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The NCAA is so hypocritical

Posted on: August 20, 2009 8:55 am
 
So the NCAA is about to vacate Memphis' Final Four from 2008, presumably because -- while he was in high school -- 2008 Memphis star Derrick Rose used a fraudulent test score to get into college in the first place.

Fine.

But what about the program that made it to a Final Four with a player who, the NCAA later found out, had accepted more than $2,000 from his AAU coach while still in high school? That player also should have been ineligible. That school also should have vacated the Final Four.

But that player was Corey Maggette. And that team was Duke. The year was 1999.

So nothing happened. To anyone. To this day. Nothing has happened, and it never will.

My point? My point is that the NCAA, even with as much progress as it has made under Myles Brand, still uses selective justice when crashing down onto various schools or coaches. Then-Memphis coach John Calipari is on the NCAA's hit list, and so the NCAA ostensibly holds him responsible for Marcus Camby's dalliance with an agent in 1995, and for whatever Derrick Rose did while he was in high school hundreds of miles away in Chicago.

But Mike Krzyzewski is not on the NCAA's hit list, so Maggette is fine, Duke is fine, 1999 is fine, the world is a happy place full of seashells and balloons.

Forgive me if I vomit up a conch.

I said conch.
Category: NCAAB
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Since: Apr 20, 2008
Posted on: August 24, 2009 8:31 am
 

The NCAA is so hypocritical

Another great example of a good UNC fan.  Thank You!  I appreciate great post from the UNC guys that actually contribute to the overall conversation of sports!



Since: Apr 20, 2008
Posted on: August 24, 2009 8:28 am
 

The NCAA is so hypocritical

Well I think we are missing the big picture here.  Memphis should have never been punished for D Rose.  Duke should not be punished for Maggette.  It should be the coach. that gets hit.  If K knew about Maggette then he should get hit.  I for one believe that Cal knew about the SAT scores, and he should be fined kicked out........   Same for K.  I know a Duke fan saying that, but that's the way it should be.  I personally don't think K had anything to do with the AAU deal, and maybe Cal didn't with the SAT, but if they knew then they should get the fine, not the school.  So lets leave Memphis and Duke out of it and go after the real issues, or better yet lets get these agents that are trying to buy off everyone.  They are the real problem. 



Since: Aug 24, 2009
Posted on: August 24, 2009 8:20 am
 

The NCAA is so hypocritical

I vomit every time i read one of your anti-Duke diatribes ! Why didnt you disclose again to readers your obvious bias against Duke in this article ? You can no more comment upon matters Duke without bias than Roy Williams can ?
for those reading, the Maggette case is far far different from the Memphis cas and Calipari, the serial cheater.
for a detailed explanation see http://www.dukebasketballreport.com

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Since: Dec 21, 2006
Posted on: August 22, 2009 2:38 pm
 

The NCAA is so hypocritical

As another UNC fan who thinks that Kansas played a great game against us in that final four, I have to remind everyone of something else about that 40-12 score.  I was watching the game in my house with a Kansas fan (in hindsight a poor decision) who was absolutely terrified when Carolina cut that lead to 4 points midway through the second half.  You guys were the better team that night, I'm not arguing that, and I'm not going to bash Arthur just because we got beat.  Kansas had a good night on our worst night of the season, and then won a national championship because despite being hounded by the press, Calipari wouldn't take free throws seriously all the way through the NCAA tournament.  Kansas deserves that title, and I don't think some High School changing a grade can take that away, but don't act like we're talking about this year's Carolina team beating teams by 20 the entire tournament.  Memphis played a good game in the National Championship game, and Carolina did everything in it's power to overcome that early deficit.  Don't kick two good teams for losing to a team that you think is better.



Since: Dec 21, 2006
Posted on: August 22, 2009 2:31 pm
 

The NCAA is so hypocritical

WHOA!  I'm definately not a Pitino fan here, but saying he killed his kid is absolutely false and without class.  That child died of a congenital heart defect, Pitino was on his way back from a game when he learned of the child's death.  Hating someone for something they actually did, like his marital indiscretions is really up to you.  Manifesting something that didn't happen to manipulate the way other people feel about him is just base.  The incident where he payed for an abortion with his mistress is something that we just don't know enough about to comment on.  I don't agree with abortion either, but he wasn't the only person making that decision, and now that he's been caught, he admitted to the affair.  The only one still lying about the affair is the mistress, who we don't even really know was ever pregnant.  Maybe the Catholic church has decided that God will be the best judge for Pitino, that sin is a reality for human beings, and that the process of asking and receiving forgiveness is for Pitino and his God.  Maybe they are embracing him because they see someone who needs support and will be an example for real people who commit sins everyday.



