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Eight random thoughts on Saturday Night Fights

Posted on: October 5, 2008 4:07 am
Edited on: October 5, 2008 4:13 am

I've had a few hours to digest the whole Saturday Night Fights experience. Here are some final thoughts on the show, in no particular order.

1) Petruzelli beating Kimbo was not an upset. I made this point briefly in my fight blog immediately after the fight, and I'll explain it here. Kimbo Slice is still a novice (YouTube doesn't count). Seth Petruzelli is not. He's had 16 pro fights in a little over eight years, winning 10 and losing four. Two of his losses were to Matt Hamill and Wilson Gouveia -- both UFC fighters, both more skilled than Kimbo Slice. Look, Seth Petruzelli may not have much of a name, but he's a solid enough fighter to beat a guy with less than two years of experience on short notice. Kimbo wasn't as likely to figure out a way to beat Petruzelli on short notice as vice versa.

Gabriel Gonzaga beating Mirko Cro Cop with a head kick was an upset. Seth Petruzelli beating Kimbo Slice was a case of perception vs. reality. This time, reality won. In 14 seconds.

2) Kimbo is not finished. He will not be the ratings attraction that he was before this loss, but a single loss does not end a fighter's career. And if he allows it to, he should be ashamed. What kind of fighter quits after one loss?

Kimbo will learn from his mistakes and get right back on the horse. That's the admirable thing to do.

3) Kimbo isn't ready for top-level competition. It turns out that James Thompson and Tank Abbott were probably suitable opponents for Kimbo Slice after all, if we're trying to match up guys by their skill level (OK, maybe Tank is a stretch). Some people say Kimbo was handed easy victories on a silver platter. In fact, moments before the Petruzelli fight, people were saying that exact thing about Petruzelli -- that Kimbo had once again been handed an easy win. For more on that, refer back to point No. 1.

4) This was bad for business. There's no other way to state it. When your biggest attraction (face it, Jake Shields didn't sell all those tickets) is beaten in 14 seconds by a last-minute replacement from the undercard, it does not help business. Kimbo Slice will still remain a curiosity to viewers -- unless he does something crazy and shaves his beard, or completely changes his look -- but there will be some loss of audience from all of this. His drawing power took a hit, and probably will not recover until he improves enough to string a few solid wins together. And that's neither a guarantee nor an impossibility. It's all up to Kimbo.

5) Ken Shamrock, exit stage left. I am not naive enough to think we've seen the last of Ken Shamrock in the cage, but for all practical purposes, he should not be booked as a main-event fighter on this kind of event again. Realistically, I know that somewhere, some time, a promoter will cough up the money to get his name associated with their show. I just get a bad feeling about it. Shamrock is not Randy Couture. I believe if he continues taking major fights, he'll not only tarnish his legacy further, but he'll endanger his health. I felt this way before the Kimbo fight that never was, but now that he's dodged that bullet, it might be time for Shamrock to bow out. Again.

6) Yoko Takahashi rules. This woman is a warrior straight down to the bone marrow. She got absolutely ravaged by Cristiane Cyborg and never stopped pushing forward and fighting back. She looked like she got hit by a truck after the loss. Yet there she was after the fight, limping around with a brace on her knee, a patch on her face, and several visible wounds... smiling. And socializing. And happily getting her picture taken with Seth Petruzelli. She left it all in the cage, and she was thrilled to be there, even after losing. That, my friends, is fighting spirit.

7) Cris Cyborg is Drago, Gina Carano is Rocky. It's coming soon, trust me. And it will be a war.

8) Carano deserves some respect. Weight issues aside, she is knocking down every opponent they give her, and looking good doing it. It's time for people to acknowledge that she's the real deal. Just because she's pretty doesn't mean she's a manufactured publicity stunt. She hasn't fought every single one of the top challengers out there, but she's been busy enough, and nobody has stopped her yet. The sad thing is, just like Kimbo (and every other fighter), she'll get beaten eventually... and people will immediately claim her career is over.

