPreps | Mobile | Shop  
Community Home | My Profile | My Blog | Groups | My Settings | My Account | Member Search | Blog Search | About Community

Eric Kay

Kay's Korner  RSS - Kay's Korner

Name: Eric Kay | Gender: M | Member Since March 9, 2007
Current Level: Superstar | Email: ekay@cbs.com
Favorite
Teams
Blog Home

Alpha Blog: Wagering Turner will out-perform L.T.

Posted on: August 26, 2008 2:11 pm
Edited on: August 26, 2008 4:19 pm
Score: 93
 

Right around this time of the year, I get a crazy notion stuck in my head. It usually results in an ill-advised wager.

L.T.Last year, my crazy notion that the Texans would finish with a better record than the Colts led to a wager with one of our editors, Brian Stubits. In my defense, I figured Peyton was due for an injury year. Looks like I was a season off.

This season, my crazy notion involves running backs. I placed a wager with a buddy of mine, a Toledo-area lawyer, regarding the upcoming seasons of LaDainian Tomlinson and Michael Turner.

Being the bold blogger I am, I floated him the idea Michael Turner would have a better season (I'll share the stats we're following shortly) than LaDainian Tomlinson. Here's the logic, as disturbing as it may be.

I'm not buying the Chargers as a team. I don't believe in Philip Rivers' health and decision making. I don't believe in Chris Chambers' drive and I'm not convinced Antonio Gates is 100 percent. Also, I find Norv Turner incapable of putting together back-to-back double-digit win seasons. Of course, these beliefs, while not self-evident, don't necessitate any statistical decline in Tomlinson.

But maybe this does...

L.T. has 2,356 carries to his name and 458 receptions. If you'll agree with me Marshall Faulk is a similar player in style to Tomlinson, Marshall Faulkcheck out what happened after Faulk hit 2,300 carries. Faulk entered the 2003 season with 2,367 carries. He left that season with 818 rushing yards, 290 receiving yards and 11 total touchdowns. Faulk was 30 that year. Tomlinson is 29. There's no denying Faulk's erosion began a year earlier when he failed to top 1,000 yards, but running backs not named Curtis Martin tend to fall from grace rather quickly.  It's also not like Faulk was in an inept offense. The Rams were 12-4 that season under the guidance of Marc Bulger and Mike Martz.

So I'm banking L.T.'s wheels have a little wear and tear. But what about Michael Turner? What can we realistically expect from him in his first year as a non-handcuff? He's going to anchor an Atlanta backfield with Jerious Norwood that's going to function similar to Jacksonville with Fred Taylor and Maurice Jones-Drew. So 1,200-1,350 yards isn't out of the question. Fred Taylor, who Turner compares better to physically, racked up 1,202 in 15 games last season splitting carries with MJD.

However I think Turner's game lines up more with Jamal Lewis. They both weigh about the same, and catch the ball adequately, at best. Lewis averaged exactly 1,300 yards playing in pass-deficient Baltimore for six seasons.

Michael TurnerAtlanta, with a questionable quarterback situation is going to lean heavily on the run. I also think Atlanta, no matter how bad it's losing, won't be the type of team that airs it out in futile comeback attempts ala Arizona or Detroit of the past 10 years. Mike Smith is building something here and I'm not sure he's concerned with having his young QB throw the ball 40 times a game. Expect to see the ball still being handed off in the fourth quarter of Atlanta games.

I'm also not sold on the offensive genius of Mike Mularkey, but he has proven to harvest 1,000-yard rushers (Willis McGahee, Ronnie Brown, Jerome Bettis...).

So here's the wager. I need to win two of the three following categories: rushing yards, total touchdowns and 100-yard games.

I think I can take rushing yards and 100-yard games. Turner's proven to be explosive, despite his girth and I believe the Falcons are committed to running for four quarters. He won't win the total touchdowns battle since his team's offense isn't as well-oiled (even with San Diego's question marks) and he'll be lucky to record one receiving touchdown.

