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Meyer to the Buckeyes

Posted on: November 28, 2011 8:27 am
Urban Meyer has come out of retirement again to become the football coach at Ohio State, opening himself to mocking by most of the country -- but assuring that Ohio State will make a quick return to national power.

Meyer is that good.

And his story, of course, is that bizarre.

After retiring from Florida in 2009 for a whole day, then retiring again in 2010 for a whole year -- to be with family, he said -- Meyer is back on the sideline according to his most recent employer, ESPN, which reported the deal to be worth $40 million over seven years.

Seven years, $40 million ... sound familiar? It should. Those were the reported terms of this hire a week ago, when Meyer said he hadn't spoken to Ohio State and that no offer had been made. Of course he was using semantics, which will get him crushed today, just as his "retirement for family" will get him crushed today.

Those are valid points, but do not miss the bigger picture: Urban Meyer is a damn good football coach. Ohio State is a damn good football program. Together, they will do special things.

Category: NCAAF

Since: Dec 3, 2006
Posted on: November 28, 2011 1:20 pm

Meyer to the Buckeyes

It's funny how when he was at FL all the same people who were calling him slimy and "urban cryer" are the same people now celebrating and calling him their savior.
That's funny.  I forgot all about how everyone up there hated him for "lobbying" to prevent a rematch in 2006 but now some of those same people are thrilled to no end that he is their coach.  There is a word that comes to mind for someone who displays this sort of behavior but it escapes me.  Can anyone help me with this?

Since: Aug 16, 2006
Posted on: November 28, 2011 10:09 am

Meyer to the Buckeyes

BTW Rev, I also agree with you that Gene Smith needs to go.  As I recall, one of the major reasons he was hired was because of his 18 years of experience working on the NCAA Infractions Committee.  I believe he did a good job of navigating OSU through the dealings with the NCAA once problems were discovered, but I also believe he flat out fell on his face from a PR/Media Relations standpoint.  Worse yet, for a guy with his experience, he did a lousy job of preventing compliance problems.

Since: Aug 16, 2006
Posted on: November 28, 2011 10:01 am

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Rev, I could not agree more that Fickell was not ready to be head coach, but the D was going to suffer a bit regardless of who was coaching.  This was an exceptionally young group, with only two returning Senior starters for leadership.  With Nathan Williams being one of them, and lost to injury for the season, there was a leadership void and it was a major loss for the D-Line from a talent/experience standpoint.  I think this was a huge hit for an already very inexperienced D.  Andrew Sweat did a fine job, but he too was injured and out for the key games down the stretch. 

Kudos to Luke for seeing the program though a very tough situation.  I thought he performed well as a co-DC in the past, so I have no reason to doubt that he would be a very good DC.

Since: Sep 26, 2010
Posted on: November 28, 2011 9:41 am

Meyer to the Buckeyes

What part of this article is not true?  He did retire for a day from UF for health reasons.  He did retire again the next year for the same and it lasted a year.  He did deny claims all week that he was the head coach for OSU as did his agent.  He has now pulled a Saban and is announcing it shortly after denying all of the rumors.  That is fine and he has a right to do this but the part that I don't understand is all of the cloak and dagger.  If he is working on cutting a deal with them, why deny it?  Why not simply say that he has spoken with the university and he would let everyone know when a decision is made?

----- The article is clearly slanted towards the negative.  Its not so much that lies are being told (never said anything about the truth), its that only certain facts are being presented.

As for why "all the cloak and dagger"....... who knows?  Who cares?  Why is that important?  He has a right to announce in any way he wishes.  Perhaps he and the school wished to release the information AFTER the OSU-Michigan game.  Again, who knows?  This sort of thing is par for the course.

Since: Jul 17, 2007
Posted on: November 28, 2011 9:34 am

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Dear lord, let's hope that Fickell is not the new D.C.  Praise to Fickel for stepping into an impossible situation and never publicly complaining, but the level of confusion he displayed all season was alarming.  He only seemed to have a grasp of his surroundings when he was two scores ahead.  Except of course in Nebraska.  He showed a complete inability to adjust his game plans or schemes when it became obvious they were not working. 