Since: Mar 15, 2008
Posted on: October 17, 2008 6:58 am

Eight random thoughts on Saturday Night Fights

Excellent post man, I couldnt agree more esp on number #1 and #8 and #5

Since: Oct 3, 2008
Posted on: October 7, 2008 12:49 am

Eight random thoughts on Saturday Night Fights

I agree Kimbo will be back and he will do nothing but get better. However, I am happy that everyone got to see he is human. You are not going to go long in MMA without a loss. Between all the different fight styles and range of fighters it is only a matter of time before you get caught or just find someone with a style you can't beat! Next, Ken Shamrock should exit, he is one of the Holyfield's of MMA. I respect his career but he is going to get seriouly hurt. Will MMA stop him from it is the question! Lastly, Carano Vs. Cyborg will be a great battle. I don't know if Rocky will be the victor in this one though. If I was a betting man I would put money on both of them kicking my ass. I would rather take it from Gina though!

Since: Dec 1, 2006
Posted on: October 7, 2008 12:25 am

Eight random thoughts on Saturday Night Fights

Good take Frady but I think you mean Nick Diaz. Nate (his little brother) is locked up by UFC and won't be leaving anytime soon. But I would love to see the original Stockton Bad Boy get back in any kind of fight. After suspension, he should be ready to go. Gotta love the Diaz brothers, their interviews are better than their fights.

Since: Nov 18, 2006
Posted on: October 6, 2008 2:21 pm

Eight random thoughts on Saturday Night Fights

Thinking he was the best? Did you see the interview with him right before the fight? Did you see him coming into the ring? He was scared to death. He knew he was fighting a young guy that was an expert in martial arts not a 44 year old has been. He knew that he was in big trouble and he was scarred to death. He just rushed the guy got caught and went down and could not defend himself because he is a hack, don't fall for the Bimbo hype. The guy is a joke.  

Since: Nov 18, 2006
Posted on: October 6, 2008 2:08 pm

Eight random thoughts on Saturday Night Fights

The right hand when Bimbo was coming in was what did it. He went limp and straight down. After that he did miss with about three punches then he landed three hard blows without Bimbo putting up and defence. That was why they stopped it. Besides Bimbo tapped out in his last fight  and it didn't get stopped when it should have. Stop defending bimbo he doesn't deserve it.  

Since: Apr 7, 2008
Posted on: October 6, 2008 2:04 pm

Eight random thoughts on Saturday Night Fights


Since: Aug 6, 2008
Posted on: October 6, 2008 1:50 pm

Eight random thoughts on Saturday Night Fights

It just goes to show you that Elite XC is still no UFC. No doubt, I watch it when its on. Hell, I watch the SportFights, WEC, Dream, you name it, I watch it. Just goes to show you CBS should have given in to Dana White'd demands. They would have had a better product, and better ratings.

Kimbo cant hang with below average fighters. He can fight other neighborhood bums, and maybe thats what he should stick to. When I heard he was going to fight Ken, then I thought it could be a fight since Ken is washed up anyway. Ken is terrible after catching that beat down in London.

The highlight of the night, and most CBS EliteXC fights was Gina fighting. Gina is awesome. The female fights are by far the most entertaining fights each night.

Since: Oct 6, 2008
Posted on: October 6, 2008 11:28 am

Eight random thoughts on Saturday Night Fights

MMA gloves don't have laces and a thumb wouldn't cause a cut like that. Cuts caused by thumbs are different and probably worse. Give the guy some credit. Kimbo was caught by a short right had coming in. Watch the tape.

Since: Dec 3, 2007
Posted on: October 6, 2008 10:47 am

Eight random thoughts on Saturday Night Fights

I am not a fighter..only a fight fan..and it sure looked real enough to me to.
Short right hand caught him perfectly, (reminds me of the Ali-Liston rematch so called phantom punch) and he was then promptly swarmed.
I agree with the stoppage. No defense, getting hit at will, Kimbo was defenseless.

Since: May 13, 2008
Posted on: October 6, 2008 10:38 am

Eight random thoughts on Saturday Night Fights

see ali vs. liston

same punch

same result

maybe they were both dives or maybe they just caught flush right above the eye

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