The wager is a bottle of 12-year-or-older Scotch to be purchased by the loser and delivered to the winner. I may be an ill-advised gambler, but when those are the stakes, there are no losers.


On to the best blogs ... around

Odds are you may not have known who Craig Robinson was before last night's DNC speech. Now you do, as evident by Google Trends, Parrish: The Thoughts reports.

Carnage's Long, Boring Reviews and Rants is upset at the web, and us, for lack of in-depth content. Note to my managing editor, scrap the spread on Nick Barnett's car.

It's a season to forget for Detroit Tigers fans. But a fellow by the name of Placido Polanco has Benyo's Basement excited.

Despite beefing up the interior of the defense and coming off a 10-win season, The Thoughts of a Gentleman is skeptical about this upcoming season for the Browns, at least, defensively speaking.


Klick of the Day

 

The 1986 draft strikes again. Kevin Duckworth is the third player selected in that draft to die. The other two? Len Bias and Drazen Petrovic

momluvsfootball
Reputation: 98
Level: Superstar
Since: Sep 9, 2006
Posted on: August 26, 2008 2:45 pm
Score: 93
 

Alpha Blog: Wagering Turner will out-perform L.T.

I think you actually made a good bet this year. I believe Turners numbers will be better then L.T.s myself, basically because the Chargers offense is an established offense, the Falcons on the other hand, have the advantage of being pretty well ... unknown ... until about mid season, where there will be enough film available with Ryan as QB.  I'm guessing Turner will have about 150 yds more then L.T.

Then again...I've been wrong before and have learned never to make bets because I usually lose them. 



TheSlackers
Reputation: 95
Level: Superstar
Since: Jan 10, 2007
Posted on: August 26, 2008 3:03 pm
Score: 93
 

Alpha Blog: Wagering Turner will out-perform L.T.

You know, I'm a huge LT fan.  I've had him in at least one fantasy league since he broke onto the scene.  I think he is one of the best backs I personally have ever seen play.  There is no dening his talents, abilities, and accomplishments.  That said, I think this is the year his production takes a serious decline. 

Last night I watched the MNF game between the Chargers and the Seahawks.  Elated to no end that Tony Kornhole had the evening off, I was able to watch the game in peace without having to cringe from the normal crap that usually comes out his blowhole.  Some things I noted from the game were that Rivers likes Chambers (as a target) and Rivers is a big fat liar when it comes to his actual health.   Oh and I think by mid season the Browns will be wishing the kept the Frye guy just one more season but that's a story all in it's own.

Rivers favored his hurt knee a lot during the game.  Maybe it didn't affect his passing too much but you could tell he didn't have much confidence in it the way he would get off it quickly.  One good pass rush and hit on that side and he will be gone for the season.  I don't buy for a second that he will stay healthy all year.  Not after what I saw last night.  If I can see it other teams can see it to.  The chargers are going to some heavy blitzing this season.  Everybody should go after him this season.  If/when Rivers goes out with injury this season you can bet your bottom dollar or Scotch in this case that opposing D's will put 8 in the box and make the backup QB beat them.  Not good for LT.

The other thing I think is worthy of noting is that big boy pro bowler snow plow Lorenzo Neal is no longer clearing the way for LT.  Tomlinson will miss him.  I'm sure of it.  Same way Larry Johnson missed having Tony Richardson clear a path for him.  Sure the FB doesn't make or break the RB but they sure to make a difference.  That initial block the FB makes can be the difference between a no gainer and break one off type run. 

I agree whole heartedly with everything you said here.  I just wanted to add that Rivers knee is not anywhere near where he says it is and will become a liabilty for the Chargers.  I also wanted to point out that while Neal leaving the Chargers didn't exactly edge out Brett Favre for most covered news story, it will impact the numbers from the Chargers backfield.  I think your safe in the 100 yard game arena.  When Turner breaks em off, he does it in a big way.  He had what 4 carries for 114 or something like that in the second pre-season game?  Hell you could take all three.  There are arguments for all of them.

