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Alpha Blog: Welcome home, Oceanic 6

Posted on: May 16, 2008 10:46 am
Edited on: May 16, 2008 11:13 am

Last night's penultimate (my bad on calling last week's that word, although I was technically right), took us back to the future -- the start of the Oceanic 6's future.

We begin with the Oceanic 6 -- Aaron, Kate, Sun, Jack, Sayid and Hurley -- aboard a cargo plane heading to an island (ironic, eh?) off of Honolulu (another island) where their families, and media, await.

The six are all cleaned up, and we soon learn about their "story." While I'm sure the details of their fake story will come of import, I didn't take well enough notes to fully relay them back. Essentially, the media story goes like this:

The plane crashed into the ocean just south of Indonesia. After spending a day in the water, on seat cushions, eight people survived and made it to a small inhabited island called Membata. From there --102 days later -- the survivors got hold of a washed-ashore fishing boat that had a raft on it. The six remaining survivors, two apparently died on Membata, used the raft to get to the island of Sumba and eventually picked up by the U.S. Coast Guard. Kate birthed Aaron on The Island and they all stayed pretty well fed.

All lies, I tell ya. Or are they?

Dialogue to note from trip to Hawaii:

Jack: "We all know the story, we get any questions we don't want to answer or we can't answer, let's just keep our mouths shut. It's OK, they'll think we're in shock."

Sun: "We are in shock Jack." -- Sun

Jack: "Well, then, this should be easy."

One reaction to shock is fight or flight. We happen to be on a plane. Just saying.

Before we get too far into the nuts and bolts of the episode, let's go over a couple things.

The episode is part of a three-hour season finale called There's No Place Like Home. The two-hour finale finale will happen on May 29. The title makes reference to The Wizard of Oz, which wouldn't be the first time we've had titles linking Lost to TWOO. Ben's season 3Sun flashback episode was called The Man Behind the Curtain and Ben's original alias was Henry Gale, the uncle to Dorothy. And of course, Ben, Locke and Hurley go off to see ... the Jacob.

We're also introduced to The Orchid station, well, sort of. It appears The Orchid station is not what the name implies, or is it? I think the significance of calling this station The Orchid is that orchids inhabit every continent on earth -- from the Arctic Circle to southern Patagonia. Why is this significant?

Because The Orchid station appears to be our time/space traveling center of The Island. Here's the Orientation video, which, I imagine we'll be seeing in two weeks.

So if that's the case, it would probably be important (as Faraday has taught us) to have constants (like orchids) when space/time jumping. So if orchids are everywhere, they could serve as a control for the volatile business of defying the laws of space and time.

Back to the story.

The Oceanic 6 fabricate their recovery, including Aaron-as-Kate's child (why?) and Sun telling the media Jin died. Sayid is reconnected with now-torture-free Nadia and Hurley has renounced his fortune.

Why the cover up? I'm sure we'll find out.

In the future, we learn that Oceanic Airlines paid the survivors a hefty settlement. And guess what Sun's doing with that mullah?

Why she bought a controlling interest in daddy's company, Paik Industries. That must be one heckuva settlement. Makes you wonder how this airline is still operational.

Why did she do this? Because her dad ruined her life, and is one of the two people responsible for her husband's death (I don't think that was part of the Oceanic 6 lie). Sun is also pregnant with child.

Future Hurley is doing OK, that is, until he sees his restored Camaro Z28's odometer. Guess what the mileage is.

On the car: 48151:6
On the trip: 234:2

Otherwise, those numbers are known as: 4 8 15 16 23 42. (somebody please give me something on this)

You give me a restored '71 Camaro with under 50,000 miles, I'll be pretty happy. But not Hurley, those dreaded numbers seem to be the catalyst to his future meltdown.

Of note in the Hurley-birthday-bash sequence. How about those Island-like whispers. His "why am I doing this" lines and the coconut on the floor? Yes, his madre has poor taste in birthday themes, but those seem to be Island remnants -- maybe Island remnants haunting a drugged-up institutionalized Hurley?

Jack finally serves up the eugogoly -- the only good thing about a wake is the free booze, daddy used to tell me -- he headed to Australia for, and after the funeral Jack learns about Claire's relationship to the Shepherds. Turns out Mama Claire wasn't dead on arrival after the Aussie car crash like we all thought. She's alive, and telling Jack about his half-sister, who just happened to be on the same plane as him. And in Kate's arms a few feet away. How close was the vein in Jack's forehead from rupturing?

