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Tripp Isenhour Needs to be taught a lesson

Posted on: March 7, 2008 1:42 pm
Edited on: March 7, 2008 2:14 pm
 

Incase you did not hear, Tripp is a professional golfer, and  was filming a television show, "Shoot like a pro," when a hawk that was apparantly 300 yards away (that's three football fields), began squaking. Well, Tripp, being the calm and sound minded person he is, drove a cart closer to the bird, and began hitting balls at it. He continued to miss, so he angrily gave up and went back.

Then, the Hawk, apparantly didn't get the memo about the TPS Reports or the one that you can't land on a golf course when Tripp the Almighty is filming, and came withing 75 yards (three fourths of a football field, mind you), and was once again squaking. Tripp became enraged, and once again began hitting golf balls at the bird. The 6th one apparantly came close to the bird's head, and he was said to have become "very excited that it was so close."

Finally, Tripp hit the bird, which collapsed to the ground and began bleeding from his nose, and later died.

Tripp was quoted as saying he didn't think he could hit it, which is patheticly stupid since he is a professional golfer and can get a ball into a small cup from further distances than that.

Tripp Isenhour, you are a petty, pathetic little man, and you need to be taught a lesson. 14 months in prison and $1,500 is the maximum fine he faces, and that is far from just punishment for such a despicable act. It's a slap on the wrist. I reiterate, you need to be taught a lesson. Maybe you should stand in a fairway while Tiger Woods tries to hit you with his driver, or stand on a pitchers mound while David Wright hits line drives at you and gets excited when one gets close, or stand in a batters box without a helmet while Justin Verlander throws nothing but heaters at your head just because you were talking.

He needs a lesson, and if it was legal, heck, forget legal, if I had the chance, I would be more than happy to oblige! Once again, and I say this with a smile, I would be MORE than happy to oblige!

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Since: Jan 20, 2008
Posted on: March 12, 2008 11:10 pm
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Since: Dec 13, 2007
Posted on: March 11, 2008 10:35 am
 

Tripp Isenhour Needs to be taught a lesson

That was a good game.  The sweep is complete. Now that is impressive.  They said that is the first rangers sweep of the sabres in 36yrs. Well I hope they can play again, in the playoffs, if the sabres make them.  Have a good one, l8r



Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: March 10, 2008 12:36 pm
 

Tripp Isenhour Needs to be taught a lesson

g8trfan_1, you put together a strong argument that, like you said, we'll have to agree to disagree on some points, but we both agree that Tripp needs punishment for the killing of the hawk, intentional or not, and you are not one of the people that is just dismissing this as a non-story or like Gregg Doyel's awful story that the bird was too stupid to live. Honestly, I refuse to read anything by Doyel from this point on because his blog was so careless. Thank you for being one of the posters who doesn't resort to name calling and one who can articulate an argument well. It's been fun debating with you!

And biopimp, Rangers have been playing really well, with at least a point in their last 12 games. Buffalo has a few tough games to finish the season against teams ahead of them, including finishing the season with 3 road games, and they really need to turn their skid around tonight because the Rangers are getting into a good rhythm and climbing up the playoff seeds. Good luck to them tonight, I'll be watching my Rangers continue to play great hockey.




Since: Dec 13, 2007
Posted on: March 10, 2008 11:35 am
 

Tripp Isenhour Needs to be taught a lesson

Bigpapiandmanny, your rangers are playing my sabres tonight.   The sabres need to win. They won't be making the playoffs if they don't string a few victories together.  Hopefully, starting tonight.  Though, the rangers have been paying them back so far this year.  I hope it will fun to watch. cya l8r.



Since: Dec 13, 2007
Posted on: March 10, 2008 11:21 am
 

Tripp Isenhour Needs to be taught a lesson

Thanks g8trfan, you seem to be a good person, I don't mean to offend.   I guess I'm a senistive person. I care for all.  If I could only save 1, I would save two and stay behind.  That statement is a easier said than done one, though I feel that is true. Thanks for your view.