If it's any consolation, I would have taken that bet about the Texans as well.  Course I'm a Texans homer and I'd probably take any bet with regards to my Texans, ill-advised as they may be.  Good luck in your bet this year, let us know it turns out for you. 



Eric Kay
Reputation: 99
Level: Superstar
Since: Mar 9, 2007
Posted on: August 26, 2008 3:09 pm
Score: 92
 

Alpha Blog: Wagering Turner will out-perform L.T.

The point about the fullback can't be stressed enough. Lorenzo Neal and Tony Richardson are the two most underappreciated players in football of the 2000s.



TheSlackers
Reputation: 95
Level: Superstar
Since: Jan 10, 2007
Posted on: August 26, 2008 3:22 pm
Score: 92
 

Alpha Blog: Wagering Turner will out-perform L.T.

The point about the fullback can't be stressed enough. Lorenzo Neal and Tony Richardson are the two most underappreciated players in football of the 2000s.

Too true... Is it no surprise that after leaving Kansas City he cleared the way for Adrian Peterson, no doubt contributing to Petersons Rookie of the Year award.  He's in New York now, paving the way for Thomas Jones. 

I'm interested to see the production this year from the Jones of the Jets and McGahee/Rice for Baltimore, Neal's new home.  Also paying attention to the stats of thier former backs LT and Peterson.

I'm getting off point though.  I think you got a good bet here Kay.



EliteM(SD)
Reputation: 89
Level: All-Star
Since: Nov 13, 2006
Posted on: August 26, 2008 4:09 pm
Score: 81
 

Alpha Blog: Wagering Turner will out-perform L.T.

Eric, i like that bet. In fact if you are right i will buy you a bottle of 12 year old Scotch. I have drafter Turner (my number one is Steven Jackson) kinda high as my second back in my yearly attempt to take the crown of my highly intense and sometimes insane fantasy league. So i will be rooting for you all season!!!



dookisevil
Reputation: 99
Level: Superstar
Since: Jan 26, 2007
Posted on: August 26, 2008 4:51 pm
Score: 91
 

Alpha Blog: Wagering Turner will out-perform L.T.

Sounds like a solid bet.

I am in several leagues (blog to come about being overwhelmed in fantasy LOL) taken part in three live drafts thus far and LT has been the top pick in every draft. I was not lucky enough to acquire LT, in any of these leagues, and doubt that the other 4 or 5 leagues I am in that I will get him, here's to him having a sub-par season. I am pulling for you, I certainly hope you didn't go for the porn stache again, I seem to prefer the beard myself!



ScaredHitless
Reputation: 90
Level: All-Star
Since: Feb 15, 2008
Posted on: August 26, 2008 7:28 pm
Score: 91
 

Alpha Blog: Wagering Turner will out-perform L.T.

Great bet.  Totally agree that LT has to come back to earth at some point and why not this year.  Football tells us many things but one is that most teams don't keep a real high level of success for more then three years at a time.  Turner has the ability but I'm dubious about the ATL offensive line. 

As far as the scotch, 18 yr old Glenlivit is incredably smooth.  Never could buy a bottle of it but have had it many times at the bar.  Have a 15 yr Glen right now.  Life is good not matter what happens. 



mike gaudi
Reputation: 99
Level: Superstar
Since: Nov 17, 2007
Posted on: August 27, 2008 1:56 am
Score: 91
 

Alpha Blog: Wagering Turner will out-perform L.T.

You are all nuts....totally crazy. Turner did well in a rested non stressful situation running behind the best line in the game. The Falcons are horrible and will put a ton of pressure on Turner to perform.....he'll be a serviceable back, but no LT. Not even in the same ballpark.



dookisevil
Reputation: 99
Level: Superstar
Since: Jan 26, 2007
Posted on: August 27, 2008 4:13 pm
Score: 91
 

Alpha Blog: Wagering Turner will out-perform L.T.

