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Redeemers Better Story than Phelps

Posted on: August 24, 2008 4:22 am

The basketball gold medal game was stunning, the officials absolutely awful but in the end the Redeem Team lived up to its name.

It wasn't their best night. The Americans at times played defense with the intensity of a Sunday afternoon jogger.

This game will go down as one of the top five in Olympic basketball history and Spain deserves a great deal of credit for taking the Americans to the limit.

Still, overall in these Olympics the Americans were spectacular, particularly Kobe Bryant and LeBron James. They enabled you to root for USA basketball again, they rebuilt our image, and they mostly handled themselves with class and dignity. If you can't be proud of what they did -- and the women as well -- then you're more cynical than I am. Which is impossible.

While these Olympics will be remembered for Michael Phelps what the basketball team did was far more impressive. Yes. Far more.

The reason why is pressure. If Phelps had earned five gold medals instead of eight he wouldn't have been called a failure.

If the United States won a silver or bronze the players would've been treated like total losers. They'd be called embarrassing. Media and fans would be screaming for massive changes.

The world and many people in this country waited for the Redeemers to fail so everyone could wag their fingers and portray the Americans as street ballers incapable of playing the precision International game.

You don't think the Americans knew this? You don't think they felt this pressure and it didn't weight on their chests like Shaquille O'Neal's backside?

Phelps had only Mark Spitz to worry about. The basketball team was fighting the failures of the recent past as well as our cynicism.

It's late on the East Coast and the game just ended. My eyes are barely open but I'm nevertheless giddy. Actually, I'll say it, as corny as it sounds, I'm proud as hell.
Category: Olympic Games
Tags: Redeem Team

Since: Nov 27, 2006
Posted on: August 26, 2008 12:05 pm

Redeemers Better Story than Phelps

What a moronic statement, actually a couple of them.

Since: Feb 9, 2007
Posted on: August 26, 2008 11:49 am

Redeemers Better Story than Phelps

My goodness. You people are still posting on this. Keep it up. Maybe we can top 300.

Since: Nov 25, 2006
Posted on: August 26, 2008 11:43 am

Redeemers Better Story than Phelps

This story is not even close to being correct.  It is only a better story if you aren't a true sports fan and only like basketball.  I would say that oh, 99.9% of the rest of the world would disagree with you.  Including the entire "Redeem" team, who by the way, were cheering for Phelps in the stands. (not all of them)

How can you say that the US Men's Basketball Team did something more impressive than what Michael Phelps did????

There were multiple races that Phelps or a relay team that he was a part of won, in which, the second and third and sometimes fourth place finishers broke the previous world record. 

Show me one game that the basketball team won where there opponent could even come close to saying something like that.  I know swimming is different than basketball and you can't really set world records as a basketball team, but the point I am trying to make is...

If you beat a Spanish team that has maybe four or five guys in the whole country good enough to even play in the NBA and has a 17 year old point guard going up against Kidd, Paul, and Williams, you can't compare that to winning a race, setting the world record, and beating 2 or 3 guys in that race who also beat the old world record.

Not even close, no matter how you measure it.  And Phelps set or was a part of 7 world records in the process of getting his 8 golds.

Freeman, "Redeem" team implies that it was expected of them to win.....thus the "period" spoken of earlier in this thread.  I don't think they felt any pressure at all, they were built and live for games like that,  Period.

Since: Nov 15, 2006
Posted on: August 26, 2008 10:39 am

Redeemers Better Story than Phelps

This is one of the best posts I've seen. Thanks for the great post, Bong Show! Throughout the whole tournament, I thought Dwayne Wade was the best player on the court. He did everything, played great offense, great defense and was a total sparkplug off the bench. If I had to rate their contributions, here is the order:

Dwayne Wade, LeBron James, Kobe Bryant, Chris Paul, Chris Bosh, Carmelo Anthony, Teyshaun Prince, Dwight Howard, Deron Williams, Jason Kidd, Michael Redd, Carlos Boozer

Kobe, while htting the big three and getting fouled late in the game was huge, was not the MVP, not even close. He was part of a team and it was good to see him take a back seat, or at least share the driving. Teyshaun Prince is the most underrated player on this team. The Pistons know his value, and I hope the rest of the world now realizes his will and his talent.

Last words for me...this guy Freeman is an idiot.