 




Since: Jan 8, 2007
Posted on: March 9, 2008 7:07 pm
 

Tripp Isenhour Needs to be taught a lesson

I am not religious, infact, I choose to be agnostic, where you believe in God, but refuse to practice, mainly because of the corruption and hypocracy of basically every religion on the planet. I will not go read Leviticus, but that is the law in the bible. We do not live by the bible.

Cool. I thought agnostic meant something a little different, but it might just be subtleties. I agree with you of the corruption and hypocrisy of religion. I think people need to separate this from Christianity itself, because evil people will use anything they can to control people for their agenda, but it doesn't mean that the basis they use is evil in and of itself. That's a different discussion.


The law says the killing of this protected hawk could be 14 months in prison, I think he deserves that and more. An eye for an eye may have religious connotations, but then again, almost everything does in one way or another. It's a way to live things by.


Okay. I just brought up the Bible because that's where an eye for an eye comes from. I wasn't sure how you meant it. Still though, even in a legal sense I don't think eye for an eye applies between men and beast. Only between men. However, even if you did follow it, a true eye for an eye would mean Tripp should be killed. I know you wouldn't agree with that, so we can agree that the level of punishment should be appropriate to the crime committed. You think jail time or physical harm is warranted. I disagree. We'll just have to agree to disagree on this point.

What I have used in my own home are Humane Society Traps, which are cages that shut when the animal enters so to not cause it harm. Traumatic, for the animal, yes, and that's not avoidable, but I feel it's better to release them into the wild again or have the Humane Society pick them up rather than snap their necks or allow them to be caught in glue and slowly forced to die.


Awesome. I give you much credit for doing that. As long as people practice what they preach and don't use selective arguments I have no problem with their opinions. You do, so even though I don't agree with you, I value your opinion. It's the hypocrites that bother me and their opinions I don't respect.

The American Legal System is a joke. Probation for the actions you listed is pathetic, if it were up to me, they would be in jail for life. And jails are a joke. Cable TV, Libraries, good meals, and free gyms so they can become more fit and dangerous. Jail is supposed to be a punishment, not a resort. There's a sheriff in Texas or Louisiana, I can't remember, who has all his prisoners wear pink to demasculate them, no cable, no books, no workouts, and when they are allowed in the yard, they aren't allowed to wear clothes because they are less likely to fight naked. That is how a prison is supposed to be, not what most of them are.

Haha, agree 100%. Good call.

Sometimes the best justice is revenge. No one is there to defend the Hawk's right to live, it has just as much right to live as you or me. The crimes you mentioned are vastly worse compared to what Tripp did, I agree with that, but that doesn't mean that Tripp still doesn't deserve to be punished. His ignorance deserves punishment, and maybe getting hit in the head with a golf ball would knock some sense into him.

Disagree here. Revenge is emotion based, punishment is justice based. I don't think revenge should ever be a motive for justice. Also, I agree he should be punished. It's just the level of that punishment that I question.

You don't think he did, his actions and the witnesses state elsewise, and he showed enjoyment when a golf ball whizzed past it's head. That seems pretty intentful to me. And it's not extreme physical punishment unless the golf balls would hit him, and I mean, what are the chances in that, "like one in a million.
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Haha, touche. Again, I guess it's just who you believe. The situation arose because he wanted to scare the bird. This we can agree on. I think the problem is if he wanted to kill it because it wouldn't move. I don't think he did. He might have got excited because he got close, but even if he hit it, I doubt he wished it serious harm. Just wanted it to move. If he did want to hurt it, then yes, jail the punk. Until I see proof of that it is a mistake and innocent until proven guilty. Just my opinion.

My pets are my family members, and if you can't understand that, then you are missing out on a great deal of loyalty and love that you will never know. If the cat had run out infront of the car, that is a tragedy and a different situation, one that wouldn't deserve punishment. When you say reckless driving and driving too fast, it makes it a situation where no matter what the case, the driver is in the wrong.


Oh trust me. I love my pets too and I would do anything to protect them. If someone willfully tried to hurt them I would act in the same way you did. They might not go to jail, but I would for what I did to them. However I guess we just have a different understanding of what we consider justice. Even if it's a bad mistake that results in an animals death, I don't think it deserves jail time as long as there was no malicious intent. Restitution to the family or the state, but not jail time. We just differ in this.

