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When an idiot speaks, starring Bob Knight

Posted on: April 19, 2011 11:16 am
Edited on: April 19, 2011 11:17 am
You don't like Kentucky basketball coach John Calipari? Fine. You have ammunition.

Calipari recruits kids he knows will spend one or two years on campus, kids interested more in pursuing the NBA than their college degree, and if that's the sort of thing that bugs you, complain about that.

Calipari has taken three schools to the Final Four, and two of them had to vacate that appearance because of NCAA violations involving a player -- not a coach, but a player. But if that's the sort of thing you want to lay at the head coach's feet, fine. Lay it there. Complain about that.

But what you can't do -- what ESPN commentator Bob Knight did do the other day -- is ignore the pile of facts at your disposal and make up your own. And come up with your own half-truth or even your own outright lie, and use that to attack John Calipari.

But again, that's what Bob Knight did the other day when he defamed the entire starting five on Kentucky's team in 2009-10 by saying, "Kentucky (that season) started five players in the NCAA tournament games that had not been to class that semester."

Interesting statement. But an outright lie. It makes Calipari, who clearly isn't on Knight's list of people he likes, look bad. But it makes five young men look awful, and unfairly so. Because John Wall went to class that semester and made the honor roll. Patrick Patterson went to class that semester and earned his degree -- in his third year. I don't know what Kentucky's other three starters earned that semester, but if Knight thinks they didn't go to school, well, that's all I need to know to believe otherwise.

Because Bob Knight has no idea what he's talking about.

I'm not big on, "So-and-so owes an apology!" But today, Bob Knight owes an apology to John Calipari, and to Patrick Patterson, and to John Wall, and to the rest of Kentucky's starting five. He said something awful about them, something blatantly untrue, and he needs to correct it.

But he's a bad guy, so he won't say a damn thing unless ESPN makes him.

So that's where we stand. What's it going to be, ESPN?

You going to allow this?

Category: NCAAB
Tags: Bob Knight

Since: Apr 20, 2011
Posted on: April 20, 2011 12:03 am

When an idiot speaks, starring Bob Knight

Sounds like somebody from CBS is bitter about that lack of job offer from ESPN

Since: Mar 23, 2008
Posted on: April 19, 2011 10:41 pm

When an idiot speaks, starring Bob Knight

What Knight said is not true...end of discussion. Don't know why anyone is extending the conversation beyond that. He's still trying to tell the 10 people at the Bloomington Elks Club who will still listen to him about how corrupt college basketball is today and blah blah blah. He's obviously getting desperate to make his point (aka lobby for a coaching job...sad!)...and he resorted to making shit up. It's pathetic. It's been a tough year for the Calipari haters (right, Rick and Bruce?)...might want to stay off that list, Bob.

Since: Mar 11, 2010
Posted on: April 19, 2011 10:38 pm

When an idiot speaks, starring Bob Knight

I'm surprised you don't support Knight for his comments Doyel. After all, they are no different than some of the garbage you spew on a daily basis. You and Bobby Knight have something in common, you are both giant tools!

Since: Aug 29, 2006
Posted on: April 19, 2011 10:11 pm

When an idiot speaks, starring Bob Knight

I had forgotten what a clown UGA Steve's rare that I get to read his work much......but his latest belch of a commentary brought it all back....Steve, what color is the sky in your world ? 

But just to play along, exactly what gives you cause to call Calipari the "most corrupt coach currently coaching in the NCAA" ?? He has exactly the same number of NCAA violations as Dean freaking Smith?? How much holier does he need to get ?? He has never had even ONE NCAA infraction....ever. He is as clean as any coach could possibly get in any sport. You got nothin' but a big mouth Steve......

And like Mark Twain said......better to keep your mouth shut and have people think you are an idiot than to open your mouth and remove all doubt. Get your facts together, you are like Bobby Knight.....a hater gone stupid.......

Since: Nov 28, 2007
Posted on: April 19, 2011 8:39 pm

When an idiot speaks, starring Bob Knight

Oh, hell, Gregg, Knight is just saying what Mike Slive should have been saying about Calipari all along. Wouldn't it be refreshing for the SEC to have a commissioner with a pair of big, salty balls instead of a girly-man like Slive?

