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Posted on: May 2, 2008 3:15 pm
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Tartans,

Like you, I believe Heilman will be fine. However, I must disagree with you...and everyone else who suggests that Willie Randolph misuses the bullpen. My argument is: what options does he have realistically when 4 out of 5 of the starters routinely fail to pitch beyond the 5th inning? The bullpen isn't misused. It's fatigued from having to clean up the mess of Oliver Perez, who tanked it versus the Pirates, John Maine, who threw 109 pitches...109!!! in 5 innings against the Cubs; Nelson Figueroa, who has been a revelation only because he hasn't pitched in the bigs in like 4 years and the league hasn't caught up to him yet; and Mike Pelfrey, who has been okay but not lights out by any stretch. 

It's also no coincidence that Billy Wagner 'called out' Perez this week. Wagner understands that you can't keep parading your guys from the bullpen into games on a nightly basis. Your starters are expected to go at least 6-7 innings a start. The only one to do that regularly so far has been our $135 million dollar stud, Johan Santana; and even though in his last start he pitched like 5 1/3 innings against the Pirates, at least he battled and kept the Mets in the game. Oliver Perez walked like 5 guys in an inning, and everyone gets on Luis Castillo for making a key error and Jose Reyes for not covering second on a run down, but if your pitcher is throwing consistent strikes, your defense stays in the game. The Mets were down by 7 before anyone could get settled into their seats! How does one realistically expect an offense to power up against any major league team (even the lowly Pirates) when you're down 7 runs by the bottom of the second inning? That game reminded me of the last game of last season. The Mets weren't undone because of a lack of focus. They were 'out of it' because their starter didn't give them a chance from the outset to be in the game.

Let's be real Mets fans, stop the booing the team and calling for Randolph's head on a platter. The Mets aren't getting it done on the field for a variety of reasons. Pitching (starting and bullpen) and offense. When Ryan Church is your biggest offensive weapon when you have guys who talent-wise are exponentially better, there's a problem.      

 


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Since: Aug 11, 2006
Posted on: May 3, 2008 3:45 pm
 

My Response to Tartans' Latest Blog Entry

After looking things over I'm more of the feeling now that it's a little of both - misuse and over worked.

Either way it all comes back to how deep the starters pitch into the game.




Since: Nov 22, 2006
Posted on: May 3, 2008 9:07 am
 

My Response to Tartans' Latest Blog Entry

Tartans,

Well stated, particularly with the stats you always provide; but of the four starts Pelfrey has made to date, he's only gotten out of the sixth inning once. Perez has only made it out of the sixth inning once, and Figueroa, who is a relative unknown to the guys he's faced so far has made it out twice. Maine's, I must admit, is the stat that surprised me, however although you point out that these guys for the most part have pitched six innings, look at Santana who has gone almost 7 each time. He is the only starter in my opinion who has given any relief to the bullpen. If guys are consistently having to enter a game to finish the sixth and then work the 7th-9th, the bullpen will be overworked. 

Looking at last night's game, I was pleased to see Maine go 7 innings for the win. The only guys who needed to get up last night were Duaner Sanchez, Joe Smith and Pedro Feliciano. Randolph was able to use those guys effectively in certain spots to either get guys some work or to face specific batters in the D-Backs lineup. The bullpen was rested after the off day, but no one had to enter the game to clean up a 100-pitch 5 or 6 inning effort.

All in all Tartans, I wasn't saying that you were wrong; I'm just saying from my perspective that I disagree.   




Since: Aug 11, 2006
Posted on: May 3, 2008 5:22 am
 

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 I must disagree with you...and everyone else who suggests that Willie Randolph misuses the bullpen. My argument is: what options does he have realistically when 4 out of 5 of the starters routinely fail to pitch beyond the 5th inning? The bullpen isn't misused. It's fatigued from having to clean up the mess

Lets do a little homework here:

Through 27 games the Mets are 15-12     

13 of those games the Starter went 6 or more innings (Santana owns 5 of these games)

14 of those games the starter failed to go beyond 5 innings (1 games resulted in Pedro getting injuried) (Perez owns 5 of these games, Pelfrey 3 of them)

Santana (3-2) - 6 GS went 7.0IP~7.0IP~6.2IP~7.0IP~7.0IP~5.2IP = 40.1IP

Perez (2-2) - 6 GS went 6.0IP~5.2IP~4.1IP~5.2IP~5.2IP~1.2IP = 29IP

Maine (3-2) - 6 GGS went 4.0IP~6.0IP~6.2IP~6.0IP~5.0IP~6.0IP = 33.2IP

Pelfrey (2-1) - 4 GS went 5.0IP~7.0IP~5.0IP~5.1IP = 22.1IP

Figueroa (2-1) - 4 GS went 6.0IP~7.0IP~5.0IP~3.1IP

and Pedro's 1 start going 3IP

 

Your argument does not hold! The bullpen is being misused. There are 7 guys in the pen, use them all Willie!



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