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Bisping, Leben talk about UFC 89

Posted on: October 9, 2008 4:18 pm
Edited on: October 9, 2008 4:18 pm
 

UFC 89 will be headlined on Oct. 18 by a middleweight bout between Chris Leben and Michael Bisping.

Considering the fighters are two of the UFC's most polarizing personalities -- and in the past, two of the more accomplished trash talkers -- Thursday's conference call to discuss the fight was relatively subdued.In fact, both Bisping and Leben seemed friendly and cordial. Dare I say, they both sounded cheerful. The call was light on insults and bravado, heavy on compliments and introspection. Leben in particular sounds like a man who has grown up considerably since he made his name years ago as one of the central characters on the first season of The Ultimate Fighter.

Michael Bisping (UFC)Some highlights below.

Leben on what this fight means: "I think this fight is really a deciding factor of who's gonna be at that top tier, you know, in the middleweight division (and) who's gonna be in line for a title shot. Who's gonna fall back down and be kind of in the midst of the pack. As far as that goes, I can't say how I think Michael is going to fight, how he's going to perform if he fights Anderson (Silva). I fought him once, and obviously it didn't go the best. But that was years ago. I'm a much different fighter. The Chris Leben of today wouldn't do what he did then."

Bisping responds:
"Pretty much just what Chris said, really. Whoever wins this fight moves onwards and upwards towards title contention. And as Chris said, you kind of fall back to the middle of the pack, for the loser. So obviously, a lot riding on it."

Leben on getting a second chance to fight Bisping after legal issues prevented the first booking from happening: "When I was first slated to fight Michael Bisping, it was a huge opportunity for me. It's a fight that I personally wanted, and obviously some things came up and caused me to not take that fight. It was a huge bummer. It was a giant let-down. It was a letdown for me, it was a letdown for my camp, it was a letdown for the fans, and you know, obviously Michael as well. Luckily the UFC came back around. They knew it's the fight everybody wants to see. They offered it again, and I gotta tell you, it lit a fire underneath me. To have that opportunity pulled away from me like I did, when I got that second chance, you know, it just made me that much more focused, that much more intense. Obviously Michael got another great win in decisive fashion. So for me, all that played into being one giant motivator for training for this bout."

Bisping on making weight at 185:
"I kind of know what I'm doing making the weight. The first time was quite stressful, because I didn't know how easy or hard it was going to be to make the weight, but now I'm pretty confortable. I'm probably going to come in a bit heavier this time than I have in the past, because I know I can cut a little bit. But yeah, it's feeling natural for me. I feel great at this weight. Middleweight was always my natural class; I was just too stupid to realize it."

Bisping on whether it will be difficult to put Leben away: "I think it's well-documented that the guy can take a good punch. We've all seen it. He takes a good shot. That's all well and good, you know. Whether it's the smartest game plan in the world is another thing, but yeah, Chris is tough. I'm not underestimating him whatsoever. He takes a good shot and he lands a good shot himself."

Leben on why he was forced to pull out of the first fight:
"I had got a DUI in Oregon. I was supposed to take care of ... there was a bunch of diversion-type stuff. I had to go to a class, and obviously obey the terms of my probation. One of the terms of my probation was not to leave the state. I moved to Hawaii. Apparently, you can't do that. (laughs) ... I'm done now. It's pretty cool. I was a little worried about going through customs, but I'm in the country now. I got a nice clean record, and yeah, everything is taken care of."
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Since: Mar 15, 2008
Posted on: October 22, 2008 7:51 am
 

Bisping, Leben talk about UFC 89

Like stated - Leben didnt pick his shots and didnt keep the distance. He chased ( which is ok ) but Bisping picked him apart with jabs. When leben did connect he rocked bisping he has a wreck jaw. Wait till he faces someone with a reach like silva. End of story. Bisping has to up his power punchs and work on some kicking skills.



Since: Jul 27, 2007
Posted on: October 18, 2008 10:01 am
 

Bisping, Leben talk about UFC 89

Most people just realized your ignorance and decided not to leave any comment.

Me on the other-hand decided to correct you! Bisping is a better fighter? Ok, and how did you come to that conclusion? Thats right is was your opinion! This will be a barn-burner and we can count on the "count" getting knock out!

As far as Bisping being Champion, call me when hell freezes over!

..........dime




Since: Mar 15, 2008
Posted on: October 17, 2008 6:54 am
 

Bisping, Leben talk about UFC 89

because you're being acted

* error * its late so I make mistakes, but its suppose to mean or say ( you were being attacked earlier from other people who posted ), therefore you kept going with it, into my post and lost my "pov" point of view.



Since: Mar 15, 2008
Posted on: October 17, 2008 6:51 am
 

Bisping, Leben talk about UFC 89

So you're clearly not interested in the career paths of either fighter - then why even bother commenting? Oh well - saves you having to watch the fight then, doesn't it?


Uh, probably because Im a fan of MMA in general. Just because I think they both will get their ass's handed too them vs better fighters doesnt mean I want comment or watch the fight. I would do the same thing if the Detroit Lions played the Cleveland Browns, Both teams blow, but I enjoy football.  

( stupid remark by you )

He'd beat Leites now, he'd have a good shot at beating Franklin soon, CB Dollaway's name being brought up is just stupid, and Evan Tanner's dead. Next?

I dont think he would be Leites now, He will never be able to beat Franklin, Franklin ( in my opinion smashes everyone except Silva ), Dollyway was brought up out of being ( comical ) from what I think of Bisping, and Evan tanner was my mistake... Obviously I had forgotten that he passed away.. I mean shit it was just last month...