Extreme cruelty? Well then, since it's basically the same scenario, Tripp must be sadistic, and his actions extremely cruel, both legally and socially. If sadistic is the appropriate word, then Tripp deserves jail time!


If his intent was to hurt the bird, you're right. It's all in the intent. You and others wanted Tripp to be hurt so sadistic is appropriate. If Tripp wanted the bird to suffer or die then he is sadistic. I'm a big believer in someones motives and intentions. Depending on the situation they are more important to me than the actual act.

Anyway, we'll never completely agree, but you're not one of the ignorant posters that I got fed up with anyway. You're reasonable and don't resort to name calling. Thanks. See you around.



Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: March 9, 2008 5:21 pm
 

Tripp Isenhour Needs to be taught a lesson

What you're quoting is mostly attributed to the bible. Go look up in Leviticus what would happen if a man killed another mans livestock for whatever reason. Was it physical pain or incarceration? No it was material restitution.

I am not religious, infact, I choose to be agnostic, where you believe in God, but refuse to practice, mainly because of the corruption and hypocracy of basically every religion on the planet. I will not go read Leviticus, but that is the law in the bible. We do not live by the bible.

The law says the killing of this protected hawk could be 14 months in prison, I think he deserves that and more. An eye for an eye may have religious connotations, but then again, almost everything does in one way or another. It's a way to live things by.

I'll give you my example. In martial arts, when sparring someone with full-protection on, the intention is not to harm the other person but to practice your skill, see where you are vulnerable, and test moves to see if they could work in a dangerous situation. Sparring calls for 20% of your regular power, it's controlled fighting. If someone goes against someone else and they go 50-100%, guess what the other person is going to do....they're going to go that same back. If someone goes 20% though, then the other person will also go 20%. An eye for an eye.

Okay, what about a rat or a mouse? I'm guessing your including them under your umbrella since you list a squirrel. You must believe it is unethical to use rat poison or mouse traps that break the rodents neck then? Or would you consider this humane?

If yes, then would have it been ok for Tripp to go over and snap the hawks neck, so that it didn't feel pain? If he did the same thing to the hawk that a mouse trap does to a mouse, and if you truly believe what you say about equality of ALL life, then you must agree this would have been ok.

Somehow I don't think you would.

Rat Poison and Mice traps are cruel, as are glue traps, especially glue traps. What I have used in my own home are Humane Society Traps, which are cages that shut when the animal enters so to not cause it harm. Traumatic, for the animal, yes, and that's not avoidable, but I feel it's better to release them into the wild again or have the Humane Society pick them up rather than snap their necks or allow them to be caught in glue and slowly forced to die.

I'm all for punishment. But the punishment must fit the crime. He has had his privileges at the course revoked. He will definitely be suspended and/or fined by the PGA and will at minimum pay a large fine to the courts. I also venture to guess he will donate his own money to some animal cause.

This is not enough for the death of a bird? You think it's 'just' to cause him extreme pain and possible serious bodily harm for his actions?

Murderers, rapists and child molesters don't get this severe of punishment and many only get probation. These things are on another planet compared to Tripps actions, yet you want to punish him worse than anyone in US history has been punished for a crime less than murder or treason? I don't see justice here. I see revenge.

The American Legal System is a joke. Probation for the actions you listed is pathetic, if it were up to me, they would be in jail for life. And jails are a joke. Cable TV, Libraries, good meals, and free gyms so they can become more fit and dangerous. Jail is supposed to be a punishment, not a resort. There's a sheriff in Texas or Louisiana, I can't remember, who has all his prisoners wear pink to demasculate them, no cable, no books, no workouts, and when they are allowed in the yard, they aren't allowed to wear clothes because they are less likely to fight naked. That is how a prison is supposed to be, not what most of them are.

Sometimes the best justice is revenge. No one is there to defend the Hawk's right to live, it has just as much right to live as you or me. The crimes you mentioned are vastly worse compared to what Tripp did, I agree with that, but that doesn't mean that Tripp still doesn't deserve to be punished. His ignorance deserves punishment, and maybe getting hit in the head with a golf ball would knock some sense into him.