Most importantly, despite all the talk about TOSU's of offensive woes, which were to be expected this year, the defense was the true disappointment this year.  And, Fickell is considered a "defensive" coach.  Sure, TOSU lost a number of players on the defensive side of the ball and the injury to Nathan Williams didn't do the D any favors.  Nonetheless, turnover in college football is constant.  TOSU's defense has always managed to excell even after losing a majority to graduation or suffering through injuries.  Until, this year when Fickell held the reins. 

Thanks again to Fickell for stepping in, but let's be honest, this extended interview showed us one important thing- Fickell is not yet ready to be any type of Coach/Coordinator other than "Assistant." 

Since: Aug 16, 2006
Posted on: November 28, 2011 9:22 am

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Has OSU even announced what is happening to Luke Fickel?  It's one thing to for Meyer to lie all week about accepting the OSU job, it's another to announce you've accepted the job before anything comes out about their current (interim) coach.  Not a very classy move, imo....

Dude, this is exactly why OSU wanted to keep a lid on the story until the season was completed.  Meyer did not lie, but he did parse words, no doubt because he knew OSU did not want the story to be released until this week.  This is a common ocurrence when it comes to coaching changes, so lets not get overly critical of either Meyer or OSU.  The scuttlebutt in Columbus is Fickell was given parameters before the season as to what it would take for him to be named head coach, but there would always be a position for him whether he was named head coach or not.  Rumor has it that Fickell will be Meyer's Defensive Coordinator.

Since: Jul 17, 2007
Posted on: November 28, 2011 9:15 am

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People, People, People, you all act as if this is the first time a coach - or potential coach - has used semantics to avoid answering a question, or just plain lied in his answer.  It's not.  Remember Nick Saban?  While at MSU Saban was "not interviewing" at LSU-a week later he was gone to the Bayou.  Then he was "not talking to" Miami- same result.  Then he was "not interested" in leaving South Beach - third time's a charm.  This is how the system works.  It's part of the culture.  It's reality. 

The interesting thing is, that once Meyer is in place in C-Bus and if he has the success that everyone expects he will none of you - or at least a vast majority of people outside Gainesville - will have forgiven Meyer and will be focused only on his accomplishments.  Most will even be praising him, if indeed he can bring a National Championship back to C-Bus.  But while so many of you rail against Meyer's supposed hypocrisy, none of you will see the hypocrisy in you own turn around of opinion-- Rembember Nick Saban?

All in all this a great hire for TOSU and almost everything the Buckeye football program needed.  Almost.  Now that they have Meyer, the only thing left is to deal with the fool of an A.D. Gene Smith.   Smith has mishandled everything that has come his way over the past 10 months including how he handled the hiring of Meyer.  Don't be surprised if it eventually comes out that Smith is at least partially to blaime for Meyer's hedging statements.

As an administrator Smith is a joke.  As an Ohio State Alumus I demand his immediate departure.  If only I had the milions of dollars necessary to actually influence that decision and send Smith packing.  I don't, and although I love TOSU and wear it on my sleeve, I have little faith left in its leaders to make the obvious move.

Since: Aug 16, 2006
Posted on: November 28, 2011 9:06 am

Meyer to the Buckeyes

If he is working on cutting a deal with them, why deny it?  Why not simply say that he has spoken with the university and he would let everyone know when a decision is made?

Why?  Because OSU wanted to do right by Fickell and wait until the season was complete before announcing a coaching change.  Unfortunately, nobody could keep a lid on the story.

Since: Jan 8, 2007
Posted on: November 28, 2011 9:01 am

Meyer to the Buckeyes

He's going to come out like a house on fire. They will win big out the gate. But he won't be able to keep it up, he flames out. It's funny how when he was at FL all the same people who were calling him slimy and "urban cryer" are the same people now celebrating and calling him their savior. He's going to burn another team yet again. He's a good coach, not many dispute that. But he has other issues.

Since: Feb 14, 2008
Posted on: November 28, 2011 9:00 am

Meyer to the Buckeyes

Urban Meyer will not fulfill the terms of his contract.  Within two years he will retire again.
This isnt a long-term solution for ohio. 

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