That's a little harsh - what have you done with your life so far? ^^

Lets be serious ? comparing myself obviously to him ( I graduated and Im back into college getting another degree ) did he ? naw, been fighting his entire life and still hasnt done shit with it ( but I respect sticking to his goals ) he has 2 kids it looks like and a wife ( we'll Ive been dating miss teen ohio from 07 ? actually miss teen ohio ambassador aka steffany ott for 2 years and when shes done with college we're getting married ) remember he has 2 years on me. I was make pretty good money, since hes not a "top fighter" I probably make around what he makes at the moment, now if he becomes top shit ppv event, then hell be making nice chunk of change. I lift every day, he works out, but as far as my life compared to him instead of fighting 24 / 7, Im already in my career going back to college to switch it for a 2nd time. I think Im doing pretty damn good for the acception of not being on T.V


Ah, okay. So you have Bising (sic) as the favorite too. Alrighty then. Anyone else?

I think you missed my entire post because you went retarded on me, because you're being acted earlier by other people and felt I was attacking you also. My point was simple, Bisping will never be champion because he LACKS THE SKILL AND I THOUGHT YOU'RE MADE A JOKE WHEN YOU SAID THAT because its down right stupid. NOW as far as this fight, I think it can go either way yes. If Leben is not in good shape as far as " endurance " Bisping will win, If Leben stays at a distance and picks his shot and can go the distance in this fight, He will wreck Bisping jaw.. I'll check these forums after the fight tonight, so I can say Told you so


My verdict = LEBEN    if I had to place a bet


Bisping does have a chance if leben is not in shape and gets to close ( doesnt pick his shots ) sorta like lidden vs evans.


Peace.
 



Since: Jun 6, 2007
Posted on: October 16, 2008 8:56 pm
 

Bisping, Leben talk about UFC 89

By best possible I mean that fighting Silva stand-up is suicide.

Greco-Roman wrestling and outmuscling him on the ground is (at least right now) the only realistic chance to win.

Dan Henderson's repeated hammerfists to Silva's face are the closest he's come to being scratched.

I hope Leben shows up in good shape and fights a smart fight.  If that happens, this will be a good headline fight.

Don't really care who wins, I like em both.




Since: Nov 4, 2007
Posted on: October 16, 2008 4:35 pm
 

Bisping, Leben talk about UFC 89

Aimology -

"Bisping is better ? based on what ? neither fight has beaten anyone good or close to attending since leben beat cote back in 2006."

So you're clearly not interested in the career paths of either fighter - then why even bother commenting? Oh well - saves you having to watch the fight then, doesn't it?

"Bisping champion ? LOL   - pretty sure when GSP gains weight to come up hell destroy him, let alone he wouldnt beat
Rich Franklin, Evan tanner, Thales Leites, shit he would get stomped by CB Dollaway, hahaha."


He'd beat Leites now, he'd have a good shot at beating Franklin soon, CB Dollaway's name being brought up is just stupid, and Evan Tanner's dead. Next?

"By the way he dropped weight so he could fight in a smaller class because he cant handle 205."

Yes....? (!)

and other then that he hasnt done anything.

That's a little harsh - what have you done with your life so far? ^^

"the fight is even, if bising win's its because hes in better shape where leben fought some scrub whos not in ufc no more and the guy after that is fighting in eliteXC
"

Ah, okay. So you have Bising (sic) as the favorite too. Alrighty then. Anyone else?



Since: Mar 15, 2008
Posted on: October 16, 2008 5:46 am
 

Bisping, Leben talk about UFC 89

I agree with everything you've said except for the simple fact maia  is a good submit  guy but lets be serious, silva would destroy him, when was the last time silva had even a "close" fight ? I'm waiting foreither him to jump wait to fight griffen or to drop weight to fight gsp, but penn is jumping weight to fight gsp, so who knows whats going on, everyone is jumping around 5  - 10 lbs to fight the belt holders.



Since: Mar 15, 2008
Posted on: October 16, 2008 5:42 am
 

Bisping, Leben talk about UFC 89

Bisping is better ? based on what ? neither fight has beaten anyone good or close to attending since leben beat cote back in 2006.

fact 2 is void because fact 1 is ignorant

Bisping champion ? LOL   - pretty sure when GSP gains weight to come up hell destroy him, let alone he wouldnt beat
Rich Franklin, Evan tanner, Thales Leites, shit he would get stomped by CB Dollaway, hahaha.

By the way he dropped weight so he could fight in a smaller class because he cant handle 205. (hammil ) (evans) weight classes.
and other then that he hasnt done anything.

the fight is even, if bising win's its because hes in better shape where leben fought some scrub whos not in ufc no more and the guy after that is fighting in eliteXC



Since: Nov 4, 2007
Posted on: October 15, 2008 9:08 pm
 

Bisping, Leben talk about UFC 89

I wouldn't necessarily go Bisping<Hammil - I realise their fight was close, but a decision either way wouldn't have bothered me and I don't see Hammil headlining any cards right now, in London or anywhere else.

Completely unloaded question - from what angle did you believe Hendo to be the "best possible" matchup for Silva? Do you mean from a strictly striker-versus-grappler perspective, or something else?  




Since: Jun 6, 2007
Posted on: October 15, 2008 7:42 pm
 

Bisping, Leben talk about UFC 89

I hear you L-Train, but somehow can't get past the 'logic' you're presenting.

If Bisping<Hammil<Franklin<SI
lva then how do you get Bisping>Silva?

I realize stylistic matchups play a part, but they don't entirely change reality.

Dan Henderson is the BEST POSSIBLE matchup for Silva (in fact I would say the only style that could possibly beat Silva aside from a miracle haymaker) and was the only one to threaten him at all.

I love Bisping but he's not in the same class as Silva. 



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