Bitter much? I mean come on Slive did all he could to save Pearls arse for you guys. Even suspended him for eight conference games. In an attempt to shield him from more punishment from the NCAA....I did wonder why it wasn't ten though? Oh yeah that's right UT had to play Kentucky and Florida.

Anyway give it a rest man. You people come on here and run your damn chops about people you don't even have a clue who's really the idiots.

Calipari is making almost four million a year laughing his arse off while you're complaining about the SEC not having a commissioner with a "pair of big, salty balls"? First that's disgusting. Second is that some sort of.....nevermind you're a UT fan that explains it. Peace bro say hello to your wife/sis for me and tell my kids...I mean er....hi.

Now you know why they don't look like you've been obsessed with other dudes balls.

P.S. change the damn sheets.

Since: Nov 12, 2006
Posted on: April 19, 2011 8:21 pm

Good Knight

Oh, hell, Gregg, Knight is just saying what Mike Slive should have been saying about Calipari all along. Wouldn't it be refreshing for the SEC to have a commissioner with a pair of big, salty balls instead of a girly-man like Slive?

Since: Nov 28, 2007
Posted on: April 19, 2011 8:09 pm

When an idiot speaks, starring Bob Knight

And your's puzzles the hell out of me lee3022.

First you blast Doyel for stating the truth. Not something he made up, or even lied about. And it was brought on by Bobby Knight himself. Nobody twisted his arm and made him go to Wabash, Indiana and make up a bunch of lies to support his theories. As a matter of fact if you'd done a little research yourself instead of comparing this season to last season which is what Knight was speaking about you would've found that ALL of the Kentucky starting five where in good academic standing last year. Not one, or two, or even three. All of them. So you see when he stated that Kentucky played in the NCAA tournament last season with five starters that did not attend classes in the second semester he lied. There's no twisting of his words, or that he made a mistake, or even a freudian slip. He made it up. He didn't even check. And there's your answer.

And speaking of your point on "important data". First of all why are we even discussing this year? Why would you post a link to a new york times article comparing graduation rates as if it's the NCAA tournament? Sounds like a stretch of the imagination to me. Yet you turned right around in the last paragraph of your post and stated that you'd ignore obvious exaggerations because you're only interested in reality? Really? I mean which is it? Are we playing childrens games here with predictive samples and statistics or are you here just to discuss reality?

Because if it's reality you want then let's discuss why people go to college in the first place. To get a job right? In their chosen field. Right? Do you need a degree to play basketball professionally? Not the last time I checked. So in reality this whole discussion is about kids pursuing their goals and dreams of playing basket as a professional. Ok so who is better at facilitating those dreams than John Calipari. Hmmm. Maybe we should discuss age discrimination as well while we're at it since this is an NBA rule to begin with and the fact remains these kids are being discriminated against by current laws on the books in many of the states in this Country.

So don't try to patronize me with your higher principals and "cheater" comments without anything other than your own valued opinion of yourself as proof that the University of Kentucky isn't committed to education and seems content to get wins by any method when some of us know better.

And as far as Knights obvious point other than running down the University of Kentucky, John Calipari, it's amateur athlete's(which are kids) and it's fans, (in front of a bunch of Indiana fans in Wabash Indiana since that's what they crave and thrive on these days since they don't have a relevant basketball team anymore) nobody, not even UK fans, likes the one and done rule except the NBA owners. And even they seem to want a two and done rule. As for now we're stuck with it. But blaming anyone other than the group that made that rule for business decisions and purposes is a damn liar. And even then it's discriminatory and eventually will be rescinded by a court of law. Bank on it. It's coming. Lebron James and Kobe Bryant have already proven the NBA's logic is flawed and that college is not required to be successful at the professional level. And again many states have laws on their books protecting those 18 and above against age discrimination.

So what was Knights grand point? Was he using Kentucky, Calipari, the kids that play there for illustrative purposes? Or was he pandering to the crowd that he was in front of? Last time I checked Bobby Knight hated Kentucky for many being 15-18 overall against Kentucky...or destroying his change at a undefeated season in 1975....when he hit then Kentucky coach Joe B. Hall in the back of the head after Hall had turned around from shaking his hand.......Now that's a class citizen and the "Woody Hayes" of basketball as a fine example of a man to be teaching and influencing children isn't it. Can't whip em just waylay them--or the tried and true "shoot em in the back" that he uses for special "friends".