Since: Feb 22, 2007
Posted on: August 26, 2008 10:39 am

Redeemers Better Story than Phelps

Obviously you're a Kobe hater......because you cannot appreciate the cold-blooded assassine that brought the Gold back to the USA.  Dwayne Wade and Lebron were doubt about it.  But the absolute bottom line is: if Kobe hadn't been out there, we would have suffered the same fate we've been suffering in the previous years without him.  Like Lebron said, "We have 1 guy on this team that is not afraid t otake the big shot under pressure."  So the "tool" that would have been Kobe Bean had he missed, went from "tool" to "MAMBA " in the blink of an eye.  I'm sure you'll have more excuses as to why Kobe continues to win championships while Lebron and DWade fight to get there. 

Since: Aug 26, 2008
Posted on: August 26, 2008 10:30 am

Redeemers Better Story than Phelps


I know that the crackwhores and cocaine cowboys you saw while jogging in Miami last Super Bowl traumatized you, but you forgot to mention this modern-day gamorrah's favorite son, Dwayne Wade.  For all the crap we have to hear about Kobe and Lebron, D-Wade saved that team in the gold medal game when those two clowns got two early fouls each. Unfortunately, the story line was how Kobe SAVED the U.S. team in the fourth quarter. Someday D-wade will get the credit he deserves. I am sure if he played in NY or Los Angeles, things would be different. I am sick of the veiled racism sports columnists spout on South Florida.

Since: Aug 27, 2006
Posted on: August 26, 2008 9:26 am

Redeemers Better Story than Phelps

Really now, this wasn't even our best team. First, let's get over the notion that anything will duplicate the original Dream Team. Now that you've come to that reality, try this mouthful; in '96, we should have sent the Chicago Bulls, in '00, the LA Lakers, in '04, the Detroit Pistons and this year it should have been the Boston Celtics. Trust me, we would have never, I mean NEVER lost in '04 had we sent the men from Motown. And to think that all these players already know how to play with one another as TEAMMATES. So now, you want us to actually believe that the story of a bunch of pompous overpaid superstars doing what we all knew they could do if they really wanted to is a better story than a wondeful young man who has set a record that will probably never be broken. I'd rather have the story line of Usain Bolt coming back in the next Olympics and running and breaking the records in the 400 and 4x400 relay and showing the world his amazing athleticism and joy for life. Sheesh.

Since: Aug 25, 2008
Posted on: August 25, 2008 11:57 pm

Redeemers Better Story than Phelps

;   Just when you thought Freeman had written his dumbest article he takes it to a new level. A team filled with the best players in the world hands down struggles to beat a team that the Knicks could match up with.Though as Freeman so proudly stated they handled themselves with such class.Your right for two weeks they managed not to get caught with guns,pot,or maids.WOW I DONT KNOW HOW THEY PULLED IT OFF.Good thing they can now rest a month before being forced to make an average of 20 MILLION for playing a game.

Since: Sep 3, 2006
Posted on: August 25, 2008 11:49 pm

A rapist and 4 thugs

I could not find it in my American heart to pull for what we had on the basketball court. 


8 GOLD over 1 GOLD -- This Freeman guy is a moron.  If Phelps was black, Freeman would not have wrote this bit.

Since: Dec 7, 2006
Posted on: August 25, 2008 11:28 pm

Redeemers Better Story than Phelps

Freeman as 100% wrong.  Phelps is the better story b/c of all the history.  He won 8 gold medals in 8 chances, which is near impossible to do.   The basketball team has won the gold medal before and this was expected.  And it was so much more dramatic than the basketball.  What about the race with Lezak against that French guy who said they were going to beat up the US and then the race he won by a fingernail at the very end?  It does not get any better than that.  Phelps was definitely the story of the Olympics.  In fact, I can name a few other better stories.  What about the US men's volleyball team?  The coach's family was attacked with one dying and they were able to win gold.  And what about the gymnastics?  Nastia Liukin was spectacular in winning the ultimate medal, the all-around individual gold and ended up with a total of 5 medals, tying a record and putting up one of the all time best performances by a gymnast in the Olympics.  Plus, the age controversy of the Chinese gymnasts including the one who beat Nastia on the uneven bars in the tiebreaker is also as big a story as the Redeem Team.  Freeman is right that this was a big story, overcoming the terrible Athens performance, but with 3 years preparation in the World Championships and with the proper selection of players for the team in a nation that already has the best basketball players in the world, this had to be expected.  And besides the Gold medal game, they won each game in a rout.  Phelps' swims were all very dramatic as it had history riding on it.  No comparison in my opinion and definitely the story of these Olympics and will be remembered for years to come.

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