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Top 15 Prospects: NL East Re-Wrap Up

Posted on: November 21, 2008 3:17 pm
Edited on: November 30, 2008 6:25 pm
 

NL East Top 15 Prospects Wrap Up

Top 15 Prospects: NL East Team Rankings

5. New York Mets – 46%

4. Washington Nationals – 49%

3. Philadelphia Phillies – 53%

2. Atlanta Braves – 65%

1. Florida Marlins – 84%

Top 25 Prospects of the NL East

25. Reese Havens SS Nym

Havens was taken in the sandwich portion of the first round of the 2008 draft. Havens is a likely second basemen in the future, he will play good defense there, and hit for a solid average, and some power.

24. Michael Burgess OF Was

A bad 2008 season, but still has a lot of tools, specifically his power, and arm strength.

23. Eddie Kunz RHRP Nym

Already has made his debut for the Mets, the Mets are looking externally for their next closer, but Kunz will be back towards the back-end of their rotation again in 2009. If he shores up his command he could make for a great closer.

22. Freddie Freeman 1B Atl

Really young, but has been one of the best offensive players in his league thus far. I jumped him up to the fourth ranked prospect in the Braves’ organization since last ranking their prospects.

21. Sean West LHSP Fla

West is the best starting pitcher in the Marlins’ system.  He throws a mid 90s fastball with some movement, and a power breaking pitch.  Some scouts think he is headed to the bullpen because of his awkward arm action but, I still think he can be a number two or three starter.

20. Jon Niese LHSP Nym

Niese has a killer curveball. I also see him as a number three starter.

19. Zach Collier OF Phi

Collier is athletic, and a potential 5-tooler from the 2008 draft. Collier has a ton of ability, but he is too raw right now to get a good read on him for the future.

18. Kyle Drabek RHSP Phi

Drabek has outstanding stuff, and he has recovered from Tommy John Surgery. I expect him to soar through the Phillies system, and this list next season.

17. Logan Morrison 1B Fla

You said it, and I listened. I have moved Morrison up to the 7th top prospect in Florida's system. Which allows him to be moved onto this list.

16. Chris Coghlan 2B Fla

Coghlan does most things well – except hit for power. That will make him an above-average second basemen, as early as next season if Uggla is moved from second, or traded.

15. Lou Marson C Phi

Had a breakout season offensively, and has always had the defensive capabilities to be a major league catcher. There is not anyone in Philadelphia standing in his way.

14. Kyle Skipworth C Fla

A four-tool catcher, Skipworth was taken with the sixth pick in the 2008 draft. He has a ton of raw power, and should become one of the best offensive catchers in baseball one day. He is extremely raw, so expect the Marlins to take their time with him.

13. Ryan Tucker RHRP Fla

The best reliever on this list, Tucker has great velocity, and command. Although, Matt Lindstrom is going to start the season replacing Kevin Gregg as the Marlins’ closer, I expect Tucker to finish the season with the job.

12. Matt Dominguez 3B Fla

One of my favorite prospects in all of baseball Dominguez is an exceptional fielder, he also mashed in his first pro season, hitting an unexpected 18 homeruns, while also hitting for a .296 average, and striking out only 68 times.

11. Ike Davis 1B/OF Nym

Another 2008 draftee, Davis has plus, plus power potential. I would love to see him as a corner outfielder, but he may be trapped at first, we’ll see. He should move through the system though.

10. Fernando Martinez OF Nym

I am not high on Martinez. He has lost a lot of his value, as he is not an exceptional fielder, and has not shown power in the minors. He still has a lot of potential, but his clock is ticking.

9. Chris Marrero 1B Was

A great hitter, but was hampered by injuries in 2008. He is also saddled to first base.

8. Jordan Zimmerman RHSP Was

I love this guy. He had a great statistical year in 2008, and throws a plus hard sinker, as well as three other average pitches. He is a front of the rotation starter.

7. Tommy Hanson RHSP Atl

Hanson throws a mid 90s fastball, and a plus, plus curveball. He is only 22, and already pitching well in AA. Hanson struck out 163 batters during the 2008 season.

6. Jordan Schafer OF Atl

Is no longer one of the best prospects in baseball, but Schafer is still a gold glove defender, with a lot of upside on offense – he could be a 20-20 guy every year.

