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Pats Showing Heart But Playoffs All But Dead

Posted on: December 21, 2008 7:32 pm
Edited on: December 21, 2008 7:40 pm
 

FOXBOROUGH, Mass. -- The New England Patriots are showing the kind of heart and passion you know is there. The problem for them: it's too late.

The AFC East is a total logjam but basically for the Patriots it comes down to this:

1. If Miami beats the Jets next week, Miami wins the division and is of course in. The Patriots are out.

2. If that happens, and Baltimore beats Jacksonville, the Ravens are in. The Patriots are out.

3. The Patriots must beat Buffalo next week.

4. To win the division, the Patriots need the Dolphins to lose or tie.
Whew.

Basically, I think the Patriots have a 20 percent chance of getting in.

But they are playing hard right now and this has been one of Bill Belichick's best coaching jobs.
Category: NFL
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volsarebest
Since: Oct 7, 2007
Posted on: December 24, 2008 9:39 pm
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Since: Aug 27, 2006
Posted on: December 22, 2008 7:54 pm
 

Pats Showing Heart But Playoffs All But Dead

Someone mentioned on here that the Dolphins have been struggling against lowly opponents, but would the Jets 13 - 3 loss to Seattle be considered playing well? The Dolphins have been doing what they need to do to win, regardless of the opponent. This last one, they did it in 10 degree temps, on hte road, with their middle linebacker out (Crowder). I think that was good preparation for the Jets game.



Since: Nov 1, 2006
Posted on: December 22, 2008 7:22 pm
 

Pats Showing Heart But Playoffs All But Dead

uh, you're wrong about the two teams that are different. Everyone from the AFC East played the AFC West this year. The two teams that are different are as follows:

Miami played the Ravens and Texans (both losses).

NYJ played the Bengals and Titans (both winss).

N.E. played the Steelers and Colts (both losses).

The only difference between the 3 teams is where their losses occurred. Both the Dolphins and Jets lost a game to the NFC West (Jets to the Seahawks and 49ers, Dolphins to the Cardinals) while all of the Patriots losses came to AFC teams. That is the tie-breaker N.E. loses the division and wildcard too, Conference record.




Since: Feb 8, 2007
Posted on: December 22, 2008 5:50 pm
 

Pats Showing Heart But Playoffs All But Dead

My goodness some of you are jaded to think Mangini will simply fold one over to allow the Dolphins in and Patriots out of the playoffs.  I think if he loses the game, he might be finidng a job along with a few other coaches. 

I honestly do not think the Patriots are in the playoff unless the Dolphins lose.  I think the Ravens are playing at home against a team that played an all out effort against the Colts that physically and emotionally drained them last Thursday.  MDJ is hurt and one tough hit, might be out of the game.  It is a cold game that if the Ravens go up early, the Jaguars will start the bus early.  They have a 10 day layoff and holiday thoughts have to be hitting them.  What are they doing next week after the season thoughts will be going through thier heads.  Those guys are human.  There minds will be half floated for that game and I expect the Ravens to be squarely focused on making it a non issue early.....




Since: Sep 25, 2006
Posted on: December 22, 2008 12:20 pm
 

Pats Showing Heart But Playoffs All But Dead

 4 months ago this wasn't even a question, but in a season filled with injuries its become more of a hope. The defending AFC champions and only team ever to start out 18-0 were a shoe in to be division champs with teams like Buffalo, New York, and Miami in there division. Perhaps everyone overlooked the going out and getting 6 pro bowlers, and the fins landing the big tuna along with a mistake free qb. Mix in the league's residing mvp going down in the first quarter in week 1 and you end up with a division race that will play out in week 17.

      
; First off a standing ovation should be held for the schedule makers this year, you couldn't ask for more. In week 16 we saw the 1 and 2 seeds from each conference play heads up for homefield advantage. In week 17 there will be 4 divisions up for grabs along with 2 wild-card spots with match-ups including: , , and . Heads up week 17 winner makes playoffs, loser gets to watch. Perfect.

      
; So now we have the on the outside looking in. For New England to get in they first must beat Buffalo, then have either Miami or the lose. The patriots have already beaten Buffalo this year and Miami lost to the jets in Miami in week 1 so it is in no means out of the question. The Ravens play a disappointing team this year and the game will be played in Baltimore. The only advanage the jaguars have in the game is that they are coming off a 10-day bye from playing Indy on thursday night.

      
; Looking at the early lines for the game Patriots are favored by 8.5, jets are favored by 3 over miami, and Baltimore is a 12-point favorite or the jags. Just by the lines the patriots are favored to make the post-season once again. But lets put in a perspective of percentage. Some wanna be writers with no sense of numbers, or math give the patriots a 20% chance of making the playoffs. Anyone can throw a number out there, but how about a little math.

The patriots will be about 75% favorite against Buffalo, the jets will be about a 60% favorite against Miami, and Baltimore is around 85%.

(.75*.60)= 45% chance patriots will win division and be 3 seed in playoffs

(.75*.15)=11.25% chance for patriots to be 6 seed in the case that miami wins

45+11.25= 56.25% chance patriots make the playoffs. It's better than a coin-flip. Vegas thinks they will.




Since: Oct 14, 2008
Posted on: December 22, 2008 12:03 pm
 

Pats Showing Heart But Playoffs All But Dead

Nobody's going to throw anything. Coaches in the NFL may hold grudges, but there isn't a single coach out there who would intentionally throw a game just in spite of another team. Not a chance Mangini throws this game, even if it is later than the Pats game.

The bottom line is both coaches, Mangini and Belichick, have a chance to make it in by winning. This is exactly what they are preaching to their entire teams right this very moment. They're telling them not to worry about the stuff that they cannot control and only worry about winning. It's what every coach does in this situation.

As far as my prediction: Dolphins win the East and Baltimore takes the final wild card spot.




Since: Jul 22, 2007
Posted on: December 22, 2008 11:58 am
 

Pats Showing Heart But Playoffs All But Dead

Mike Freeman: Typical CBS SPORTS website moron.  20% chance?  They'll be favored to beat Buffalo. And the Jets will be favored to beat Miami.  Plus, they have another option if Jax upsets Baltimore.  How does that add up to 20%?



Since: Dec 14, 2007
Posted on: December 22, 2008 11:47 am
 

Pats Showing Heart But Playoffs All But Dead

My bad...  I trusted the scoreboard on this site and it has SD & Denver at 4:15.  Checking with more reliable sites the game is at 8:15.




Since: Dec 14, 2007
Posted on: December 22, 2008 11:04 am
 

Pats Showing Heart But Playoffs All But Dead

I would really like to watch the Denver & SD game at 4:15.  If the PATS & RAVENS win, Miami will destroy the JETS.  Most people should see the Jets & Miami at 1pm. 



Since: Dec 14, 2007
Posted on: December 22, 2008 11:00 am
 

Pats Showing Heart But Playoffs All But Dead...

Especially, If the NFL pushes the game to 4PM and the PATS & Ravens both win at 1PM.  Will the Jets tank the game Sunday?  I think the Jets hate Mangenius and don't care. 



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