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UFC 112 live results: Penn vs. Edgar

Posted on: April 10, 2010 2:30 pm
Edited on: April 10, 2010 3:12 pm

It's time for the lightweight title bout pitting champion BJ Penn vs. challenger Frankie Edgar.

Penn is one of the top fighters in the world at any weight class. Let's see if Edgar can crack the code.

Round 1: Edgar with a leg kick, moving in and out very quickly to try and avoid the accuracy of Penn's strikes. Edgar whiffs on a few feeler jabs, then gets out again to avoid a counterstrike. Left jab by Penn connects. Both guys throwing strikes conservatively. Leg kick by Edgar. Edgar uses a punch to set up a single leg, but Penn stuffed the attempt and landed a few good punches in the process.

Edgar moves in quickly and still eats a fist combo before getting back out of range. Edgar with a combo of body punches into a quickly aborted takedown attempt. Edgar with another punch into a body lock, but Penn throws him off. End of the round, and I'd give it to Penn 10-9, but he's already got a mouse under his left eye.

Round 2: Edgar with another takedown attempt off a jab, but Penn stuffs it. Edgar moves in and immediately gets hit with three punches before retreating. Edgar's constant movement is a good thing, and an acknowledgement of Penn's precision striking. Punch in the gut by Penn.

Edgar with a body punch and he gets caught by two counterstrikes. Kick to the ribs by Edgar. Penn with a left, and Edgar lands a nice countering right-left combo. Leg kick by Edgar. Edgar takes down Penn with a single leg but doesn't go down with him, so Penn gets right back up and lands two uppercuts. That's another 10-9 round for Penn.

Round 3: Edgar with an uppercut. A jab by Edgar misses the mark. Edgar misses a looping right and Penn connects with a series of counters, including an uppercut. Penn with a left, as Edgar connects with a pair of body punches. Edgar with a nice left hook off a fake. Penn with a left hook. Edgar sets up a takedown attempt with a Superman punch, which grazes Penn, but he gets stuffed. Whenever Edgar gets stuffed on a takedown, he gets right out of dodge, which is smart. He doesn't hang around and eat fists the way Mark Munoz did against Kendall Grove.

Edgar ducks an overhand right and tries another takedown, but fails. Leg kick by Edgar at the end of the round. 10-9 Penn.

Round 4: Edgar still sticking and moving, but nothing much lands aside from Penn's counters. Penn throws an inside leg kick and Edgar connects with a countering fist to the ribs. Penn with a nice left hook. Edgar throws a head kick and Penn blocks it. Edgar lands a right hand and Penn connects with a counter. Edgar with a body punch. Edgar with a body shot, but the a left hook misses.

Penn with a solid jab. And another. Penn checks a leg kick. Edgar pushes forward and Penn throws him off, then tags him with another jab. Edgar ends the round with a nice left hook. 10-9 Penn.

Round 5: Edgar lands a combo and completes a takedown. Penn escapes relatively quickly to his feet. Leg kick by Penn. Jab by Penn. Penn tags Edgar with a right that takes him off balance for a split second. Both fighters trading jabs now. Nice right hook by Edgar connects. Penn misses a head kick.

Edgar tries for a single leg takedown and Penn shucks him off. Another takedown attempt it stuffed by Penn. Left hook by Edgar. Edgar with a left hook and leg kick combo, connecting on both and dodging Penn's counter. Nice. Penn dodges a straight right and connects with a counterpunch. Jab by Penn. Leg kick to the body by Edgar.Edgar with a body punch, Penn counters with an uppercut. Penn looks tired, but Edgar is in good shape.

Penn with a right hand and a knee to the body at the end of the round. 10-9 Edgar, so I would judge the fight for Penn, 49-46. We'll see what the real judges think.

Winner: Frankie Edgar
defeats BJ Penn via unanimous decision (50-45, 48-47, 49-46) after five rounds to win the UFC lightweight title.

Wow. That was something else. It was a very difficult fight to score -- depending almost entirely on whether you value accurate counterstriking more than frequently pushing the pace and pursuing offense -- but even though it's not entirely outside the realm of possibility to give the fight to Edgar, 50-45 seems looney.

On another note, that's probably the farthest my scoring has ever been off from the official fight result.


Since: Jul 20, 2009
Posted on: April 11, 2010 6:23 pm

UFC 112 live results: Penn vs. Edgar

I'm not sure what fight you watched. Read the post directly above yours. The only thing Frankie Edgar proved is that  his cardio is better than Penn's. If dancing around the OUTSIDE of the ring for 5 rounds is being the aggressor, than I guess he was the aggressor. Penn stood in the center of the ring and countered way better than average (as you stated). Again, read the post above yours. I always thought to win a championship you have to BEAT the champ. Frankie Edgar, although he fought a decent fight, didn't do enough to win the belt from a guy who BEAT every challenger thus far soundly. If Edgar fights every fight like this he will be the most boring Champ in U.F.C. history.

Since: Jan 19, 2009
Posted on: April 11, 2010 2:21 pm

UFC 112 live results: Penn vs. Edgar


I had it 49-46 for Penn as well.  Edgar "looked" more active, but many of his strikes and kicks were blocked by Penn.  Penn landed far more strikes (especially his very accurate jabs) throughout the fight.  Penn stuffed nearly all of Edgar's takedown attempts.  I also like to give points for defense.

A side note, I was rooting for Edgar - I've never been a big Penn fan, but Penn won that fight IMO.

It was a a rather boring fight, and some of those rounds had very little action - so I can see where some of the middle rounds could have gone to Edgar.  But 50-45 is a joke.