Back to The Island. Hurley, Locke and Ben are off to The Orchid.

Ben: It's a greenhouse.

Hurley: Why are we going to a greenhouse?

Ben: According to John we're going to move the island.

Hurley: How are we going to do that?

Ben: Very carefully.

Hurley: If we could move it whenever you wanted, why didn't we do it when those psychos with guns got here?

Ben: Because doing it is both dangerous and unpredictable, it's a measure of last resort

Hurley: Awesome

The Orchid videoAmen. As Ben has proved, time/space traveling has been pretty much mastered by humans. So you'd have to think that the D.I./Hostiles would kick it up a notch by trying to move much larger mass. Like an island. However, you probably don't do that too often, so it's safe to say the practice hasn't been mastered.

Start with a rabbit (say, label it No. 15). Move on to a human (say, Ben). Move on to ... an island.

Fully subscribing to The Island as hub of space/time travel, it would make sense that Faraday would tell his gal Charlotte that "we must get off this island."

Not because it's going to be torched. But because Kearny is going to do something bad to the time traveling apparatus. And if that happens, time-traveling Faraday is SOL, or rather, stuck in the wrong dimension.

Regardless of what the true nature of The Island is The Orchid is what Ben and Widmore are really clashing over.

And it would seem The Orchid is what The Hostiles protect, or maybe, simply live near. Richard Alpert intersects Kate and Sayid, who were off to help Sawyer and Jack, who were off to rescue Hurley. I think Alpert (our Robin Hood of the Lost-ingham Forest) and his merry band will either do two things: A. help Kate and Sayid help Locke or B. stop Kate and Sayid from screwing up Locke's Orchid mission. Yep, I still think Alpert's a good guy.

We cut back to the freighter where Sun and Jin realize Michael is still alive. We also find out the freighter is strapped with C4. Is it just me or since Die Hard, has C4 been the plastics explosive of choice for all explosions in Hollywood?

Back to The Orchid. We get Ben's line of the show, "how many times do I have to tell you, I always have a plan."

And that's what this episode is all about. Plans. Jack has a plan for the survivors. Sun has a plan to get back at her father. Michael has a plan to help his old Island friends. Sayid has a plan to get people off The Island. Kearny has a plan to torch The Island. Locke has a plan to move The Island...and so on. Lots of converging plans.

I have a feeling that in two weeks, many a plans won't go according to, uh, plan.

Thoughts on the episode, analysis, theories? Let 'em rip.

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Since: Mar 9, 2007
Posted on: May 21, 2008 6:41 pm

Alpha Blog: Welcome home, Oceanic 6

Sorry for the late response, but your theory is excellent. Whether it happens or not, you've created a scenario I'd subscribe to if I'm a producer for this show looking for a way to wrap things up this season.

Since: Nov 30, 2007
Posted on: May 17, 2008 5:26 pm

Alpha Blog: Welcome home, Oceanic 6

i think in january again.  i know that was the original plan was to have 3 more seasons of 16 episodes apiece beginning in january and running straight through until the finale in may.  i don't know how the plans have been altered with the strike cutting this season down to 13 (or is it 14 i can't even remember off the top of my head), so i don't know if there will be a couple additional episodes added to each season or not.  i guess we will see.

Since: Jan 8, 2007
Posted on: May 16, 2008 11:14 pm

Alpha Blog: Welcome home, Oceanic 6

Interesting theories guys. I don't have a ton to add, but here are a couple things

Otherwise, those numbers are known as: 4 8 15 16 23 42. (somebody please give me something on this)

This is something the creators have said they won't fully explain, but they have been dealt with pretty satisfactorily in supplement media, specifically the Lost Experience Online Game and some book that was related to Lost. The numbers are basically the answer to something called the Valenzetti Equation. This equation is predictor of human history and these numbers satisfy it. Unfortunately the future this equation predicts for humans is pretty bad, so the DHARMA initiative was created to change the numbers. No matter what they did though, the 'human factors' always came out the same. So thats what these numbers are. Still not explained in full, but at least we know their importance.

Except that Papa Shepards body was on the plane.


Really? I don't think we know that for sure. We know Jack was fighting with the lady at the desk to get him on board, but we never find out if the lady relents. Then when Jack finally finds his fathers casket on the island there is no body. So I don't think we know for sure if Papa Shepard was on the plain. He is definitely dead though as the creators have confirmed this.