If Tripp purposely killed it, I would agree. I don't think he did. Were his actions stupid and uncalled for? Yes. Does he wish he could take them back? Yes. Do they call for extreme physical punishment or jail time? No.

You don't think he did, his actions and the witnesses state elsewise, and he showed enjoyment when a golf ball whizzed past it's head. That seems pretty intentful to me. And it's not extreme physical punishment unless the golf balls would hit him, and I mean, what are the chances in that, "like one in a million."

That sounds familiar....oh....bad quote there Tripp.

If you think yes, then you draw a very murky line. If your neighbor is driving too fast and recklessly and hits your cat and it dies, do you think it is right for you to physically beat your neighbor or put him in jail? His intent wasn't to kill your pet, but his careless actions resulted in the death of your pet.

Tripps careless actions had unintended consequences that left a bird dead. Where do we stop?

He'd be in jail, I guarantee that. Whether or not they could get him into jail in time to protect him from me is another story in itself. My pets are my family members, and if you can't understand that, then you are missing out on a great deal of loyalty and love that you will never know. If the cat had run out infront of the car, that is a tragedy and a different situation, one that wouldn't deserve punishment. When you say reckless driving and driving too fast, it makes it a situation where no matter what the case, the driver is in the wrong.

Reckless driving and fast driving do a lot worse than kill pets though. In freshman year of high school I lost a classmate to that who was hit. Involuntary Manslaughter is a charge in this country, incase you didn't know. The difference is a cat to a human, and while a human's life is valued more, the cat has just as much a right to be here and live.

Sadistic -extreme cruelty or the enjoyment of such cruelty

Hitting a guy with golf balls swung at by golf pros is extremely cruel (legally and socially), and maybe not you, but several of the posters took immense pleasure in hoping this scenario would happen. Sadistic is an appropriate word.

Extreme cruelty? Well then, since it's basically the same scenario, Tripp must be sadistic, and his actions extremely cruel, both legally and socially. If sadistic is the appropriate word, then Tripp deserves jail time!



Since: Jan 8, 2007
Posted on: March 9, 2008 3:28 pm
 

Tripp Isenhour Needs to be taught a lesson

Wait a second, I never said that, you're putting bad words into my mouth. I just said that if it was an athlete that died, it would have gotten more outrage and publicity. I never said that was a good thing or not a problem.

Okay. I wasn't accusing you. I asked you a question so that I could understand what you meant better.

I believe in an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.


For humans and animals??!! Please tell me this is in jest?

What you're quoting is mostly attributed to the bible. Go look up in Leviticus what would happen if a man killed another mans livestock for whatever reason. Was it physical pain or incarceration? No it was material restitution.

We should treat animals very humanely even the bible agrees on this (I have not brought up biblical stuff before this and haven't been arguing from that standpoint. Just bringing up in response to your quote). However the bible also makes clear the animals are under the dominion of men. They are not equal. If you believe the bible, then God made us in his image, not animals. He entrusted us to protect them and treat them right, but to say their lives are equal is not true and shouldn't be.

Animals do not deserve justice because they can't even contemplate what justice means. They deserve to be treated humanely this is all.

So shutting down those slaughtering houses where they were hurting pigs is correct. Jailing Michael Vick for torturing dogs was perfectly acceptable. Trying to get people to stop hurting animals even when killing them is a very just cause.

However, crucifying (and in your case sadistically causing pain to a man) Tripp over a dumb decision that killed a bird is not just, it's insane.

So what if it was a Hawk, a Cat, a Squirrel, or whatever, the fact remians he inhumanely treated it and ended up killing it.

Okay, what about a rat or a mouse? I'm guessing your including them under your umbrella since you list a squirrel. You must believe it is unethical to use rat poison or mouse traps that break the rodents neck then? Or would you consider this humane?

If yes, then would have it been ok for Tripp to go over and snap the hawks neck, so that it didn't feel pain? If he did the same thing to the hawk that a mouse trap does to a mouse, and if you truly believe what you say about equality of ALL life, then you must agree this would have been ok.

Somehow I don't think you would.

