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Georgia Tech punishment bodes well for (t)OSU

Posted on: July 14, 2011 3:30 pm
Edited on: July 14, 2011 3:50 pm

Good Lord, I think Ohio State might just skate after all.

Look what happened to Georgia Tech, for a similar scandal only with a much more nefarious undertone. While OSU coach Jim Tressel himself was the culprit in the ultimately unsuccessful Ohio State cover-up of violations, and that's awful, the Big Ten school as a whole acted in an upright manner afterward:

Tressel was forced out, albeit more slowly than I would have liked. The school vacated every victory from the 2010 season. The best player involved, Terrelle Pryor, is gone even though he has eligibility remaining.

Compare that to Georgia Tech, which -- like Ohio State -- was guilty of using star players even after learning those players could be ineligible. And then, apparently, the Jackets made it worse by failing to cooperate completely with the NCAA's investigation. Check out this ominous sentence from the Georgia Tech report by the NCAA's Committee on Infractions:

"This case provides a cautionary tale of the conduct that member institutions should avoid while under investigation for violations of NCAA rules."

And for all that -- for playing knowingly ineligible players, then for displaying conduct member institutions should avoid -- Georgia Tech had to vacate a bunch of wins (as Ohio State already has done), face some recruiting restrictions and a fine, and deal with four years of probation.

Four years probation, four million years -- that won't stop the Jackets from playing on TV this season. Or from playing in a bowl game, should they win enough games to get there.

Georgia Tech just made like Neo in The Matrix and dodged a bullet.

Ohio State's next.

As usual, BCS cheaters win. They damn sure don't lose -- not postseason eligibility or TV appearances, which is the only punishment that would leave an actual mark.

Way to be firm, NCAA. I've already noted the strongly worded sentence in the statement by the Committee on Infractions, but the follow-through was flaccid. As usual.

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Since: Jul 19, 2011
Posted on: July 19, 2011 3:35 pm

Georgia Tech punishment bodes well for (t)OSU

lxUn1c0.. So strong Investigative journalism and facts are your thing?  I would believe you if by 28 players involved in the OSU violation you had said 7 and if by systemic loss of institutional control you had said "OSU did not get charged with a loss of institutional control".  Other then that, quite the ironic rant against the NCAA.

Since: Jul 16, 2011
Posted on: July 16, 2011 1:32 am

You are wrong... just wrong

Hope you don't get paid too much for writing false statements... yes the NCAA said we "failed to cooperrate completely".  Five minutes reading the actual violations and interviews by the NCAA show that they were twisting words the whole time.  Our compliance officer left and our presdient came out to say the guy wasn't able to handle the situation and wished we had done more.  

"Perhaps we should’ve done some things differently,” Peterson said. “He didn’t have a great deal of experience in issues like this, and I believe if we had to do this all over again we would’ve hired an outside consultant to advise us and serve as legal counsel.”

If we "failed to cooperate" as you put it, it was probably cause the NCAA came in twisiting people's words and digging, hopping they'd find more issues.  Go read the interview by the NCAA of Demarius Thomas.  The interview says "um" every other word and clearly fishes for certain responses.

Quite frankly, you are wrong.  To whomever respects this writer: go read other reports, the NCAA may have claimed we "failed to cooperate", but provide absolutely zero evidence to back up the claim.  

Maybe next time you write an article you should think about objectivity instead of your favorite football team. 

Since: Jul 15, 2011
Posted on: July 15, 2011 8:23 pm

Georgia Tech punishment bodes well for (t)OSU

"OSU did not commit the violations that GT did..." You're right. OSU's violations were WORSE. Even 10 minutes of research would reveal more facts of the case than were reported in this editorial. The problem is that the majority of news agencies are taking the NCAA's report and simply quoting or paraphrasing the incredibly hyperbolic, prejudicial language contained therein. Taking the NCAA's artistic license out of the picture and considering only the facts that have been revealed, here's what happened: One player may or may not have received $312 worth of clothes. He still maintains this did not happen. Even the people who say it did happen believe it was his cousin who gave him the clothes. This person happens to have a friend who works at a sports agency. As soon as GT's administration was alerted to an eligibility issue, they investigated, and their lawyer on staff told them the possible clothing donation came from a cousin, so they decided the athlete was eligible. Then, the NCAA decided to investigate and told the athletic director. The AD told the head coach, who told the athlete involved that the NCAA was going to come ask him some questions. After 20 months of investigating and no hard evidence, the NCAA decreed the player received improper benefits and that those notifications of investigation constituted a substantial cover-up. The NCAA got pissed that they went on a 20-month witch-hunt and got nothing substantial, so they tagged the administration with a "failure to cooperate with and hindering an investigation" charge and dropped these punishments. All of this over a single athlete and $312 worth of merchandise.

