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Clemson is the new West Virginia

Posted on: December 1, 2008 8:16 am

Those who don't study history are doomed to follow West Virginia into the toilet.

That's where Clemson is headed. The toilet. The Tigers apparently are following the Mountaineers' post-Rich Rodriguez plan, which is to say, they're elevating an assistant coach because of his enormous popularity with the current players and his tiny sample size of games as head coach.

At West Virginia, the new coach became longtime assistant Bill Stewart, whose first season at the helm saw the Mountaineers finish out of the BCS picture in the worst season yet for the worst league in the BCS. The Big East is terrible, and West Virginia -- after dominating it under Rodriguez, and with talented quarterback Pat White back -- couldn't win it. West Virginia couldn't even beat East Carolina. Or Colorado.

The Mountaineers are a disappointment, and now it's Clemson's turn.

Dabo Swinney? Are you kidding me? Look, Clemson, you don't kill the king to promote the prince. But that's what you did, running off Tommy Bowden and promoting his receivers coach, Swinney. Because as we all know, Clemson is known as Wide Receiver U.

It looks good now, Clemson fans. I get it. Swinney went 4-2 as interim coach and beat South Carolina. Great. Terrific.

But in three years when Clemson is 4-8, remember where you heard it first.

Category: NCAAF
Tags: Dabo Swinney

Since: Nov 22, 2008
Posted on: December 3, 2008 8:49 pm

Clemson is the new West Virginia

I wouldn't call Stewart, who has won a minimum of 7 games (possible 8+bowl game) and a #23 recruiting class a failure.  I think MANY new head coaches this year, Petrino, Rodriguez, Jones, etc. would be happy to have that record.  Don't you think?  WVU lost a few games this year they probably should have won, but is WVU the only team in the nation to lose games they should have won in a rebuilding season?  Didn't UM lose to Toledo?  What about LSU?  Yawn!    

  We have no idea how well Stewart and Swinney will be at their new positions.  Shouldn't we give them a chance?  Didn't BC hire an assistant?  Has he been a complete failure?

BE being the worst league?  Ha!  At least the BE has won their BCS bowls.  Has the ACC won any BCS bowls?  Paging VT and Wake.......Most conferences have been beating each other up from top to bottom.  Are we to be impressed with the Big 10 and SEC this year?  I know I was impressed when Wisconsin took OT to beat Cal-Poly.  Didn't this very site have an article on the ACC about how it didn't become the power football conference it so hoped to be?  The BE bashing has become so old.  Please, time for some new material!

Since: Jun 10, 2008
Posted on: December 2, 2008 4:34 pm

Clemson is the new West Virginia

You should consider not writing?

It sucks Doyle!

Since: Jun 7, 2008
Posted on: December 2, 2008 12:43 pm

Clemson is the new West Virginia

While the hiring of Bill Stewart was an egregious error...I don't think you can honestly say the Big East is the weakest conference out there. Look at the numbers...ever since the grand reformation of the ACC, when they stole away three of the Big East's marquee programs the Big East is 3-1 in BCS bowl game while the ACC is 0-4. Additionally the Big East champions have defeated the SEC champions (WVU over Georgia), the ACC champions (Louisville over VT), and the Big 12 champions (WVU over Oklahoma). So how can you say the Big East is the Big Least? Put Syracuse in the god awful ACC and they would win it.

Since: Dec 2, 2008
Posted on: December 2, 2008 12:40 pm

Clemson is the new West Virginia


What Clemson guy did your wife cheat on you with? Sheesh. You have consistently hated Clemson for no earthly reason for over 5 years now. What Clemson guy did you wrong?

Since: Mar 7, 2008
Posted on: December 2, 2008 11:55 am

Clemson is the new West Virginia

TigerPawSC , way to thrust enthusiasm into the debate. What kind of Clemson fan are you that you would firstly point out some recruiting misses , though they didn't work out at Clemson because they weren't better than what we had with them , and secondly by stating that Clemson fans are idiots . As if any fans had anything to do with hiring Dabo , c'mon man.

Next time you want to show your Tiger brethren the respect you displayed in that posting , save it, we have Gamecock lovers for that kind of idiocy.

Since: Aug 18, 2008
Posted on: December 2, 2008 4:04 am

Clemson is the new West Virginia

No but Clemson could have gotten Fulmer that has forgotten more about college football than this kids knows. I am a SEC man, i dont like Fulmer, but Fulmer had some great years in the SEC. Clemson could have gotten him cheap because of the last couple years. Fulmer could put a staff together that could compete with the top teams in the ACC. You get what you pay for.  Dado is a good young coach. But in three or four years the crowd at the ESSO will want his head after he ends a couple seasons looking up at VT, BC, GT, FSU, and UNC. UNC went out and got them a guy that is a proven winner, the Heels will own the orange and purple now too.

Since: Sep 28, 2006
Posted on: December 1, 2008 11:43 pm

Clemson is the new West Virginia


Billy Napier is the recruiting coordinator.

Swinney might have been responsible for Spiller and the still unproven McClain and Harper, but he's also the guy who brought us such diamonds in the rough as Jeffrey Ogren, Drew Traylor, and Antwon Murchison.

Seriously, fellow Clemson fans. Will you open up your eyes and see what everyone outside of Clemson is seeing? You idiots chose to promote Swinney because it makes for a nice sports movie script while most rational people (only a small sliver of the Clemson faithful) wishes that logic would have prevailed.

This coaching search was so Busch League.

Since: Jan 21, 2008
Posted on: December 1, 2008 9:41 pm

Clemson is the new West Virginia

i got to know,,what happend to all you man love for old coah nutt anyways...points my azz,,beat the hawgs in the ground,,,cmon,,youve lost all my respect brother,,,ppppeace

Since: Mar 6, 2008
Posted on: December 1, 2008 9:07 pm

Clemson is the new West Virginia

I have Dabo Swinney in my Fantasy Coaches League and was elated to hear the news of his hiring, especially since I didn't pick Lane Kiffin up off the waiver wire when Al Davis cut him loose. If I can just get Charlie Strong hired I'm pretty sure I'll take the championship.

Since: Nov 24, 2008
Posted on: December 1, 2008 7:23 pm

Clemson is the new West Virginia

The new West Virginia?  They are beyond what West Virginia has done. 

They are the biggest letdown in all of college football.  With all that talent and in a weakened conference. 

I will say that they should have spent more time interviewing to search for the best candidate.  if they believe promoting from within is the answer then he better put up or being loyal will eventually turn loyal Tiger fans crazy. 

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