5. Ross Detwiler LHSP Was

Detwiler is still a little raw, but has ace type stuff, with a large arsenal of pitches. He should be starting for Washington by 2010.

4. Carlos Carrasco RHSP Phi

Another personal favorite, Carrasco finished the season in AAA at the age of 21. He had a great season overall, and has absolutely dominating stuff, including a plus, plus changeup, and top notch fastball.

3. Mike Stanton OF Fla

Stanton hits a lot of homeruns, but strikes out even more frequently. He is extremely athletic in the outfield. He is still only 19, so he has plenty of time to refine his game. He has a lot of potential.

2. Cameron Maybin OF Fla

Still one of the best prospects in baseball, Maybin will be starting for the Marlins at some point next season. He still is a little bit of a mystery to me, and strikes out a lot.

1. Jason Heyward OF Atl

I have nothing bad to say about Heyward. He is only 19, but you can already get a good idea of what he is going to be in the big leagues. I said it in my Braves article, and I will say it again here .300 batting average, 30 HRs, 20 stolen bases, while playing great defense. What else can you ask for?

NL East First Team All-Prospect

SP Carlson Carrasco
SP Ross Detwiler
SP Tommy Hanson
SP Jordan Zimmerman
SP Jon Niese
CL Ryan Tucker

C Kyle Skipworth
1B Ike Davis
2B Chris Coghlan
SS Wilmer Flores Nym
3B Matt Dominguez Fla
OF Jason Heyward
OF Cameron Maybin
OF Mike Stanton
Honorable Mention: Logan Morrison

NL East Second Team All-Prospect

SP Kyle Drabek
SP Sean West
SP Joe Savery
SP JA Happ
SP Josh Smoker
CL Eddie Kunz
C Lou Marson
1B Chris Marrero
2B Reese Havens
SS Anthony Hewitt
3B Jason Donald

OF Jordan Schafer
OF Fernando Martinez
OF Zach Collier
Honorable Mention: Freddie Freeman

Comments

Since: Aug 11, 2006
Posted on: December 21, 2008 9:16 am
 

Top 15 Prospects: NL East Re-Wrap Up

Let me start by saying that the Mets have better farm system then the Nationals! Maybe even the Phillies. These two are pretty even IMO.

25. Reese Havens SS Nym

Havens was taken in the sandwich portion of the first round of the 2008 draft. Havens is a likely second basemen in the future, he will play good defense there, and hit for a solid average, and some power.

OK Havens was NOT the sandwich pick, that went to Brad Holt, the current top Met pitching prospect. Holt is no where on your list, but he should be at the very least ahead of Kunz.

23. RHRP Nym

Already has made his debut for the Mets, the Mets are looking externally for their next closer, but Kunz will be back towards the back-end of their rotation again in 2009. If he shores up his command he could make for a great closer.

Kunz only made his debut because the Mets major league bullpen was a mess. How they survived until the final days with that dysfunctional bullpen was a miracle. Kunz will start 2009 in AA, and will only see CitiField as a Sept. call up. He struggled aafter being called up to the majors. Now he needs to rebound in 2009 and regain his control.

20. Jon Niese LHSP Nym

Niese has a killer curveball. I also see him as a number three starter.

He'll be a #4 tops - has drawn comparisons to Jon Garland

11. Ike Davis 1B/OF Nym

Another 2008 draftee, Davis has plus, plus power potential. I would love to see him as a corner outfielder, but he may be trapped at first, we’ll see. He should move through the system though.

Davis at #11 - sorry but is that a joke? He's not even the top 1B prospect in the Mets system...yet, he should be after the '09 season. He was 4th on the depth charts until Murphy lost his prospect status and Carp was traded. He had a poor pro debut season in short A ball. I expect him to fare better in 2009.

10. OF Nym

I am not high on Martinez. He has lost a lot of his value, as he is not an exceptional fielder, and has not shown power in the minors. He still has a lot of potential, but his clock is ticking.

