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Is this how it begins?

Posted on: July 29, 2008 10:04 am

Something is happening to professional sports in this country, and that something isn't good.

First, elite hockey players have been abandoning the NHL for deals overseas. Now, NBA players are turning down big-time NBA money to play across the Atlantic, too.

For decades -- forever, really -- the United States has been the place to be for professional athletes. In all the major sports except for soccer, If you were the best at your trade, you wanted to prove it here. But now NHL players are leaving, and NBA players are leaving, and at some point will we see a big-time MLB player turn down millions here to play in Japan?

Maybe we will. Because something is happening to professional sports in this country, and that something isn't good.

Category: NBA

Since: Aug 15, 2007
Posted on: July 30, 2008 6:49 pm

Is this how it begins?

 No. It began with the outsoursing of our decent paying jobs.

Since: Apr 3, 2008
Posted on: July 30, 2008 3:51 pm

Is this how it begins?

the issue is that our economy is wavering and we are no longer the richest most attractive place to play.

Since: Nov 3, 2006
Posted on: July 30, 2008 2:04 pm

Is this how it begins?

I don't think many NHL fans will cry about having more American players in the NHL.  I think the game was more fun when Canadians and American's were the majority.

I also think losing a few players to foreign basketball leagues will not hurt the NBA.  We are trying to spread the love of NBA across the globe anyway.

On baseball, we were worried about players leaving for Japan back in the 1980's.  But Japan instead invested trillions of dollars in US real estate, there stock market collasped under the weight of the bad investments (sound familiar?), and hasn't recovered in 25 years.  Therefore we have been buying their best players for the last fifteen years. 

So don't worry.  Either way, I am especially excited about Hockey becoming a North American sport again.

Since: Dec 18, 2006
Posted on: July 30, 2008 1:21 pm

Is this how it begins?

All major sports? not really. If you look, we're only talking about the NHL and NBA as these are the only 2 major sports that is as popular in the US as in other parts of the world too. MLB, besides Japan, I don't see any other countries that can pay the MLB players as much as the US teams can, so I think we're safe , for now.Personally, i think its a good thing, from the players perspective. First of all, since we're talking about the pros, money talks. So obviously these players will go to where ever the money takes them, the more the better. Secondly, why would some of these players wants to play second fiddle if they can become a star else where? Third, believe it or not, the rest of the world is catching up on the level / quality of play in NHL and NBA. The NHL is already a given just base on the number of gold medals in the Olympics or world championship that is won by the US team, we can count it with less than one hand for both combine. And as far as the NBA goes, winning the gold is no more an automatic thing for the US in the Olympics or even the World Basketball Championship. Because of this, we no longer take things for granted and the pro sports team now have to start thinking about the "other" league in the world therefore have to be more competitive not just with money but also with what the role of the players will be on the team. If they are pretty good but sitting on the bench too long, guess its safe to say "sayonara".
You're right, something is happening to professional sports in this country, and that something IS good.

Since: Nov 30, 2007
Posted on: July 30, 2008 12:17 pm

Is this how it begins?

After reading many of these comments, I am encouraged by fans' understanding of what's going on here:

1.  Many foreign players who have always wanted to play with the best in American sport leagues are realizing that they supposed greater talent (more in the NHL) is not worth being closer to home and better purchasing power.  I don't blame them . . .

2.  Possible semistars (Childress, Nenad), someone called them fringe players, are signing short term deals for more money to get better minutes on the floor.  In 3 years, Childress will be able to sign a new NBA contract with $5 million more dollars in his bank account.  I don't blame him, as long as he can handle the culture and language change. 

Since: Dec 19, 2006
Posted on: July 30, 2008 10:59 am

Is this how it begins?

This is absolutely economics 101.  The value of the Euro dollar is 1.61:1.  That means if they sign a deal for 10 Million a year then they make 16.1 Million US dollars.  The Greek club which signed Childress (Olympiacos) is very competitive, and is in arguably the most competitive league in the Euro's.  That being said, there is another benefit to signing in Europe.  No US income tax.  Why would a mid-level athlete not want to sign in Europe for much bigger bucks than here and get gouged close to 35% of their income at that tax bracket.  Granted, they don't get out scott free as they get hit with another countries taxes, but those are going to be invariably lower than US law.  Childress didn't sign a deal making 21 Million US dollars like most say.  He is going to make 21 Million US dollars after taxes.  According to John Hollinger, that's 3 Million per year more than he was offered by the Hawks.

So, there are lots of reasons to go Euro and most mid-level and developing international NBA stars have already gone.  It makes a lot of sense and dollars for these guys to go back to the Euro leagues that made them famous.

Who's fault is this?  I don't know, but it has more to do with our laws and weak dollar than anything.  If you could make a lot more money playing for as an entire country's star athlete as opposed to one US city, wouldn't you?

Since: Aug 30, 2006
Posted on: July 30, 2008 10:18 am

Is this how it begins?

Isn't this a economics issue more than a basketball issue?  The value of the dollar has plummeted so much that European teams can now compete in their offers to free agents - not to mention some Euro Teams are willing to pay the income tax for the player (Josh Childress).

Since: Mar 27, 2008
Posted on: July 29, 2008 5:30 pm

Is this how it begins?

Maybe the problem is the leauge is too saturated w/talent & it's getting harder for a good player to get recognized so they are being approched by the foreign scouts & they are offering them an opportunity to be a starter where if they stay here they just aren't going to get that opprutunity right away if at all. That's just a thought. I know alot more of our soccer players who are from the US are taking the trip abroad but it's more of an opportunity to play against the best because in that sport which is one of the oldest sports in the world kids are being recruited at 7-8 yrs of age to be on a developemental team & the team will take care of an entire family just because they know the kid is going to be a star so you can make alot of money & get to play the best in the world. Basketball if you noticed the other countries are definitely doing a much better job in competing against the us. But as far as someone from the bronx or chicago or one of the major cities heading overseas to play I can't see that happening the way of life is way too different plus alot of them have never left there own back yards let alone going to another country just to play ball. I doubt it's really a big trend it's just a few that maybe wanna find out what it's like they have heard some strories so they wanna wet there beaks or there just tired of the politics that go along w/some of the teams here. That's just my opinion.

Since: Aug 13, 2007
Posted on: July 29, 2008 5:06 pm

Is this how it begins?

Yea, you are completly right. This is all BUSH'S fault!

HAHA, you are an idiot just like everybody else who falls for Obama's Change and Hope speeches which don't mean @#$% to today's intellectuals. 


Where did that come from?

It probably came from some dude down south whose idea of an intellectual is someone who stays in eigth grade long enough to be able to compose one post per biannum, but I'm sure Gregg can look the guy up and fill the rest of us in during his next installment of Malicious Mail.

As far as sports leagues poaching domestic talent goes, I have to agree with the posters who say it's not time to panic yet; I for one don't feel threatened by hockey leagues that "steal" the washed up Jaromir Jagrs and Chris Simons of the world.

Since: Dec 25, 2006
Posted on: July 29, 2008 4:16 pm

Is this how it begins?

I'm the best, Warped. The best. Maybe you should get with the program.

And Freeman's not bad. Well, he's not terrible.


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