Sounds like a solid bet.

I am in several leagues (blog to come about being overwhelmed in fantasy LOL) taken part in three live drafts thus far and LT has been the top pick in every draft. I was not lucky enough to acquire LT, in any of these leagues, and doubt that the other 4 or 5 leagues I am in that I will get him, here's to him having a sub-par season. I am pulling for you, I certainly hope you didn't go for the porn stache again, I seem to prefer the beard myself!


dang it as I wrote this, you were probably assigning picks in my next league to draft and who gets the first pick? ME now, I will most likely not pull a surprise pick...I will be part of the consensus and take LT...



EliteM(SD)
Reputation: 89
Level: All-Star
Since: Nov 13, 2006
Posted on: September 11, 2008 8:14 pm
Score: 83
 

Alpha Blog: Wagering Turner will out-perform L.T.

Wow Michael Turner tore it up. I bet your stoked. I will be following this all season!!!



About Kay's Korner
If you're here, you don't listen to Jimmy, you hear Jimmy. Also, if you're here, you probably like to read about the Mid-American Conference.
Recent Blog Entries
Kay's Korner
CBS Sports Blogs

Kay's Korner's Tags
Eric Kay's Favorites
Dantheman4250's Tournament Take
Power 27: Why Purdue is #1, Syracuse is #2
0

December 1, 2009 12:01 am
Backhand shots
Add insult to injury
11

November 30, 2009 11:00 pm
Parrish: The Thoughts
The Poll Attacks
4

November 30, 2009 10:05 pm
FreeStyle
Bobby Bowden
26

November 30, 2009 9:30 pm
Blogg Doyel
Those Sizemore pics were stolen? Suuure they were
5

November 30, 2009 8:35 pm
Dodds and Ends
Goodbye, Saint Bobby. You deserved better.
28

November 30, 2009 8:33 pm
BergerSphere
Vandeweghe to coach Nets (UPDATE)
6

November 30, 2009 7:13 pm
Steve Elling's Short Game
Tiger was whisked away in a blink
0

November 30, 2009 5:38 pm
4th and long
CBSSports.com 120 -- Solich guiding Ohio
5

November 30, 2009 4:54 pm
Prisco's Points
Monday Musings: Time to shut Eli down?
3

November 30, 2009 12:32 pm
Shulaces
Photo Caption Contest: Hitting driver...
35

November 30, 2009 12:19 pm
Hey Everyone.. Come see how good I look!
The People's Poll: Week 3
3

November 30, 2009 11:49 am
Rang's Review
LSU wins game, but loses LaFell?
0

November 28, 2009 11:12 pm
The Eye of the HurricaneDij
HurricaneDij's NBA Power Rankings (11/28/09)
0

November 28, 2009 5:03 pm
Scott Miller's Bull Pennings
Thanksgiving
11

November 25, 2009 1:56 pm
A sub-monthly conglomeration of rhetoric
The case for starting Tarvaris Jackson
0

November 25, 2009 3:33 am
The Knobler Blog
A tough vote -- no, really
18

November 24, 2009 2:01 pm
MMA fight blog
UFC 106 live results: Ortiz vs. Griffin
8

November 22, 2009 12:12 am
The Thoughts of a Gentledawg
Charlie Casserly Interested in Browns
0

November 21, 2009 1:50 pm
THE FANTASY LIFE
Bengals RB coach Jim Anderson talks L.J.
0

November 18, 2009 9:03 pm
Punt, pass and Judge
Childress to get new deal "soon"
23

November 18, 2009 2:32 pm
The Front Row with Grant Paulsen
Redskins 27, Broncos 17
0

November 15, 2009 7:18 pm
I White; You Read
Early mock draft results
0

November 12, 2009 11:49 pm
In Love with the Game, Mom's View
Turn Signals Optional
5