Compare that to OSU, where you have violations involving 28 players, according to the NCAA, and you have to instantly recognize that the scope of the violations is vastly different. In GT's case, it amounts to an isolated incident which no one is certain happened. In OSU's case, the problem was so widespread that it amounts to a systemic loss of institutional control. That doesn't matter to the media, though. All they see is "yet another major football program is breaking the rules" and they run with the story without doing any real investigative journalism. Such is life in our modern, editorial-driven news world.

Since: Aug 15, 2006
Posted on: July 15, 2011 9:54 am

Georgia Tech punishment bodes well for (t)OSU

Just as I knew it would happen, the liars are now twisting in the fake articles. OSU did not commit the violations that GT did and have been attacked nonstop.

Please note the self-reported by the OSU violations and reference the latest ruling from the NCAA. No matter how you twist it, OSU (as a university) has been on the ball.  They commited violations and have dealt with them correctly when the university found them.
Better send some more hitjob journalist to make up a few more stories about OSU. None of the other ones printed anything factual.

Since: Mar 10, 2008
Posted on: July 15, 2011 8:42 am

Georgia Tech punishment bodes well for (t)OSU

The media d-bags have it out for Ohio State since the University has been tight lipped for decades and does not talk to the press much. All of the sports behemouth's obsession with OSU has become quite comical.

On the flipside very little is mentioned of Oregon illegally recruiting and Auburn paying a recruit $200K; yet a player selling his property to someone is far more worse. Oh...but Tressel covered it up! He also got fired.

Since: Feb 9, 2011
Posted on: July 15, 2011 8:39 am

Georgia Tech punishment bodes well for (t)OSU

Screw the BCS. GO back to the AP poll and govern yourselves. This is the minor leagues for the NFL nothing more. If you are thinking about the "kids" they are the biggest violators in the bunch.  Hey USC what are your thoughts on Reggie Bush now?
Even if you paid the "kids" it would not make a difference in most cases. Most of these prspects are self-entitled asswads anyways. Cam Newtons father was getting 250,000 no matter if Cam was getting a meager stipend or not. Maybe, Pryor should have just blamed it on his father like Cam did.
Cam Newtons father outright sells his kids school commitment for a quarter of a million and Cam is untouched and it is swept under the rug. No Cam is the face of the NFL.
Pryor's sells some of "HIS" stuff that would never be important to a 21 year old for things he does want and he is crucified. If I was Tressel I would of sided with my athletes too. The systems is geared towards the system and not the kids. The atheletes love Tressel becasue he had their backs and thought of them over the BCS fat-cats.

The Problem is not GT, OSU, or Oregon. Its the GREEDY governing body. Either the schools should ban together and scrap the system and oust the BCS or run college football like what it really currently is. A free Training factory for the NFL.

Since: Jan 7, 2011
Posted on: July 15, 2011 1:20 am

Georgia Tech punishment bodes well for (t)OSU


Since: Sep 7, 2010
Posted on: July 14, 2011 11:41 pm

Georgia Tech punishment bodes well for (t)OSU

you people are sadly pathetic. you have not figured out the NCAA yet? They are worse than the mob. They punish who they want to control college football. Their backroom hanshakes and law breaking actions has left the sport with no integrity. Tech was never even posted on the NCAA website NOA board. All kept hush hush... unreal 

Since: Jul 14, 2011
Posted on: July 14, 2011 10:32 pm

Georgia Tech punishment bodes well for (t)OSU

How is it that the media has the nerve to demand Jim Tressel be fired. Not one media out let has used facts on this case. Every reporter is printing their opinion..their opinion. Who are these individuals that think they can demand anyone be fired. We should demand that Doyel, be fired for crappy reporting and wasting the public's time for crappy articles.. It will come out eventually that Jim Tressel asked his players about the violations..and it will come out that the players lied to him. He asked them, they told him "No". He moved on. In the end, Jim Tressel, did lie. I do not see how reporters can think, that Tressel, knew all of what was going on with his players, out side of the OSU campus. How is one man to know all of this. His compliance dept, is the one who failed. Amazing how reporters and a network, can villify one man, for things he can not be solely responsible for. The OSU athletic dept is the largest in the college athletics. OSU hung JT out to dry, to appease the media. JT is man enough to take responsibility for the University's failure. The athletic dept. failed JT. OSU failed JT. JT's termination was done to take the heat off of the University, and to get the MEDIA to back off. OSU should have stood their ground and kept JT in place.
Doyel should save this space for good responsible reporting, and not use it to vent personal opinions. Get a life. CBS Sports should be ashamed to print any of his trash. I thought CBS Sports was better than this.

Since: Jan 12, 2008
Posted on: July 14, 2011 9:33 pm

Georgia Tech punishment bodes well for (t)OSU

Doyel writes "Georgia Tech had to vacate a bunch of wins".  Wrong!!!! GTech had to vacate just ONE win (the ACC championship win).  In the 3 games that the ineligible player was used, GTech only won the ACC championship game.  The other two games were losses to Georgia and Iowa in a bowl game.

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