Since: Jul 25, 2009
Posted on: August 21, 2009 10:48 pm
 

The NCAA is so hypocritical

Further, I am going to echo many other Kansas posters because I don't think it's being fully comprehended.  You can say all you want that Arthur's grade was changed for a class and you are absolutely and entirely correct on that.  It was deemed by the DISD investigating committee or firm that Arthur would have been ruled inelgible to play basketball his second semester of his junior year because of that grade change by whomever.  The 2006 state championship was forfeited because of Kendrake Johnigan and his grades.  2005 state championship was forfeited because of the Arthur grade change.  Even though Arthur's grade change impacted his elgibility potentially in High School it had no bearing on the NCAA and NCAA clearinghouse because he still received his diploma and the DISD did not revoke his diploma after the investigation.  It can also be noted that the South Oak Cliff coach and other adults are still being investigated for this whole grade changing situation.  Unfortuantely, for all the haters you have nothing to go off of because Kansas was never directly involved or notified of any of this.  Based on that, the NCAA doesn't have a case.  You haters out there can keep "Window Dressing" all you want, but you're going to keep firing blanks.  It was nice to the UNC fan so fired up about this because he actually witnessed the destruction of Arthur and the mighty Jayhawks.  You could only wish that you would have had the opportunity to play UCLA.  Being down 40-12 will do that to one's depressed mental state. 



Since: Jul 25, 2009
Posted on: August 21, 2009 10:20 pm
 

The NCAA is so hypocritical

Many of you want to lump Arthur in with Memphis, Maggettee, Mayo, Bush, and etc., but you really have nothing to go off of.  Many of you are without knowledge and are going off of assumptions.  While there is a strict timeline in the Memphis/Rose situation where Memphis was notified to some degree in November 2007 about Rose's invalid test score, the same can not be said in the "Arthur Cleared Case".  Wait, you all did know that Arthur was "Cleared" of any wrongdoing, right? 

Let's just say Arthur's case was still "Open" even though it isn't, but let's say it is.  Even when the story broke in Late May 2008 about Arthur and South Oak Cliff that was the first time the NCAA and KU was hearing about that event unlike the Rose and Memphis situation.  Arthur's situation, even tough cleared, was notified after the 2008 season.  Rose's situation was notified in November of 2007, hence why the NCAA determined.....

"This is a situation of strict liability," Dee said. "If he is ineligible and does not meet initial requirements, the penalties are related back to that time and a determination is then made: Did he play in any contests after the fact? In this case, he did."


There was no conclusion at all to Maggette or Reggie Bush's cases.  The NCAA is trying to find a conclusion to the Memphis situation and the Arthur situation is "Closed" because he was deemed elgible to play for the 2008 season.  You can scratch and claw all you want, but you'll end up coming back to one thing, Darrell Arthur was elgible, he has his HS diploma, and he was a part of a memorable team that won the 2008 championship. 



Since: May 28, 2009
Posted on: August 21, 2009 8:01 pm
 

The NCAA is so hypocritical

I don't think they are different.  I think the NCAA either should let Memphis keep the wins o strip KU as well.



Since: May 28, 2009
Posted on: August 21, 2009 7:57 pm
 

The NCAA is so hypocritical

That is not rue.  It didn't break afterwards.  That is simply when the investigation was made public.  It was the conversation surrounding Arthur for a great deal of time before he signed.  My point is that the NCAA is selective....They could easily do to KU what they did to Memphis.  It is one of the reasons a lot f people backd away from Wall.



Since: Jul 8, 2009
Posted on: August 21, 2009 5:33 pm
 

The NCAA is so hypocritical

Is Gary Parrish and his anti Kentucky rhetoric any better, I know sports writing isnt as concerned with bias/slander/or objective reporting........but sheesh the CBS Sports writers are hell bent on being fan boys to specific schools and writing emotionally/opinion driven articles that single out fan bases.


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