That's what justice is for, people make mistakes, some intentional, some unintentional, either way, most of the time they have to pay for them
I'm all for punishment. But the punishment must fit the crime. He has had his privileges at the course revoked. He will definitely be suspended and/or fined by the PGA and will at minimum pay a large fine to the courts. I also venture to guess he will donate his own money to some animal cause.

This is not enough for the death of a bird? You think it's 'just' to cause him extreme pain and possible serious bodily harm for his actions?

Murderers, rapists and child molesters don't get this severe of punishment and many only get probation. These things are on another planet compared to Tripps actions, yet you want to punish him worse than anyone in US history has been punished for a crime less than murder or treason? I don't see justice here. I see revenge.

What if it was a dog or cat that got away from a family, or even a pet bird that was missing that got away and Tripp killed it, if I was the owner, the police would have to pull me off of him.
If Tripp purposely killed it, I would agree. I don't think he did. Were his actions stupid and uncalled for? Yes. Does he wish he could take them back? Yes. Do they call for extreme physical punishment or jail time? No.

If you think yes, then you draw a very murky line. If your neighbor is driving too fast and recklessly and hits your cat and it dies, do you think it is right for you to physically beat your neighbor or put him in jail? His intent wasn't to kill your pet, but his careless actions resulted in the death of your pet.

Tripps careless actions had unintended consequences that left a bird dead. Where do we stop?

It's not sadistic It's punishment, and he deserves some.

Sadistic -extreme cruelty or the enjoyment of such cruelty

Hitting a guy with golf balls swung at by golf pros is extremely cruel (legally and socially), and maybe not you, but several of the posters took immense pleasure in hoping this scenario would happen. Sadistic is an appropriate word.



Since: Aug 29, 2006
Posted on: March 9, 2008 2:51 pm
 

Tripp Isenhour Needs to be taught a lesson

I see lots of mourners on the news for the college murders that happen but not much on SPORTS sites!

Is this guy asking for more attention to the girls murder hint as an admission of guilt on his part or maybe we should shut the internet down and all watch videos of the young girl giving a speech to the student council of UNC for weeks, like Chinese or North Korean TV!

Like we all have said , this is a sports site, the bird murderer was a professional golfer, who committed a crime on a golf course. The UNC murder was of a student in the streets and a random crime, nothing to do with sports. Go to Oprah.com and you'll find plenty of women to cry to about your problems. Or, go tell Tripp's prosecutors to lay off, a girl got murdered! It was just a stupid bird! He didn't mean to! According to witnesses, he did, that's why it's a big deal.




Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: March 9, 2008 2:18 pm
 

Tripp Isenhour Needs to be taught a lesson

You don't see this as a problem? A college athletes dies and there would be more outrage than if a college student died?

Wait a second, I never said that, you're putting bad words into my mouth. I just said that if it was an athlete that died, it would have gotten more outrage and publicity. I never said that was a good thing or not a problem.

I just think that all the people who acted like Tripp Isenhour was the worst person on earth and called for sadistic things to be done to him need to check themselves

I believe in an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. I don't see what would be so bad if Tripp was forced to stand on a golf course while professional golfers all took repreated swings at him. So what if it was a Hawk, a Cat, a Squirrel, or whatever, the fact remians he inhumanely treated it and ended up killing it. Jail time isn't physical pain (not directly at least). He should have to serve some for acting like such a moron and lacking a thought process. That's what justice is for, people make mistakes, some intentional, some unintentional, either way, most of the time they have to pay for them. This one involves the unlawful death of a protected species of Hawk in a terrible way that is up for discussion whether or not it's intentional. I'm sorry, but I think he needs to be punished, and a message sent out to him and everyone who reads about this.

What if it was a dog or cat that got away from a family, or even a pet bird that was missing that got away and Tripp killed it, if I was the owner, the police would have to pull me off of him. Just because it was a wild animal doesn't make it less wrong. I'm not a violent person, but if this had happen in my neighborhood and Tripp killed the hawk infront of me, I would have handled the situation in my own way. It's not sadistic, sadistic is the Saw movies and Hostel and other movies of the sort. It's punishment, and he deserves some.



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