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When an idiot speaks, starring Bob Knight

Posted on: April 19, 2011 11:16 am
Edited on: April 19, 2011 11:17 am
 
You don't like Kentucky basketball coach John Calipari? Fine. You have ammunition.

Calipari recruits kids he knows will spend one or two years on campus, kids interested more in pursuing the NBA than their college degree, and if that's the sort of thing that bugs you, complain about that.

Calipari has taken three schools to the Final Four, and two of them had to vacate that appearance because of NCAA violations involving a player -- not a coach, but a player. But if that's the sort of thing you want to lay at the head coach's feet, fine. Lay it there. Complain about that.

But what you can't do -- what ESPN commentator Bob Knight did do the other day -- is ignore the pile of facts at your disposal and make up your own. And come up with your own half-truth or even your own outright lie, and use that to attack John Calipari.

But again, that's what Bob Knight did the other day when he defamed the entire starting five on Kentucky's team in 2009-10 by saying, "Kentucky (that season) started five players in the NCAA tournament games that had not been to class that semester."

Interesting statement. But an outright lie. It makes Calipari, who clearly isn't on Knight's list of people he likes, look bad. But it makes five young men look awful, and unfairly so. Because John Wall went to class that semester and made the honor roll. Patrick Patterson went to class that semester and earned his degree -- in his third year. I don't know what Kentucky's other three starters earned that semester, but if Knight thinks they didn't go to school, well, that's all I need to know to believe otherwise.

Because Bob Knight has no idea what he's talking about.

I'm not big on, "So-and-so owes an apology!" But today, Bob Knight owes an apology to John Calipari, and to Patrick Patterson, and to John Wall, and to the rest of Kentucky's starting five. He said something awful about them, something blatantly untrue, and he needs to correct it.

But he's a bad guy, so he won't say a damn thing unless ESPN makes him.

So that's where we stand. What's it going to be, ESPN?

You going to allow this?






Category: NCAAB
Tags: Bob Knight
 
Comments

Since: Apr 6, 2009
Posted on: April 19, 2011 2:53 pm
 

When an idiot speaks, starring Bob Knight

This may be a dumb question, but I don't know the answer.  Has Kentucky ever had an academic all american?  I looked it up under wikapaedia and found none.  Surely they had to have at least one.

If they havent, that says an awful lot.



Since: Nov 2, 2006
Posted on: April 19, 2011 2:49 pm
 

When an idiot speaks, starring Bob Knight

It's been documented that Bob Knight hates the one and done format of college basketball, and that he and John Calipari don't see eye to eye on the issue being that one and done is Cal's bread and butter.  That was what he was taking issue with, and if he can throw a jab at Calipari in the mean time, why not?  Knight may have had anger issues in the past, but he was never investigated for cheating and graduated players who not only played at the next level but went on to become outstanding men.  It's just more bashing of the greatest college basketball coach who ever lived.  People bash the Yankees too because they've won a lot.  It's normal.  People everywhere say they don't want to weed through BS when people speak, and Knight is as real as they come in a sports world where you don't know who to believe anymore.  He has always given his opinion and whether or not you agree with it, you have to respect the fact that he's a straight-shooter.  The truth is, certain NBA prospects like John Wall don't have to attend classes the second semester of their year in college.  But of course those players have all their academics on file.  I mean, we aren't talking about the same coach who had a player with an invalidated SAT score take his team to the national title game before he skipped out to greener pastures.  So I'm sure all the academic information for Wall and his buddies is completely accurate. 



Since: Aug 29, 2006
Posted on: April 19, 2011 2:47 pm
 

When an idiot speaks, starring Bob Knight

I'm not going to defend Coach Knight for saying what he said.  When someone of national recognition speaks, he should have his facts straight.  However, I won't sit back and defend Coach Cal either.  The facts are pretty plain and simple when it comes to his reputation for leaving programs just minutes ahead of the NCAA posse.  I'm not saying that he's guilty of any shady dealings at UK.....yet.  Perhaps he never put the program in that position (UK fans better hope).

The real issue to me is why the NCAA has chosen not to do anything about coaches that jump programs before sanctions are handed down.  Those coaches need to be held accountable for their actions.  They can't do much about the Pete Carrolls of the world that violate the rules and then head to a professional organization.  But to turn a blind eye at repeat offenders at the college level sets a dangerous precedence.  I'm all for second chances in life, but repeat offenders should be banned for life, call it "conduct detrimental to sports" or whatever.  If you cut a man's hands off for stealing, he's likely not going to steal again. 



Since: Jan 17, 2008
Posted on: April 19, 2011 2:43 pm
 

When an idiot speaks, starring UKfan68

Anyway it will be interesting to see how ESPN handles their "Woody Hayes" on this one.


WTF does Woody Hayes have to do with any of this?  Coach Hayes was a lot of things.  Some bad, but mostly good (overwhelmingly so).  But telling lies about those he disliked was definitely not a Woody Hayes thing.