Last nights episode was good, but I feel like it was just a set up for the 2 hr ep in two weeks. I can't wait. I want to finally find out the answer to the seasons biggest question. WHO"S IN THE CASKET WHEN JACK GOES TO THE FUNERAL? My money is on Ben though I hope I'm wrong as he is my favorite character.

It's going to be tough waiting in the offseason for this show. I'm so glad it came back after the strike. When is season 5 supposed to start?

Since: Feb 12, 2008
Posted on: May 16, 2008 8:13 pm

Alpha Blog: Welcome home, Oceanic 6

Everyone is forgetting the main connection to the boat, the island and home, WALT.  The Oceanic 6 has a couple extras to deal with Michael and Walt.  I doubt the boat will be blown up, not with Sun onboard.  I doubt anything will be settled with the boat situation until Penny and her dad show up. 

There is they mystery of who the two who died after the fake crash, who is in the closed casket Jack found-is it Ben? Or Locke or Sawyer? Why is Charlies character screwing with the big guys brain at the mental ward?  When will the creepy bald black guy have his connect the dots matched up? 

COnsidering everything that has changed since the first season, there is no way to speculate what will come. 

Since: Nov 30, 2007
Posted on: May 16, 2008 4:18 pm

Alpha Blog: Welcome home, Oceanic 6

personally, i don't think that locke saw walt in the season 3 finale.  i think he saw a vision of walt, similar to his vision of boone at the beginning of 3rd season.  the island often allows its inhabitants to see 'visions' (like the previously mentioned kate's horse, or that cat from one of sayid's flashback episodes, or locke speaking to boone, or hurley's imaginary friend from the mental institution).  come to think of it, jack see's his dad walking around a few times early in season 1.  until these last few weeks, i had no reason to believe that this wasn't just another 'vision', but now he has been seen by claire, locke, and possibly hurley (when he saw the cabin early this season).  i wonder if christian's body is being somehow inhabited by the smoke monster?  or if it is somehow moving around like certain 'others' do (like the psychiatrist juliet saw...i forget her name though)

while i was watching this week, i was also mainly wondering how the oceanic 6 would come together, and why these 6 are the ones to get off the island.  why is jin not with sun?  why would jack, their supposed leader, be among those rescued?  wouldn't he refuse to be one of the first to go, wanting everyone to get off the island?  how does hurley end up with everyone?  why is sawyer not with?

here is my theory:  rich alpert and the others are who ben was signaling with the mirror, and they are going to help him take down keamy and the other's (did anyone else catch that they actually left footprints this time?  this would indicate to me that they are not going to hurt kate and sayid, seeing as the others have the capability to move around without leaving any footprints).  this group, taking kate and sayid along, go to the orchid and there is a big battle.  john is already inside, and down in the 'real' station, trying to figure out how to move the island.  hurley, meanwhile, stays uptop, out in the forest, where he is reunited with kate and sayid.  these three either escape from the others or part ways mutually, but either way they eventually met up with jack and sawyer.  jack's stitches rupture, forcing him to get off the island, and the group has to help him back to the beach.  meanwhile, on the freighter, daniel has come back with the next load of people, and jin forces him to take sun off of the ship because of the c4.  jin stays to help disarm the bomb.  so when daniel returns to the island, he is carrying sun and aaron with him.  sayid comes running out of the jungle because they need help getting jack.  he takes the boat, with sun in it, and heads down the beach a ways to find kate, sawyer, and hurley carrying jack out towards the beach.  they pull up, and everyone piles into the boat.  sawyer is the last in, and since the boat can supposedly only carry 6 people, he stay behind to help the other crash survivors on a later trip.  the boat heads out to sea just as locke successfully moves the island.  as the oceanic 6 head towards the freightor, the bomb detinates as keamy is now out of range of his bomb (the arm band seems to me like it would be a heart sensor or something of the sort, so that if keamy were killed to bomb would detinate, meaning that it would also detinate if he were suddenly out of range).  the oceanic 6 have no other option but to stay in the boat, and the rest happens just like the story they tell the press, where they wash up on an indonesian island and call the us government for help.

the only problem i have with my theory is that desmond would end up dying, which doesn't seem to make sense to me because with his 'visions' and whatnot, he seems like he is too important to kill off.  maybe he and some of the other freightor people jump off before it explodes, and the oceanic 6 only see it from afar and conclude that everyone on it died.  but then those freightor survivors couldn't get back to the island either.  it does seem clear to me that the freighter is doomed, because there are already so many crash survivors on it who are not part of the oceanic 6.  i guess it is possible that jin, desmond, and michael could diffuse the bomb, and that the freightor is close enough to the island at the time when it is 'moved' that it is carried along with it.  it just seems like someone will probably die in this finale episode other than just the nameless mercenaries and the nameless others.

