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Redeem Team

Posted on: August 20, 2008 9:55 am
 

My Redeemers continue their march towards playing the mythical game against the Dream Team.

Because that's the only game in these Olympics that matter: The Redeem Team vs. the Dream Team.

The Redeemers are going to win every game in the Olympics by 25. They just beat the Australians by 31.

As I wrote earlier this week the Redeem Team would give the 1992 Dream Team a very tough game. The Dreamers would win but it would come down to the last few shots.

This Olympics has little to do with the rest of the world. We've established we're the best again. The United States isn't going to lose.

Some of you want them to lose, but they're not going to.

No, these Olympics continue to be about that mythical game and former Olympic basketball standard bearers, the 1992 Dream Team and the more I see the Redeemers, the more confident I become they'd give the Dreamers a great game.
Comments

Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: August 27, 2008 9:10 am
 

Redeem Team

Why the namecalling, Mike?  That is truly juvenile.



Since: Feb 9, 2007
Posted on: August 22, 2008 11:38 am
 

Redeem Team

Syd: At least, without question, third grade.

BTW: How is it that a second (or third) grader constantly gets you to post on what I write?

What does that make you?

First grader?

Or just a hypocritical dope.



Since: Sep 17, 2006
Posted on: August 22, 2008 7:29 am
 

Redeem Team

Well, if the USA does somehow lose, at least there will be the silver lining that Freeman will have to eat his (2nd grade reading level) words.




Since: Jun 2, 2008
Posted on: August 22, 2008 5:35 am
 

Redeem Team

1) Well, since you asked I would gladly leave Scottie Pippen on Jordan (yes, Pippen was on the 96 team), with Pippen guarding Jordan, I'd take my chances (not to mention the great front court that would contest Jordan any time he actually was able to penetrate). You could also put Reggie Miller on Jordan (they used to go at it in NBA games, so I'd feel pretty comfortable with him on Jordan as well).

As far as Kobe and Lebron go, I'd put Miller on Bryant and expect Miller to win that match up. Rip Hamilton has a very similar style of play to what Miller had, only Miller had more range. Hamilton gives Bryant fits, so I'd feel comfortable with that one. James on the other hand is another story. His size creates a huge advantage against Pippen, but I'd put him on James as I feel he is one of the best defenders in the last 20 years. Another option would be putting Grant Hill on him. Hill at the time was an elite athlete (almost as good as James). Of course Hill isn't quite as big, he'd probably be giving up about 15 lbs. Even still, I'd take my chances with those big men waiting for James in the paint.

2) No explosiveness? Are you serious? Pippen, Hill, Penny Hardaway? No explosiveness? Even if you say none of those 3 were explosive, Shaq would still be able to do whatever he wants in the paint.

3) Don't buy into the whole teamwork angle for any of these USA national teams. Did the teams have team players? Yes, but were any of them that good in a half court offense running generic plays? Not so much. And btw, neither the 92 or 08 teams has a guard that could blow by the "Glove", Pippen, Miller, or the NBA's all-time leader in steals Stockton. Oh and btw, every player on the 96 team with the exception of GP and Stockton were more than capable scorers at the time, they would be competitive even if all of their bigs couldn't score.

That team won by more than 20 in the semis. It wasn't poorly put together, there was just no reason for defensive intensity. I'll give you that 92 and 08 are both very talented teams, but they don't match up well against that 96 team which had just as much talent.




Since: Jan 8, 2008
Posted on: August 22, 2008 1:15 am
 

Redeem Team

Can't really say Lebron is better than Kobe... Kobe has a few pretty rings on his fingers.. Lebron doesn't...



Since: Jan 8, 2008
Posted on: August 22, 2008 1:12 am
 

Redeem Team

Wrong...

So wrong...

This team is good, but they couldn't even step on the court with the 92' squad...



Since: Aug 21, 2008
Posted on: August 21, 2008 3:39 pm
 

Redeem Team

These opinions are understood, but now listen to mine.

First of all im tired of the old old old.  When it comes between these two teams its nothin but a mythical game as said. Its also not as easy as people think to compare, But since it is the topic of discussion here we go.

Let me start by sayin international basketball is at least 10 times better now then the 90s period.