Nonetheless, all of the blame goes to Penn.  He did very little to try to end the fight and left it to the judges.

Since: Feb 13, 2010
Posted on: April 11, 2010 3:19 am

UFC 112 live results: Penn vs. Edgar

I honestly have read all of the pro-Penn statements but at the end of this fight even Penn knew he lost.  He was dejected and disgusted in his corner as Edgar ran around the ring with his hands held high.  Edgar won by being more aggressive and in a fight this close Edgar took all of the ground points by taking Penn down twice.  I am curious for all of the Penn backers out there if they could say what Penn did to win this fight.  He was slower, less agressive, and average defensively in this fight.  As far as his counterstriking, Penn missed a lot of his strikes....if you don't believe me slow the fight down...which all of the ringside judges saw and you will see Penn missing.  Please don't be fooled by the pro-Penn announcers...Penn's counterstrikes weren't connecting that often.  Edgar was ready and Penn seemed unable to turn on the juice which could be due to an unannounced illness or injury.  Moreover, Penn's refusal to fight on the ground cost him this fight...This refusal does make one wonder if Penn was indeed hurt/sick in this fight.  All in All, I would hate to be Penn's next opponent...I do hope that Edgar isn't a Buster Douglas and wins enough to set-up a rematch with Penn.

Since: Feb 6, 2007
Posted on: April 11, 2010 1:21 am

UFC 112 live results: Penn vs. Edgar

don't feel bad that you had it different from mr. magoo with his 50-45 edgar


FightMetric has released it's report for the .  Here's the Effectiveness Score and ten point must system scoring round-by-round:

Round Penn Edgar TPM 1 94 34 10-9 Penn 2 110 28 10-9 Penn 3 55 43 10-9 Penn 4 57 55 10-10 5 63 96 10-9 Edgar Total 373 263 49-47 Penn

Well, that really puts a dent in Douglas Crosby's 50-45 scorecard now, doesn't it? 

That said, while the first two rounds very clearly go to Penn, rounds 3-5 are close enough that it's defensible to give Frankie Edgar a 48-47 decision.  I don't think anyone would dispute that.

Still, with a 100 point advantage in the Effectiveness Score (and personally scoring the bout the exact same way as FightMetric when I watched the fight "live"), Edgar's victory leaves a sore taste in my mouth.

Notable stats:

-FightMetric credited Edgar with 13 takedowns attempts, with 1 success.  They did not award him a takedown in round 2 because "he was unable to establish an advantageous position before Penn got back to his feet." 

-Penn edged Edgar in total strikes 72 to 63.

-Penn edged Edgar in HiPer strikes 71 to 61.

-Penn attacked more to the head with 61 of his 72 strikes, while Edgar threw 24 of his 63 strikes to the legs and body.

Since: Feb 6, 2007
Posted on: April 11, 2010 12:43 am

UFC 112 live results: Penn vs. Edgar

can i ask if you love rogan and goldberg? cause you obviously let their commentating affect your view of the fight.  look at the punch stat numbers and the slow motion replays. edgar did not win that fight, plain and simple.

Since: Feb 6, 2007
Posted on: April 11, 2010 12:41 am

UFC 112 live results: Penn vs. Edgar

that was the biggest robbery in the history of the ufc. the judges prob saw the mouse under b.j's eye and decided the fight was edgar's. the mouse prob came from the midget edgar's head hitting him under the eye.  after every round the slow motion replays only showed edgar being jabbed in the face repeatedly.  edgar basically won a a fight by shuffing back and forth for 5 rounds. disgusting.  50-45?!?!

Since: Aug 14, 2006
Posted on: April 10, 2010 4:41 pm

UFC 112 live results: Penn vs. Edgar

The argument about Edgar being more active than Penn is totally valid. Like I said, it all depends on your perspective. Over the years, I think I've grown to appreciate counter-striking and defensive fighting as a true strategy and skill. Many of the rounds I gave to Penn were due to the accuracy of his counters, in comparision to the accuracy of Edgar's offense.

That's the thing about fights that go the distance. There's no mathematical right answer. Aggression, percentage of strikes landed, and many other things are all supposed to weigh into a judge's score, but how much weight each aspect of the fight gets is totally up to the judge. Some judges value takedowns too much, and some don't value them at all. Same with defensive fighting, which is what Penn was doing for a lot of the fight.

Since: Mar 29, 2007
Posted on: April 10, 2010 4:07 pm

UFC 112 live results: Penn vs. Edgar

Edgar rightly won that bout. He pushed the pace, he was the aggressor, and that's what it comes down to. Penn was the superior counter attacker, but sat back too often and kept waiting for the fight to come to him. In a close fight, you always go with the fighter who actually fought. 

Can I ask if Penn is one of your favorite fighters? I know as a writer it's best to remain unbiased and I'm not accusing you of being biased, but I thought maybe if he was one of your favorites than that may have been the reason for siding towards Penn in the close rounds over Edgar, who I will admit is one of my favorites which is why I probably subconsciously find myself finding ways to side with him with my reasoning.

Since: Apr 10, 2010
Posted on: April 10, 2010 3:15 pm

UFC 112 live results: Penn vs. Edgar


Since: Aug 14, 2006
Posted on: April 10, 2010 3:14 pm

UFC 112 live results: Penn vs. Edgar

50-45 is pure lunacy. I could probably talk myself into scoring the fight for Edgar 48-47 (I'll have to watch it again), but there's no way Edgar won all five rounds.

A few of the rounds were close enough that it could have gone either way.

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