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The NCAA is so hypocritical

Posted on: August 20, 2009 8:55 am
 
So the NCAA is about to vacate Memphis' Final Four from 2008, presumably because -- while he was in high school -- 2008 Memphis star Derrick Rose used a fraudulent test score to get into college in the first place.

Fine.

But what about the program that made it to a Final Four with a player who, the NCAA later found out, had accepted more than $2,000 from his AAU coach while still in high school? That player also should have been ineligible. That school also should have vacated the Final Four.

But that player was Corey Maggette. And that team was Duke. The year was 1999.

So nothing happened. To anyone. To this day. Nothing has happened, and it never will.

My point? My point is that the NCAA, even with as much progress as it has made under Myles Brand, still uses selective justice when crashing down onto various schools or coaches. Then-Memphis coach John Calipari is on the NCAA's hit list, and so the NCAA ostensibly holds him responsible for Marcus Camby's dalliance with an agent in 1995, and for whatever Derrick Rose did while he was in high school hundreds of miles away in Chicago.

But Mike Krzyzewski is not on the NCAA's hit list, so Maggette is fine, Duke is fine, 1999 is fine, the world is a happy place full of seashells and balloons.

Forgive me if I vomit up a conch.

I said conch.
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Since: Jan 25, 2007
Posted on: August 20, 2009 12:49 pm
 

What about KU?

Let's not forget the team that won the NCAA that year - the Kansas Jayhawks, who had much help from Darrell Arthur, a player whose high school team was stripped of two titles due to falsified academic transcripts.

The NCAA seems to have little interest in investigating Arthur's eligibility, but it seems likely he should never have qualified for  a scholarship. They gave it a cursory glance and shuffled it aside.

Sure, they'll hammer the runners-up and Memphis, but would they have the stones to go after mighty Kansas and their title? Of course not.



Since: May 14, 2008
Posted on: August 20, 2009 12:38 pm
 

The NCAA is so hypocritical

Gregg,
I like you, but when you get on your Duke hatred tirades I kind of feel a bit sorry for you. You would be so much more reputable if you didn't have your admitted Duke bias. You could be a far more successful columnist if you would just back off a bit there.
With regards to the issue at hand. I believe schools are not punished for what the student athletes do, but the level of control and oversight they provided. For example, If Derrick Rose accepted $5 million in cash, Memphis would not necessarily be punished if the NCAA concluded that Memphis did everything in their power to keep their students away from agents, runners, etc.. and did their due diligence. This applies to the Duke situation (and more recently the Kansas situation). If Duke and Kansas did a satisfactory job of investigating the issues of concern... if they did what a reasonable person would expect to assure that their players are eligible, then the NCAA will not punish them,
I would encourage you to look further in to the practices of the NCAA. I'm afraid you don't fully grasp the concepts.



Since: Aug 20, 2009
Posted on: August 20, 2009 12:33 pm
 

The NCAA is so hypocritical

Amen to that. How was it ok for Duke to get jobs for Boozer's father and Jason William's mom, and vastly overpay them? How did Ohio State walk away from the Maurice Clarett scandal completely unscathed? How was Troy Smith taking money from a booster at Ohio State put on Troy Smith? Ohio State received nothing for this transgression, instead Smith was suspended for the bowl game and one game the following season. UK's Hal Mumme sends money to a high school coach to get him to try and persuade two of his players to come to UK. Mumme walks away, UK gets 3 year bowl ban and scholarships taken away. The NCAA makes things up as they go along. There's no consistency to the punishments handed out. Many times the punishment doesn't fit the crime.
One thing for sure and it's been said already, if the NCAA Clearinghouse clears a player, it should lie solely on the NCAA. If you go to court for murder and the judge finds you innocent, that's it. They don't come back years later and say now you're guilty.



Since: Mar 19, 2009
Posted on: August 20, 2009 12:10 pm
 

The NCAA is so hypocritical

NCAA = N O C REDIBILITY (C ONSISTENCY...YOU CHOOSE) OR A CCOUNTABILITY A SSOC.


What an absolute joke...

Why have a clearinghouse that ok's a player's eligibilty only to later decide that he is ineligible and shirk off any responsibility of their own decision. Are they not the experts and being paid? They are every bit as accountable as the universities that they penalize.

