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Carson gets what he wants. So why am I happy?

Posted on: October 18, 2011 10:43 am
Edited on: October 18, 2011 10:50 am
I was going to be mad. How mad? Ballistic. The Bengals were trading Carson Palmer today to the Raiders, that was the news, and I was going to be furious with Bengals owner Mike Brown for letting Palmer get what he wants.

But then I heard what the Bengals are set to receive for Palmer.

Two first-round picks? Two? OK, anger subsided. Palmer gets what he wants, yes, but the Bengals got more than they deserved. Palmer isn't worth two No. 1 picks, not anymore, not with his knee surgically repaired and his elbow a question mark and his pilot light flickering where a competitive fire ought to be raging.

Two No. 1's?


Sometimes the bad guys win, and Palmer -- quitter, baby -- is the bad guy in this scenario. Mike Brown is rarely the good guy in any scenario, but he's the good guy now. He played hardball with Palmer, and won. Brown will want to remember this day. He hasn't won like this since he was born, silver-spoon style, into one of the first families of football 74 years ago. And I doubt he remembers that.

But Brown won this go-around. The Raiders get a quarterback and Palmer gets to play some more, but I'm not concerned with those guys. I'm a Cincinnati guy, and Cincinnati owner Mike Brown just used Carson Palmer to crush the Raiders.

Now, if only Brown would quit while he's ahead and hire a general manager to make those picks for him ...

Category: NFL

Since: Aug 23, 2007
Posted on: October 18, 2011 12:46 pm

Carson gets what he wants. So why am I happy?

Seriously. If Carson Palmer plays so that the 2013 conditional pick is a 1st, then it was a successful trade for the Raiders. When you get a proven QB with a successful track record worth the 1st round pick they used for him, that is always going to be worth 2 ?s. IF we kept those picks who says we don't get a couple of flops? Both teams win here. That's why the trade happened. Our alternative option was to sit and pray Boller does enough to win and not get hurt. Then maybe we make the palyoffs. Then hope we get a few good players in drafts that can contribute right away? Forget that. We are nearly a finished product. We need to win now. Thge fact that an injured Jason Campbell lit a fire to get Carson Palmer is a bonus. Our backs were up against it, and luckily Brown agreed. It was a necessary evil. I would give up a #1 every day of the week and keep my round 2-5 picks.

Since: Sep 12, 2007
Posted on: October 18, 2011 12:29 pm

Carson gets what he wants. So why am I happy?

Actually Captain Dingaling spider monkeys are very smart. Probably smarter than you and I both. And what did Dillon do after he left Cincy? He might have a ring, but he certainly didn't do anything to deserve one. I agree with Doyel, this is win-win for the Bengals!!!

Since: Aug 29, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 12:24 pm

Carson gets what he wants. So why am I happy?

They drafted Andy Dalton last year in the 2nd and he has led them to a 4-2 record thus far and looks good while doing it.  Why would they even consider drafting Andrew Luck?!?  Some people just don't think before they post...
You can't be serious with this post....4-2 doesn't mean squat.  Why even consider drafting Luck?  Well, when you hear he has the highest QB rating of any quarterback since Elway that's why.  You'd have a possibility of having a better quarterback than anybody else in the North. 

Since: Oct 9, 2008
Posted on: October 18, 2011 12:24 pm

Carson gets what he wants. So why am I happy?

Also, the Bengals will no doubt waste those picks in accordance with past decisions

Tell you like I told someone else.. Since 2005 1st Rd Picks.

05 David Pollack. If not for a neck injury would still be in the league.
06 Johnathan Joseph. Very good CB that was one of the top free agents last year.
07 Leon Hall. Having a great year and has come into form.
08 Keith Rivers. Pretty good LB that has led the team in tackles a few times.
09 Andre Smith. Pretty sure him and Whitworth just held studs to 0 tackles and no sacks last week.
10 Jermaine Gresham. Very good TE and was a leading receiver last year.
11 AJ Green. If I even have to tell you about him well you haven't watched much football this year.

So are you referring to duds from 6 years ago? Carson was a 1 in 03 so I'm confused of which 1st round duds? Unless you are talking about bust from over a decade ago.

Since: May 1, 2007
Posted on: October 18, 2011 12:15 pm

Carson gets what he wants. So why am I happy?

How are we going to compete?  With the same team we have now.  This isn't a team full of aging washed-up players.  Check out the's loaded with players under 27.  The WR corp, our RB's, the OL, the LB's, the entire secondary, the DE's...ALL young and still on the upswing of their career.  This is a team that is actually set up to miss some draft picks for one year.

We actually have a lot of dead money coming off the books and we only have a couple of FA this year.  We are actually in really good shape.

While 2 firsts is a lot to give, this was the best alternative.  There were no other QB's out there and we weren't going to be picking high enough in the draft in 2012 to land one of the premier prospects.    &

Since: Feb 28, 2011
Posted on: October 18, 2011 12:12 pm

Carson gets what he wants. So why am I happy?

Great move!! For the Steelers that is! I am a Steelers fan and I am happy for both sides. The Raiders have been a past threat to the Steelers, just gave up any chance of getting a great quarterback in the next couple of drafts. Palmer is ok, damaged and face-it a quitter. He will quit again at some point when the going gets tough! Also, the Bengals and Browns will no doubt waste those picks in accordance with past decisions. Two more possible Steeler foes done for awhile!! Great Job for both organizations!!

Since: Aug 28, 2011
Posted on: October 18, 2011 12:11 pm

Carson gets what he wants. So why am I happy?

Do yell again proves he is a Yodellhead. , A Quitter because Palmer wanted out of Cincy (like most players who play there) guess Corey Dillon was a quitter also ? Doyell my good man you do not have the Brains that God gave to a Spider Monkey. !!!

Since: Mar 22, 2008
Posted on: October 18, 2011 12:01 pm

Carson gets what he wants. So why am I happy?

yeah, keep telling yourself that Serphnx...   a "legit" superbowl contender?   it's going to take the Bengals 4 years to match the number the Raiders get in ONE year?    

so tell me oh sage,  how are the Raiders going to compete next year at all?   they're breaking the salary cap this year and now have, what, two picks next year?

oh, and the Bengals have 4 wins so far,  so unless the Raiders win out completely, the Bengals will have more wins over the next four years than the Raiders do. 

Since: May 9, 2007
Posted on: October 18, 2011 11:58 am

Carson gets what he wants. So why am I happy?

Dalton's beat Indy, Cleveland and Jax'ville and loss to Denver. That not too much to be excited aboutcome back weel 10 and tell me how good he's doing.

Since: Dec 21, 2006
Posted on: October 18, 2011 11:50 am

Carson gets what he wants. So why am I happy?

I thought it was one first rounder and one conditional first rounder. So the bengals are really only getting 1st rounder guaranteed.

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