I'll agree F-Mart's value has slipped, due to 2 straight injury filled season at AA ball. But keep in mind that he has played at AA while he was 18 and 19 years old. Even with his injuries his stats improved in '08 over '07. He just needs to stay off the DL. The clock is NOT ticking on a kid who just turned 20 yr. old in Oct. and has already played 2 season in AA, who is almost ready to move up to AAA, and played in to Future games! But he had a strong winter that should guarantee that he moves up to Triple-A for the beginning of next year, though the Mets were probably leaning in that direction anyway.




Since: Aug 16, 2006
Posted on: November 30, 2008 6:28 pm
 

Top 15 Prospects: NL East Re-Wrap Up

You're right.  He's tall, and throws a mid 90s fastball, as well as a hard breaking ball.  His hitch however, is an awkward throwing motion which may - in other's opinions - move him to the bullpen. 



Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: November 30, 2008 6:02 pm
 

Top 15 Prospects: NL East Re-Wrap Up

21. Sean West LHSP Fla

West is the best starting pitcher in the Marlins’ system. He does not have overpowering stuff, but I believe he can be a number three starter in the future.

Doesn't have overpowering stuff? His fastball sits at 98 mph with tons of movement, since when has that not been over powering?



Since: Jan 29, 2008
Posted on: November 21, 2008 6:34 pm
 

Top 15 Prospects: NL East Re-Wrap Up

You know, after you factor in MLB readiness, your rankings look a lot better to me. Personally, I favor ranking based off of ceiling than off of stage-of-development, but that's just my personal point of view. Take Niese. I don't see him as anything more than a 4 during his career, and thus I don't honestly think he should really be on the list at all. But if you're looking for a guy that's closer to the majors, I completely understand why he's where he is.




Since: Aug 16, 2006
Posted on: November 21, 2008 6:19 pm
 

Top 15 Prospects: NL East Re-Wrap Up

That's fair - when it comes to Coghlan - I like to factor in major league readiness, which Coghlan is. So, even though he is "only" an above average second basemen, with little power, I think Coghlan is a great prospect. 

As far as age being a "knock", many young players have productive seasons from time to time, but then fade away.  I would like to see what Freeman does over the course of two full seasons, and a in high A next season, before throwing him into the top 20.  Again, you are right, I would also not have any problems with Freeman at 19, but Niese, and Sean West are both a couple of starters that are major league ready - with the potential to be number three starters - while Freeman is a 19 year old first basemen with one stellar season behind him.  Do you see my thought process here?  Now you could make the point that Zach Collier is ranked higher than him, despite lackluster numbers, and being as young without the pro ball production, and that would also be fair.  Admittedly, I am a bit biased towards 2008 draftees. 

There are times when I really believe that I have Coghlan too high, but then I go back and check his stats, and am reassured that he is one of the best second base prospects ready for the major leagues.  He gets on-base, plays defense, and steals a lot of bases, he also has good doubles power, you can not ask for more from a prospect.  So, I am going to have to stick with my initial ranking there. 

I do love your input, and you make good points. 



Since: Jan 29, 2008
Posted on: November 21, 2008 6:03 pm
 

Top 15 Prospects: NL East Re-Wrap Up

I'm not sure how being "too early in his career" is a knock on Freeman. The fact that played the season at A ball as an 18 yearold and had the success that he did is a clear positive- not a negative. And the average age for a player at that league is closer to 20- another plus. Personally, I'd at least rate him 19 on your list, and I, actually, I'd bump down Coghen a few slots, and bump everybody else up a slot.




Since: Aug 16, 2006
Posted on: November 21, 2008 5:29 pm
 

Top 15 Prospects: NL East Re-Wrap Up

The highest I could have put him was 19th, he is certianly behind Drabek, and Morrison.  Yes his line is impressive, but he did it in low A, and he is a first basemen - which does diminish his value a little.  He has a 2:1 K:BB ratio, but that should erase itself in time but, he does not have as high a potential as many players on that list.  Could he outshine many of the players ahead of him? Of course, but it is too early in his career, and his potential is not high enough to rank him higher - or, at least I feel that way. 



Since: Jan 29, 2008
Posted on: November 21, 2008 5:13 pm
 

Top 15 Prospects: NL East Re-Wrap Up

You're way underrating Freddie Freeman, IMO. A .316/.378/.521 line with 18 HR and 95 RBI at A ball as a 18 year old is terrific. (he's a 19 year old now, but was 18 throughout the 2008 season)



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