Since: Jan 18, 2007
Posted on: May 16, 2008 2:13 pm

Alpha Blog: Welcome home, Oceanic 6

Hey Cuban - Remember the episode where Michael (a.k.a. Kevin Johnson) goes to see Walt right before he decides to go work on the boat?  I think it was his mother's house.  That's where Walt was - they showed him look out the window at his dad. 

Interesting though how Locke saw (or thought he saw) Walt on the island after him and Michael left....hmmn...

Since: Mar 9, 2007
Posted on: May 16, 2008 2:12 pm

Alpha Blog: Welcome home, Oceanic 6

On another note, right before Sun tells her father that she bought the controlling interest in the company, they showed a colleague telling him something about money going into or coming from 5 banks.  Does anyone remember what was said there?  I wonder if he was telling him that someone bought the controlling interest and it came from 5 banks?  Maybe Sun had help from the other 5 (Oceanic 6) in buying the interest in the company?  Your thoughts???

Nice observation. I think we're all starting to agree that Sun isn't alone in taking over Paik.

Since: Mar 9, 2007
Posted on: May 16, 2008 2:10 pm

Alpha Blog: Welcome home, Oceanic 6

blog = blow, Freudian slip, I guess.

Since: Mar 9, 2007
Posted on: May 16, 2008 2:09 pm

Alpha Blog: Welcome home, Oceanic 6

If I may blog your minds (courtesy of Doc Jensen, who I just read) about the numbers:

It's probably premature to be jumping to conclusions about what any of this could mean: We've only seen part 1 of ''No Place Like Home''; the rest of it will air in two weeks. Then again, since when have these recaps been governed by common sense? ''No place like home'' comes from The Wizard of Oz, of course, though the line is actually found in (Numbers alert!) chapter 4 of L. Frank Baum's book, not at the end as in the Judy Garland movie. The title of that chapter? ''The Road Through the Forest.'' Perfectly fitting for an episode that saw much jungle trekking and emphasized the importance of following carefully marked if treacherous paths, be it the route from freighter to beach or the scripted lines of the Oceanic 6 cover story. The episode ended with Ben getting knocked out in the greenhouse — and whaddya know, if we continue to use the Numbers as a guide, chapter 8 of Oz, ''The Deadly Poppy Field,'' finds Dorothy passing out in a field of flowers. Perhaps the two-hour finale will correlate with chapter 15 (could ''The Discovery of Oz the Terrible'' = Jacob?), chapter 16 (could ''The Magic Art of the Great Humbug'' = Ben's twisty, tricky secret plan?), chapter 23 (could ''The Good Witch Grants Dorothy's Wish'' = Charlotte fulfilling her promise to Jin to make sure Sun gets away), and chapter 24, which is 42 backwards (''Home Again'' is clearly a reference to reincarnation/eternal-recurrence theory — I mean, clearly). (You're going to miss me during the impending hiatus, aren't you?)

If he's spot on, it appears Lost is going Dark Side. Also, check out his graf, we seem to have some nice overlap.
Island and men? Well, Kate saw that Black Horse, which was sort of not real.

Since: Jan 18, 2007
Posted on: May 16, 2008 2:05 pm

Alpha Blog: Welcome home, Oceanic 6

I do wonder if you are correct in your thinking about the freighter getting blown up - I don't know what Jin said to Sun after he saw the C4 but her and Aaron were not with the other 4 Oceanic 6 so somehow they need to come together.  That brings me to Jin.  Remember the episode where Sun and Hurley go to visit Jin's grave?  That same episode they showed Jin going to the hospital w/ the stuffed Panda at the same time that Sun is giving birth.  Some people thought that they were going back and forth to the future and the past but I think that was both in the future....

On another note, right before Sun tells her father that she bought the controlling interest in the company, they showed a colleague telling him something about money going into or coming from 5 banks.  Does anyone remember what was said there?  I wonder if he was telling him that someone bought the controlling interest and it came from 5 banks?  Maybe Sun had help from the other 5 (Oceanic 6) in buying the interest in the company?  Your thoughts???

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