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Of the #4 seeds, Xavier got hosed!

Posted on: March 20, 2009 7:24 pm
Edited on: March 20, 2009 7:29 pm

I posted on a thread earlier this week about Xavier's matchup against Portland State. It's going to be a good game, set to tip shortly. But, the more I think about it, the more I believe that, among the #4 seeds in this year's tournament, Xavier got hosed by the Committee.

#4 Washington travels to Portland, Oregon. #4 Gonzaga travels to Portland, Oregon. #4 Wake Forest travels to Miami, Florida. #4 Xavier travels to . . . Boise, Idaho??? Boise flippin' Idaho?? This is virtually a home game for Portland State. What advantage does playing there give Xavier, while all the other #4 seeds get easy travel?

What's wrong with this picture? And why was Xavier singled out for such shabby treatment? Anybody?




Since: Oct 12, 2007
Posted on: April 6, 2009 7:15 am

Of the #4 seeds, Xavier got hosed!

jake -- I agree with your main point, that Xavier is good enough not to lose to Portland St., and they proved that. However, I wholeheartedly disagree that they should have to travel THAT FAR, more or less giving Portland St. a home game, in my opinion, when the other three #4 seeds had it much easier travel-wise. Sure, they should have to travel, but couldn't the Committee have found somewhere else closer to put Xavier? And no, you can't make everybody happy, but I think the point stands. Of the four #4 seeds, Xavier got the worst deal of them all travel-wise.


Since: Dec 29, 2008
Posted on: April 5, 2009 7:34 pm

Of the #4 seeds, Xavier got hosed!


Actually, Butler got hosed. Butler beat Xavier in their head-to-head matchup earlier this season. It is impossible to make everybody happy in the NCAA tournament and if Xavier is so good why would traveling make them lose to Portland St. They have enough experience to not lose to PORTLAND ST.

Since: Oct 12, 2007
Posted on: March 23, 2009 12:42 pm

Of the #4 seeds, Xavier got hosed!

I'm looking forward to the Xavier/Pitt game. I think the Musketeers match up well against the Panthers. I didn't get into any pools or do a bracket here, but I did them with my family, and I picked Xavier to go to the Final Four against North Carolina, with Lousville v. Purdue on the other side, and Louisville and North Carolina for all the marbles, with Louisville to win it all.

The way Xavier has played, I think they can beat Pitt. I have Villanova beating Duke to go up against Xavier in the Elite Eight. THAT would be another outstanding game.

I ended up with 12 of the Sweet Sixteen picked, and my Elite Eight and Final Four still intact after this weekend, so I'm happy!


Since: Oct 12, 2007
Posted on: March 23, 2009 12:49 am

Of the #4 seeds, Xavier got hosed!

You're right, Trea. Xavier made sure it didn't matter. But I do think they were treated shabbily. As a #4 seed, they shouldn't have had to play that far away or that much closer to their opponent's home, especially when you're talking about a #4 going up against a #13. Do you think Portland State bussed to the game, or took a plane? Other advtantages figure in to my thinking, too, including time zone and altitude, which was mentioned during commentary in the games. Believe me, I would say the same for any other team in such a situation. Either everybody gets the same advtantages due them for the seed they have, or they need to re-formulate the system.




Since: Dec 11, 2006
Posted on: March 22, 2009 11:34 pm

Of the #4 seeds, Xavier got hosed!

I will agree with the above that it is not a perfect system.  Far from it.  Still better than having no playoff at all though (college football!!!)! 

Did they get hozed?  I wouldn't go so far to say they got shabby treatment.  Yes, a 4 seed should get better but this is (was) far from a home game for Portand State.  Thats 430 miles from Boise to Portland.  6 1/2 to 7 hour drive.  And it's not like Portland State is a huge school.  Texas has more students in the freshman class than Portland State has undergrads.  Marquette had it just as bad there.  Xavier should have played closer to home in a perfect world.  I think they could do a better job of spreading out the venues involved in the tourney.  Choosing Boise and Portland for regionals was a bonehead move to begin with, should have gone with one or the other.  But it is not the first time a lower seed played closer to a game then their higher seeded opponent. #3 Kansas had to travel up to Minneapolis to play North Dakota State and Fargo is much closer to Mpls than Lawwrence is.

Sucks when your team, or a higher seed, has to travel that far but those are the breaks.  At least Xavier came out of it.


Since: Aug 30, 2008
Posted on: March 21, 2009 12:15 pm

Of the #4 seeds, Xavier got hosed!

 I completely agree, X got hosed big time and imho the entire system is ridiculously flawed.

That being said, I know exactly why it happened to X and not Zaga, Wash, or Wake.

X was the #4 4 seed, meaning they get last pick. say Wake gets first pick, Miami.

Zaga 2nd, Portland, Washington 3rd, Portland. X gets the leftover which is Boise. Very lame, good win by X though, if they can find a way to beat Wisconsin now, they come back east for more friendly confines.

Since: Oct 12, 2007
Posted on: March 20, 2009 11:19 pm

Of the #4 seeds, Xavier got hosed!

Xavier did what they had to do to make sure it didn't matter, but I stand by what I posted. The Committee has some 'splaining to do!

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