We all know the real story. The NCAA knew at the time that these uber-talents like Rose, Mayo, etc... could have eligibility issues of one type or another but would gladly clear these players in short order for their one year of college ball. It was only AFTER the fact of clearing these guys and reaping the obscene profits from their one year that the NCAA decides that their might be eligibility issues after all requiring fullscale investigations all to maintain their phony facade as being a governing council for justice and fairness.

The NCAA needs to be totally napalmed from the ground up and re-organized with men and women of ethics (if such really exist), who can't be bought by the likes of Duke, Kansas, USC, UConn.




Since: Sep 6, 2006
Posted on: August 20, 2009 12:03 pm
 

The NCAA is so hypocritical

I think the 2 offenses are apples and oranges, but if a rule is a rule, then I completely agree. By the way, are there any governing bodies of ANY organizations in the world that don't show favoritism? You act like the NCAA is pioneering this horrible act. And also, if the NCAA is so hell bent on nailing Cal, then why has he never been pursued in any of these offenses? I've got kids, and the last time I checked if I let my 8 year old drive my car to the store,I'm gonna be held responsible. If I were Coach Cal, when things get hot, maybe I could just leave my family and move in with a hotter single mom down the street! Score!




Since: Aug 19, 2006
Posted on: August 20, 2009 11:56 am
 

The NCAA is so hypocritical

I believe you are mistaken, he was not cleared, it was indeed acknowledged.  The NCAA simply said KU had no control over it, it didn't happen at their school and the high school was at fault.  But if you follow recruiting you will know that this info was out there long before he signed with KU....and how is that different that the situation with Memphis and Rose?  Memphis had no control over Rose in high school, it didn't happen at Memphis, and someone other than Memphis was a fault.  Just more hypocracy by the NCAA.



Since: Dec 21, 2006
Posted on: August 20, 2009 11:54 am
 

The NCAA is so hypocritical

It's too bad all these coaches are so geeked up about chasing Dean Smith and Bobby Knight's win records and not their graduation rates.  Those records are going to be like the iron man record in baseball, it's just hard to imagine anyone ever even coming close.  Coaches like Cal are asking us to enjoy watching mercenaries instead of student athletes.



Since: Nov 25, 2008
Posted on: August 20, 2009 11:38 am
 

The NCAA is so hypocritical

I only wish ShadyCal was on the NCAA hit list. Sadly, it is his players and former universities that pay the price for his cheating. Only when the coaches are punished along with the schools will this kind of behavior be reduced to a rarity.



Since: Sep 26, 2006
Posted on: August 20, 2009 11:19 am
 

The NCAA is so hypocritical

CLEARED?  YOU are the idiot chief.  If it was "cleared" why did SOC give up their title you MORON.  Second, did you READ the last sentence?  It says now its UNC vs UCLA, meaning PLAY A GAME OF TWO TEAMS WHO DID NOT CHEAT!!!!!!!!!!!!

2008 - The 6-foot-9 Kansas sophomore was instrumental in leading Kansas to its national championship, finishing second in scoring at 12.8 points a game and second in rebounding. He had 20 points and 10 rebounds in Kansas' national title win against Memphis.

2009 - DISD STRIPED SOC from its 2006 High School State Championship


Lets see if DISD striped them from a 2006 title, and Arthur was a sophomore in 2008, what does this mean???  HE WAS ON THAT TEAM and HIS GRADES WERE CHANGED!!!!!



Since: Aug 30, 2006
Posted on: August 20, 2009 11:05 am
 

The NCAA is so hypocritical

Well no joke!  The NCAA plays favorites and goes after people or schools it does not "like" and lets others get away with "murder"?  Really, do tell.  It sounds a lot like the current national government,  which overlooks stuff from their friends and goes after those who disagree with it too vocally.  I don't like it but everyone is probably hypocritical in some ways too, even you (and CBSSports for that matter).  But what makes the NCAA worse than some others is it seems the more honest you are in self reporting, the worse it goes for you.  So what is the answer, other than calling them out (as you have done here) or maybe doing their work for them and shaming them when they do not act on the information?


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