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Clemson is the new West Virginia

Posted on: December 1, 2008 8:16 am

Those who don't study history are doomed to follow West Virginia into the toilet.

That's where Clemson is headed. The toilet. The Tigers apparently are following the Mountaineers' post-Rich Rodriguez plan, which is to say, they're elevating an assistant coach because of his enormous popularity with the current players and his tiny sample size of games as head coach.

At West Virginia, the new coach became longtime assistant Bill Stewart, whose first season at the helm saw the Mountaineers finish out of the BCS picture in the worst season yet for the worst league in the BCS. The Big East is terrible, and West Virginia -- after dominating it under Rodriguez, and with talented quarterback Pat White back -- couldn't win it. West Virginia couldn't even beat East Carolina. Or Colorado.

The Mountaineers are a disappointment, and now it's Clemson's turn.

Dabo Swinney? Are you kidding me? Look, Clemson, you don't kill the king to promote the prince. But that's what you did, running off Tommy Bowden and promoting his receivers coach, Swinney. Because as we all know, Clemson is known as Wide Receiver U.

It looks good now, Clemson fans. I get it. Swinney went 4-2 as interim coach and beat South Carolina. Great. Terrific.

But in three years when Clemson is 4-8, remember where you heard it first.

Category: NCAAF
Tags: Dabo Swinney

Since: Dec 2, 2007
Posted on: December 1, 2008 7:14 pm

Clemson is the new West Virginia

Seriously Doyel? Big East worst league in the BCS? The Big East is obviously better than the ACC and might even be better than the Big Ten. I can't read the rest of this article. Its pure garbage.

Since: Oct 4, 2006
Posted on: December 1, 2008 6:16 pm

Clemson is the new West Virginia

Doyel...You are about as far off as the CEO's from the big 3 flying to Washington and asking for a Bailout.  Dabo coached for 6 games and Stewart for one.  Also, Dabo is one of the best recruiters in the Southeast and has brought some of the biggest names to Clemson ever.  He also has them in line for the next couple of years.  At first I wanted a bigger name, but who is more prepared,  Bud Foster or maybe an assistant form another university?  The players love him, the fans love him and I really beleive he is the right hire.  Mark Richt was hired when he was an assistant and so was Myer from Florida.  You can already sense a different attitude with the players and he is going to get the swagger back in Clemson.  

Since: Sep 5, 2007
Posted on: December 1, 2008 3:49 pm

Clemson is the new West Virginia

I mean, Gregg Doyel is a f***ing idiot; I wouldn't expect anything less than this ridiculous drivel from him. Also, he's a documented Clemson hater.

Since: Oct 13, 2006
Posted on: December 1, 2008 3:44 pm

Clemson is the new West Virginia

Folks, we haven't won a conference title since 1991.  We haven't won 10 games this decade.  The ACC has been wide open for three years and we can't win our DIVISION, much less our conference or a BCS bowl game.  Who did you expect us to hire?  Bill Parcells?  Bill Cowher?  Jimmy Johnson?  Let's face it - Clemson is not a top national football program and is not going to get a proven winner at a national level to come in and coach the team.   Swinney is everything that Bowden was not and fans for years have been asking for this.   He's energetic, he's charismatic and he knows how to motivate his team to play hard.   Our recruiting will continue to improve and we will win the conference under Dabo Swinney - mark my words!   Funny thing is, the whole premise of the article was to illustrate how badly West Virginia fell off the map after hiring the popular assistant but fails to mention that Michigan who hired Rodriguez just had the worst season in school history under the new proven national coach.   All I've been asking for during the past 10 years is for this football team to play to their potential - not above it and not below it.   This is something Bowden was never able to achieve consistently and something that you will see going forward under Swinney.  If we ever finish at 7-5 going forward it will be because we've got 7-5 talent not because we don't play hard.

Since: Nov 16, 2006
Posted on: December 1, 2008 3:20 pm

Clemson is the new West Virginia

Nice try Ron Cey rules that could be the lamest excuse I have ever heard Hell maybe Florida or Alabama shouldn't go to the championship because they are all tired and beat up! LAME

Since: May 15, 2008
Posted on: December 1, 2008 2:53 pm

Clemson is the new West Virginia

i would argue that the SEC teams slip at year end due to the weekly pounding against a gauntlet of UGA, Auburn, Bama, Florida, LSU, Tennessee, So Carolina, and even Vandy, Kentucky, and Ole Miss have their good weeks. For example, So. Carolina loses to Clemson every year, and it appears to me that they are simply out of gas.

once the teams are healthy again, they kick ass in bowl games. 11-4 in BCS games

Since: Oct 7, 2008
Posted on: December 1, 2008 2:30 pm

Clemson is the new West Virginia

don't think Clemson will end up like WVU at all. And who's to say the Mountaineers will continue to disappoint after this season? From what I've seen of Clemson since Swinney took over, they've been more like the team that was supposed to be good enough to be ranked #9 before the season started than the team that fell flat on their face in the first half of the year.

I don't think it was all Bowden's fault that the Tigers didn't perform well. Maybe Clemson will continue to have 9-3, 8-4, or 7-5 seasons....but can better really be expected of them, no matter who is the coach?

Since: Oct 13, 2008
Posted on: December 1, 2008 2:29 pm

Clemson is the new West Virginia

I think Swinney is a good coach but I agree that it might have not been the best choice at this time. It is probably the fact that Spiller said he would consider coming back more if Swinney was to become the coach and the fact that he won 4 of last 5 including over rival South Carolina. Although those might be decent reasons they might not look as good a couple years from now. Clemson is still a really good job to hold and they could have gotten a more high profile coach. If there next season is anything like Bill Stewart's at WVU than there might be trouble. The ACC is a league that is going to be much improved with Virginia Tech, Boston College, Maryland, Florida St., and Miami all most likely being better teams next year. There is a good possibility that in Swinney's first full year as a head coach next year he might not even make a bowl game. I guess we will all just have to wait and see.

Since: Oct 3, 2006
Posted on: December 1, 2008 2:01 pm

Clemson is the new West Virginia

Wow, Todd, didnt watch the games this week, did you?  the ACC took 3of 4 from the SEC and is currently ranked #1 by Sagarin.  The ACC lacks an Elite Florida/USC team but every team is a challenge.  Do you think it is a coincidence teams like Rutgers did well, as soon as VT, BC and UM left the Big East?  That was 3 automatic losses off RU's schedule.   Mandel even has an article about this week.  The ACC has some of the best defenses in football and I would put BC against any team and I bet they could keep it close against almost anyone with their defense.

Since: Nov 4, 2008
Posted on: December 1, 2008 1:38 pm

Clemson is the new West Virginia

"But in three years when Clemson is 4-8, remember where you heard it first."

I believe if you're going to make a statement like that you need to give WVU a couple more years to see where they're at.   They had a down year, and that happens. When you have a "well oiled" offense and lose two major parts of it (Steve Slaton and Owen Schmitt) your machine will suffer.  I feel like WVU will be competetive next year.  Recruiting well and having the players trust cna go a long way, especially in weaker conferences like the BE and the ACC.  

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