Since: Dec 20, 2009
Posted on: April 19, 2011 1:25 pm
 

When an idiot speaks, starring Bob Knight

Doyel - I agree with you 100% here.  One thing I would like to know is if you are calling out Knight for jumping to conclusions w/out all the facts and asking him to apologize - will you do the same?    A few months ago when the NCAA suspended Perry Jones III of Baylor minutes before the Big 12 tournament game against Oklahoma - after the game Coach Drew defended his player and his family during the post game press conference.   Since then almost every major media outlet has defended Perry Jones and called out what's wrong with the NCAA.   Except you of course - within hours of Drew's press conference you jumped to conclusions and posted on Twitter for him to "shaddup" about Perry Jones.  W/out knowing all the facts you thought Baylor & Coach Drew were in trouble - what we found out days after is neither Baylor or Drew had anything to do with the NCAA violation with Perry Jones.   
So my question - will you be a hypocrite here and tell other people to publicly apologize when they make a mistake, but sit on your hands and hope it blows over when you do the same?   We all know you tried to spin the story to something about Coach Drew - but everyone knows by seeing trails of your articles and Twitter dates that you were flat out lying.   So again - can you swallow your pride and call Coach Drew and Perry Jones and apologize. After all he is 19 years old and you are the ONLY one I've seen who hasn't defended Perry Jones yet......



Since: Nov 28, 2007
Posted on: April 19, 2011 1:21 pm
 

When an idiot speaks, starring Bob Knight

Wow I have to admit I'm impressed Doyel. You guys(Parrish and Dodd as well) had me wondering if anyone was going to address his lies but seriously color me impressed. Since we all know Knight is a bully and will be looking for you now.

As for an apology to John Calipari or the Kentucky players even if he did he wouldn't mean it and he'll be right back in Indiana next summer telling everyone Kentucky and John Calipari is the devil. Because that's what they want to hear.

Personally I'd rather he just retire to Puerto Rico where he can fish and shoot his friends in the back and lie about it. Throw a few chairs, choke a few kids, drown some kittens maybe? 

Anyway it will be interesting to see how ESPN handles their "Woody Hayes" on this one. And watch your back dude and whatever you do don't go hunting with the old basturd. He always hits or shoots from behind....Joe Hall in '75 and that so called friend of his.....just sayin.



Since: Sep 26, 2008
Posted on: April 19, 2011 1:16 pm
 

When an idiot speaks, starring Bob Knight

ESPN will not do anything. It was not an ESPN sanctioned event, and he was not representing ESPN, but instead represented himself. Therefore, ESPN will simply sit silent and continue to watch this jackturd run his mouth.

For those who think Knight (I refuse to call him COACH KNIGHT) was kidding, simply watch the tape Youtube video, and you can see that he was NOT kidding.




Since: Apr 19, 2011
Posted on: April 19, 2011 12:51 pm
 

When an idiot speaks, starring Bob Knight

Admittedly I'm a UK fan.  I've also many times defended Bobby Knight though.  I agree with everything Doyle has written here.  There is plenty of amunition to criticize Kentucky, Calipari, and specifically the one and done situation.  It is not appropriate though for Knight as a paid member of ESPN to give out and out untruths and to convey them as truths.  It is not an exageration.  He explicitly said that none of the starting 5 attended class the whole semester.

Patrick Paterson was in the starting 5 and graduated in 3 years.  Darius Miller was another and is back this year for his junior year, still attending class.  John Wall was an honor roll student.  Further he said that they had 5 starters who were one and dones, and it was truly only 3.

I'm not one who is big on someone being fired, but I do think that ESPN needs to defend its journalistic integrity, even though this wasn't an ESPN sanctioned event.  They should come out clearly and say, as an institution that his comments do not speak for ESPN and they weren't true.  Beyond that, they should require Knight to speak to the situation.  But it isn't enough if they don't clearly say that the statement was untrue.

By the way, some have indicated Knight said this as a joke.  It clearly wasn't intended that way if you saw his delivery.  It was in answer to a question about the evils of one and dones.  Also, it did not generate laughs among the Indiana crowd.  It generated strong disapproval - apparently directed at what Knight implied were the "evil 5 one and dones in the starting lineup".  That's why it needs ESPN to strongly correct.



Since: Nov 25, 2007
Posted on: April 19, 2011 12:50 pm
 

When an idiot speaks, starring Bob Knight

Gregg Doyel is right on to call Bob Knight on the carpet. Knight's well documented track record is as a bully who throws chairs, pounds on the scorers table at an NCAA game to intimidate officials and gets away with it, badgers his players, grabs at least one in a much-publicized and videoed choke hold that was just about the last straw for Indiana's president who fired him, grabs another by the jersey n during a game, stuffs an LSU fan into a waste basket, intimidates a workman on a loading platform and throws a fit at a buffet in Lubbock, Texas.
  That's all of Knights indiscretions that I will list for now but they are clearly enough to land on the side of Doyel in this debate over a much discredited Knight. To be fired by the school that he made famous with his NCAA championship basketball teams indicates there was other behavior that was unacceptable by Indiana University. Another thing about Doyel. He's right to suggest that Knight will not apologize for his inaccuracies of Kentucky's player's class attendance that Doyel documented.
      



Since: Jan 2, 2010
Posted on: April 19, 2011 12:43 pm
 

When an idiot speaks, starring Bob Knight

He is an irrevelant old man with a deep hatred for Kentucky. Still not over all the butt whoppings he received by the Wildcats, especially the 75 regional final in Dayton that put a stop to his undefeated season. He is still a big bully trying to draw attention to himself by acting or saying really stupid things that are offensive and wrong.If there is a basketball god he will allow this a@#hole to get on an elevator with me going to the 20th floor. There are a few things I would like to say to this jerk and he wont be able to walk away! 


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