And as for your little bitter diatribe on Kanter being allowed to practice after the NCAA refused to reinstate him I think that's been covered ad nauseum around here but regardless of the ruling on Kanter. UK informed the NCAA of their intention to appoint him as a student/associate coach before he practiced so get your facts straight. And Calipari was cleared from any wrong doing by the NCAA in both the Memphis and the UMass situations so I don't have a clue which school you're referring to when you stated three schools and three final fours. Probably one of those Bobby Knight school of truisms again right...Just make the shat up as you go along.

But you go right ahead and listen to bitter SOB. Crawl right back up his arse where you belong. Just like any other mushroom where they feed you shait and keep you in the dark.

Since: Sep 4, 2006
Posted on: April 19, 2011 8:01 pm

When an idiot speaks, starring Bob Knight

What were the classes John Wall took to make honor roll?   You can make honor roll taking all P. E. courses if you know
you are going to be there for only one semester.   Bob Knight isn't very likeable, but he is right about Kentucky.

Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: April 19, 2011 7:41 pm

When an idiot speaks, starring Bob Knight

Yes, Bobby Knight used an all or none term, that does make him look bad.  Yes, Bobby Knight made a incorrect statement that went over the top to prove a point.  Are you going to throw stones Doyel?  It would be quite easy to find some over the top statements you made should I want to waste my time researching your commentaries which are nothing more than opinions with twisted facts and statements all over them.

The worst part about it is that unlike you Doyel, I ABSOLUTELY believe what Bob Knight was trying to point out.  I understand the argument he is making without picking on the ridiculous statement he made.  He made a politician-esque statement, and you are making a typical liberal media statement as in 'ignore the truth and focus on something far less significant rather than trying to correct it'.

The simple fact is that the one and done rule should be abolished as it is a joke.  And no, many of the top athletes probably don't attend class the second semester.  They take entry courses (like 4 PE courses and intro to the University) the first semester just to maintain a good GPA to qualify to play the second semester when the heart of the basketball season starts.  Everyone who has gone to school with these kids knows what is going on and the only people who state otherwise are the ones trying to protect their own school when they get busted.

This is not a Calipari issue (though he is the most corrupt coach currently coaching in the NCAA).  This happens at most schools that get top tier, one and done type of recruits.  It's just a fact that it's more visible with Calipari because he gets these types or recruits more than other coaches.  It's not Calipari's fault the system is so completely bankrupt.

One and done is a joke.  The NBA minimum draft age should be 100% illegal and barred from use.  I would much rather have NBA teams take a gamble on high schoolers than have the 'academic' nature of college brought to a low that even football doesn't go to ... even at Auburn and USC.

Since: Jan 17, 2008
Posted on: April 19, 2011 7:22 pm

When an idiot speaks, starring Bob Knight

I'll always defend Bob Knight, and I'll always hate UK, but the truth is Calapari isn't innocent, and niether is Knight. I think Wall and Patterson were good student athletes. Cousins and Bledsoe, I don't believe it one bit. So what Knight should have said is"2/3 of the 5 starting had not been to class...". Also you are making WAY to big a deal out of the Bob Knight thing. He isn't serious, and if you think he was being serious, YOURE THE IDIOT, not Knight.

To the Calapari "cheating" subject. I think UK fans and Doyel and Parrish are the only ones who doesn't see this. Don't you think that it's a little more than a coincidence, that the virtually the same thing happened at two different schools with the same coach. And I think Calapri virtually incriminated himself when he bolted out of Memphis just about the same time all this came out or just before.

If I'm a parent and don't care about my kids education, you just want them to have chance at making it to the NBA, you send them wherever Coach Cal is at.

If I'm parent and I want my kid to have a good education a good life outside of the sport, actually knowing what all the other kids in college learn, then I send them somewhere else. Because that's not Coach Cal. He recruits players, other, not all, coachers recruit kids and transform them into adults.

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