November 12, 2009 4:07 am
The Fantasy Product Blog
Preview Page Questions
19

November 6, 2009 1:04 pm
Eisenblog
Week 7 action
0

October 24, 2009 12:18 am
The Blog about Nothing
Winners, Losers, and Lucky SOBs
0

September 27, 2009 10:09 pm
The Daily Sports Blog
Your new home for a daily sports fix
0

August 20, 2009 3:18 pm
Matt Abedi's Sporting Universe
Shaping the 2010 Roster for the Oakland Athletics
4

August 12, 2009 3:06 am
Stu on This
Thoughts on the Yankees/Red Sox Rivalry
0

August 9, 2009 10:41 am
Blogs from Bromberg
Cycling in the United States
2

August 2, 2009 9:39 am
GoodStella
Hello, Hello, Hello, is there anybody in there?
0

July 21, 2009 2:57 pm
No Joy in Mudville
Rock N' Jock HR Derby
1

July 15, 2009 11:30 am
NBA Draft Big Board
NBA Draft Prospect: PG Curtis Jerrels, Baylor
0

June 25, 2009 3:57 am
ESP handicapping Inc.
Surviving a heart attack
12

June 14, 2009 2:00 pm
the troll button
GB10
13

April 30, 2009 3:35 pm
NFL Draft Tracker
Rob Rang's Draft Grades
4

April 27, 2009 4:03 pm
Things that irk me in the NFL
Rule changes to be considered at NFL meeting
2

March 23, 2009 4:06 pm
The Big Story at CBSSports.com
CBSSports.com from the NCAA tournament
16

March 19, 2009 11:46 am
The View From Above
Mistake
0

February 21, 2009 5:48 pm
dook's buzz!
have you ever listened to the radio broadcast?
1

February 2, 2009 4:20 pm
(Insert Name Here)
You're a Joke, Djokovic
0

January 27, 2009 7:07 pm
The Daily Loaf
Patriots Continue to Surprise
0

January 14, 2009 12:58 pm
gallagher87
Gallagher87's vote for the Peoples Poll, Week 1
0

November 18, 2008 6:20 pm
i like beer and hamberger and chese fri
CONGRADILATION TO BARICK OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
3

November 12, 2008 6:42 am
Covering a plethora of topics ...
Cherepanov - A Different Perspective
0

October 14, 2008 5:08 pm
Blogs and Ends
The Human Side of Michael Phelps
1

September 26, 2008 1:41 pm
Slack Jaw Jackin
Batten down the hatches!!
5

September 11, 2008 12:19 pm
Vols Football
Let's Start the Interviews....
2

September 8, 2008 4:40 pm
Blog Cabin
Blog Cabin: Your weekend sports planner
1

July 11, 2008 6:55 pm
Stories from a Lil Roosta...
What Grinds My Gears.....Public Restrooms
7

June 23, 2008 3:50 pm
BigPapiandManny's 3-4 Punch
Josh Hamilton and the Triple Crown Possibility
16

June 18, 2008 2:01 pm
Wonderful World of Gonos
Goodbye, SportsLine
9

June 13, 2008 9:07 am
zeus555
The Definition of Blog
0

June 5, 2008 2:47 pm
Conversations with the People's Poster
The College Basketball Board has turned into crap
14

June 4, 2008 9:05 am
The Words of Dezy
Dezy's Top 50 CBS Sports Posters
16

June 3, 2008 9:11 pm
HogsRoll Blog of '08-All the Top Stories
Hogs Bracketology 101
6

March 10, 2008 2:49 pm
Mejia's Reflections
Back in the saddle
1

February 20, 2008 12:59 am
The Blog Whisperer
Why I love/hate: The Daytona 500
6

February 7, 2008 2:01 pm
What's the beat
Here's looking at you kid
2

January 15, 2008 8:51 am
Dear HR ...
Stay away, Bill
2

January 15, 2008 8:44 am

The views expressed in this blog are solely those of the author and do not reflect the views of CBS Sports or CBSSports.com