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The NCAA is so hypocritical

Posted on: August 20, 2009 8:55 am
So the NCAA is about to vacate Memphis' Final Four from 2008, presumably because -- while he was in high school -- 2008 Memphis star Derrick Rose used a fraudulent test score to get into college in the first place.


But what about the program that made it to a Final Four with a player who, the NCAA later found out, had accepted more than $2,000 from his AAU coach while still in high school? That player also should have been ineligible. That school also should have vacated the Final Four.

But that player was Corey Maggette. And that team was Duke. The year was 1999.

So nothing happened. To anyone. To this day. Nothing has happened, and it never will.

My point? My point is that the NCAA, even with as much progress as it has made under Myles Brand, still uses selective justice when crashing down onto various schools or coaches. Then-Memphis coach John Calipari is on the NCAA's hit list, and so the NCAA ostensibly holds him responsible for Marcus Camby's dalliance with an agent in 1995, and for whatever Derrick Rose did while he was in high school hundreds of miles away in Chicago.

But Mike Krzyzewski is not on the NCAA's hit list, so Maggette is fine, Duke is fine, 1999 is fine, the world is a happy place full of seashells and balloons.

Forgive me if I vomit up a conch.

I said conch.
Category: NCAAB

Since: Sep 17, 2006
Posted on: August 20, 2009 4:21 pm

The NCAA is so hypocritical

What about the KS player whos HighSchool grade was changed.  About the same as Rose.

It's about the same, only it's completely different.

Since: Mar 25, 2007
Posted on: August 20, 2009 4:15 pm

The NCAA is so hypocritical

Thank you for stating the obvious!  NCAA picking on a non-BCS school because it can I guess.  What about the KS player whos HighSchool grade was changed.  About the same as Rose.

No one mentioned anything about Rose's test until April... not much you can do about an NCAA approved player then.

Since: Sep 17, 2006
Posted on: August 20, 2009 3:57 pm

The NCAA is so hypocritical

What gives; oh and what about Darryl Arthur of Kansas and his grades being changed did mighty Kansas have to forfit the title to Memphis, don't think so

I wish people would stop talking about Darrell Arthur. His grades were changed, but that did not impact his NCAA eligibility or his high school graduation. It did however, make him ineligible for a semester in high school. His high school has since vacated those wins. However, he met graduation requirements, which validated his tenure at Kansas.

Derrick Rose, on the other hand, was ineligible. However, I think that if the NCAA Clearinghouse rules a player eligible, he is eligible, no matter what information is found after, unless it is uncovered before the player plays a game. This isn't Memphis' fault, yet they are paying the price. That's not fair.

Since: Apr 2, 2008
Posted on: August 20, 2009 3:47 pm

When is the NCAA going to get USC and Calipari?

What about OJ Mayo and Reggie Bush? The NCAA needs to clean up the dirty schools like USC and go after corrupt coaches like Calipari at Kentucky. These are the real crooks!

Since: Nov 20, 2008
Posted on: August 20, 2009 3:34 pm

The NCAA is so hypocritical

Let's not even discuss the hypocritical manner the NCAA acts when it comes to players.  NCAA player rulings literally takes months to be issued and seldom are they consistent or logical.  Seldom do they consider the well being of the player. 

Since: Sep 26, 2006
Posted on: August 20, 2009 3:29 pm

The NCAA is so hypocritical

SOC had two titles they had to give up, for the same thing.  Invalid grade changes, and Arthur's was one.

Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: August 20, 2009 3:17 pm

The NCAA is so hypocritical

Eligibility for college and high school are different things. It's entirely possible that the class Darrell Arthur failed was not a requirement for graduation. This would make him ineligible to play in high school, but eligible to advance to college.

Since: Sep 14, 2006
Posted on: August 20, 2009 3:13 pm

what about Harvard

Selective enforcement is definitely true.  Harvard had Ken Blakeney, a baketball assistant coach, tour the country making contact with various recruits and even playing pick-up basketball with them.  But because this was done in the month before Blackeney was named an assistant by Tommy Amaker, the NCAA overlooked it - as if it were completely coincidental that he toured the country and just happened to engage in pick-up b-ball games with various recruits.   It's easy to blame Memphis, but Harvard is above the law. 

Since: Mar 21, 2008
Posted on: August 20, 2009 3:10 pm

The NCAA is so hypocritical

Chill out jayhawk29....

Your entire program wouldn't even exist if it weren't for KU. Dean Smith went to Topeka High and attended KU and learned everything he knows from the venerable Phog Allen. Face it you're program is just our red-headed step child.
Think a little, or do some research before you make absurd statements. I'm a KU fan and your post is just plain idiotic. UNC won a NCAA title against KU, in the 1950's. Dean Smith didn't arrive until much later. So it is stupid to say that UNC's program wouldn't even exist. blah, blah, blah...Smith did make a significant addition to UNC's program, and all KU fans should be proud that a KU player made a significant positive achievement, even at another school. Remember, in your view of thinking, we're also somewhat responsible for the Win-at-all-costs-UK Wildcat, Mr. Rupp, who also played for KU! I like Smith's contribution much more than Rupp's so go read a book or at least learn something before making yourself look really silly again!

Since: Mar 21, 2008
Posted on: August 20, 2009 2:59 pm

The NCAA is so hypocritical


As I thought, you were mixing your apples and oranges, or adding 2+2 and getting 5.

from an Oklahoma news report on the SOC situation:

in Dallas, which already has forfeited its 2006 title because of improperly altered grades for another player, is investigating whether Arthur's grades also were improperly altered, WFAA-TV in Dallas- reported.

My, how we do jump to conclusions and mouth-off on things we know nothing about! I think you owe a mea culpa!

It wasn't because of Arthur's transcript issues that the title was forfeited....

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