Secondly, there would have been mismatches all over the court but where i think we (redeem team) are much more dominating is in the caliber of their defense. 

yes not beefy on the inside but much more athletic not as good shooters but once again defense is excellent.

anyone of the redeem players could take dream teams players (best defenders) to the basket anytime which causes collapsing defense.

whos guarding lebron? 6' 9" 250 lbs come on

jordan could barely hang onto dwayne wade.

Magic will have the biggest and possibly only mismatch he posses against the redeem team.

Redeem team wins by at least 8 to 10 points.... its only that close because the dream team is that great

Both teams would end with similar equal field goal % (dream team gets more 3 pointers or better 3pt %

redeem wins turnover battle, dominate fastbreak points (thanks coach DaAntoni) and oh yeah of course the Highlight reel




Since: Aug 21, 2008
Posted on: August 21, 2008 3:37 pm
 

Redeem Team

These opinions are understood, but now listen to mine.

First of all im tired of the old old old.  When it comes between these two teams its nothin but a mythical game as said. Its also not as easy as people think to compare, But since it is the topic of discussion here we go.

Let me start by sayin international basketball is at least 10 times better now then the 90s period.

Secondly, there would have been mismatches all over the court but where i think we (redeem team) are much more dominating is in the caliber of their defense. 

yes not beefy on the inside but much more athletic not as good shooters but once again defense is excellent.

anyone of the redeem players could take dream teams players (best defenders) to the basket anytime which causes collapsing defense.

whos guarding lebron? 6' 9" 250 lbs come on

jordan could barely hang onto dwayne wade.

Magic will have the biggest and possibly only mismatch he posses against the redeem team.

Redeem team wins by at least 8 to 10 points.... its only that close because the dream team is that great

Both teams would end with similar equal field goal % (dream team gets more 3 pointers or better 3pt %

redeem wins turnover battle, dominate fastbreak points (thanks coach DaAntoni) and oh yeah of course the Highlight reel




Since: Jun 14, 2007
Posted on: August 21, 2008 3:02 pm
 

Redeem Team

OK, I disagree with you on a few accounts.

1) Who in the world on that team is going to guard Kobe, Jordan, or lebron?

2) There is no explosiveness to that team... the '92 and '08 are loaded with shock power, not necissarly star power.

3) Team unity- I don't think we have seen any teamwork like we have in this olympics in '08.  Now that '92 gives this '08 a run for its money when it comes to teamwork.

I do agree that the '96 team was just that big and could literally crush you under the boards and just send player after player at you till you just were to exhausted to compete anymore.  I mean, if you can score every possesion from inside 5 ft from the basket then your going to win every game since you will score more consistantly, but that isn't really possible.  Think of it this way, both '92 and '08 have faster guards, suddenly your big men are forced to double on the drive or take in fouls and then that advantage is negated... now whats the plan.  rely on one shooter to get it done?  I just don't think that team could get it done compared to the other teams.  I mean, the other teams are so dominant it wasn't funny, and they almost lost in the semis.  The basketball world didn't catch up that fast in 4 years, it was a poorly put together team that caused that.




Since: Aug 24, 2006
Posted on: August 21, 2008 2:56 pm
 

Redeem Team

Okay, here's the problem with your Dream Team vs. the 08 Olympic Team.

One, ball pressure. The reason Team USA is having success is the ball pressure and turnovers they are creating because of superior guard play and depth. There's a reason the runs the "redeem team" doesn't start untill the first quarter is over. Do you really think you are going to pressure Magic Johnson and John Stockton into that many mistakes?

Two, running an offense in a half court set. In case you missed the Australia game against the "redeem team", they ran all over them in the second game. When the game was slowed down the first game Team USA had to play in a half court set they were much less successful. Think about it, the running game is what make the 08 team go, could they pull that off against the Dream Team and have the same success? If you watched these games you can see that the "redeem team" really struggles in a half court set. The Dream Team excelled, even with much less practice.

Thirdly, as others have pointed out, inside play. No in this particular tournament the 08 Team didn't need the inside presence but against the Dream Team they would be exposed. Exactly who are you going to have guard David Robinson or even Patrick Ewing? Dwight Howard and Chris Bosh? Really?

The reality of the situation is the Dream Team would not only win, they would win by a significant margin. The "redeem team" couldn't generate enough turnovers, struggles in the half court, would have no answer for the Dream Teamers inside play, and would be outrebounded badly.



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