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Will Mike Vick be back? It seems likely, but...

Posted on: July 23, 2009 10:52 pm
Edited on: July 23, 2009 10:53 pm
NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell is leaning towards reinstating Michael Vick, two league sources told, though no final decision has been made and Vick's future in professional football is far from certain.

Two league sources stressed that Goodell hasn't officially decided on whether to allow Vick back into football, contradicting an ESPN report that Goodell has decided to conditionally reinstate Vick and suspend him four games.

But those sources also said that signs seem to be pointing to Vick returning. Again, the situation remains extremely fluid, the sources said, and they stressed that Goodell is still weighing several factors that could change his mind.

The action Goodell is considering, the sources said, is similar to what's Pete Prisco wrote earlier this week. Goodell might allow Vick to sign with a club as soon as next week but not actually reinstate him until a much later date and not announce that date until a later point in time.

Thus even if teams wanted to sign Vick -- and there's no indication that's the case -- few would risk adding him to their training camp roster this season without knowing when he'd be reinstated.

If the scenario that the sources are outlining is accurate it could be months before Vick ever sees a down in the NFL (and again that's if a team even wants to sign him).

"If I was Michael Vick," a source said, "I'd be thinking more about 2010."

One person helping Vick greatly is Tony Dungy, the former Indianapolis Colts coach, one of the all-time classy coaches in football history. Dungy has publicly recommended that Vick be allowed to return and Goodell has strongly considered Dungy's words, sources said.

The sources also confirmed published reports that Vick and Goodell met in New Jersey on Wednesday.

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Tags: Michael Vick

Since: Nov 12, 2006
Posted on: July 24, 2009 5:10 pm

Will Mike Vick be back? It seems likely, but...

Everyone alive has done something that could have made them a felon at some point in there life.This is the dumbest comment ever posted on sportsline.  Seriously.  THE dumbest, and that's saying something.

Since: Nov 12, 2006
Posted on: July 24, 2009 5:07 pm

Will Mike Vick be back? It seems likely, but...

Let Mike go play football and live what life he can have left knowing that even if he comes back he has already ruined his chances of being one of the best of all time you can't miss 2 years and make up for it you are only giving a little window of your life that you can play football in the pro's unless your Favre. Oh, boo f***ing hoo.  You mean he has to be responsible for his actions?  Waaaaaaahhhhhhh........

I don't give a rat's ass if he's "only given a little window" - it should have given him more reason not to piss it away like a moron.

BTW, He didn't ruin his chances of being one of the best of all time with this.  The fact that he is a crappy QB did that. 

Since: Jun 6, 2009
Posted on: July 24, 2009 4:04 pm

Will Mike Vick be back? It seems likely, but...

I'm pretty sure that even if Michael Vick gets renstated early (such as before teams' camps are done), he still won't find himself on a roster. Maybe I'm mistaken, but I think there's more to it than the gambling ring and the terribly cruel treatment of dogs and the PETA protests that would follow whatever team picks him up.

I don't think anybody's going to pick him up because he's a lousy QB.  He has a career completion percentage of just under 54%.  He has a career passer rating of 75.8 (his best season he had a rating of 81.6-not even backup QB quality).  He averages about 155 yds/game passing (his best seaon was his first full season as a starter-2002-when he had 195 yds/game).  He has approximately a 7:5 TD/INT ratio (or about 1.5 TD's/1 INT).  In his best season, he passed for just under 3000 yds.  These are mediaocre QB stats at best

He has been explosive at time in running the ball himself from scrimage.  He's known as possibly the best running QB in the last decade (I won't say ever because that would be Steve Young.).  But he has the potential to hurt his team when he takes that role as well.  He's been sacked 187 times, or a little over 30 a season.  His last season, he was sacked 46 times.  He's also lost fumbles in alot of those running situations.
At the end of the day, the reason the Falcons were successful with him was because the team was tailored to his style of play.  They supported him and gave him a line that could protect him passing and running.  They drafted receivers high in the draft, but to no avail because his passing reached a plateau. 
I don't think he'll find a job because the only teams that could use him, that actually have a system where he can thrive, are the wildcat offenses.  If he would be willing to play another role, such as receiver, he'd be more marketable.  But he isn't.  He's adamant bout playing QB.  As it stands, too many teams are already stable in that position, and even if they aren't, he doesn't give them that stability they're lacking.

Since: Oct 27, 2008
Posted on: July 24, 2009 1:04 pm

Will Mike Vick be back? It seems likely, but...

The funny thing about this whole situation is that animal rights extremists think the NFL is really considering your cause.  The NFL is in the business of making money.  Animal rights activists, Civili Rights Activists, American Indians etc..... Have been protesting NFL games for decades now.  That hasn't fased their business.  It just so happens thast the economy has sucked and has probably more impact on Roger Goodell's decisions than any animal rights activists.  The overall image of the NFL has taken some major PR hits of late so Goodell and the NFL owner are concerned about marketing dollars.  The whole thing is about much more than Vick alone.  It's about T.o's antics.  It's about Plaxico Burris, Dante Stallworth, Ray Curruth and every other NFL player that gotten into trouble over the last 5-10 years.  There has been an underlying pattern of violence that the NFL wants to address in the only legal way they can.
So for the Animal rights activist that plans the "make yourself heard".  Really........ no one cares.  So get over yourself.  Protest if you want.  The Superbowl is still the most watched event in the world and that's what advertisers care about.  Go ahead and protest.  I'll be sure to wave to you as I head from the parking lot into Giants stadium to watch the "G" men kick the crap out of whatever team decides to sign Vick.

Mike Vick has the right to employment.  Many companies have conduct clauses in their employment contract.  However it is illegal for them to stop you from being employed by someone else.  That is the true legal ramification of  particular case.  Can the NFL prevent Mike Vick from gainful employment?   Not from being employed by the NFL, but by one of the individually owned and operated  teams in the NFL.

Since: Sep 12, 2006
Posted on: July 24, 2009 1:01 pm

Will Mike Vick be back? It seems likely, but...

Infraction? Michael Vick is a CONVICTED FELON that has shown a pattern of unlawful behavior.

Since: Jul 10, 2009
Posted on: July 24, 2009 12:53 pm

Will Mike Vick be back? It seems likely, but...

MadMitch...its tough to argue the facts which you have laid out quite well.  I can't imagine a team owner wanting him, mostly because of fan reaction.  Some will like him, some absolutely despise what he did, and will never get over it.  Any owner who hires him may as well hire extra security to handle all of the protests on game day.

Since: Nov 12, 2006
Posted on: July 24, 2009 12:50 pm

Will Mike Vick be back? It seems likely, but...

People fail to realize that  he financed an illegal gambling ringAlex Karras was suspended for 1 year for smaller gambling issue.
Paul Hornung was suspended for 1 year for smaller gambling issue.
Art Schlichter was banned for life for gambling issues.

Guys who gamble illegally and face NFL repercussions.  There's so much "but I like to watch him play" thinking on this board people seem to forget this.

Since: Nov 12, 2006
Posted on: July 24, 2009 12:46 pm

Will Mike Vick be back? It seems likely, but...

Vick has already been one of the most explosive entertainers in the NFL.  So why should he be denied an opportunity to be employed in there game?So you're saying if he was a backup player before he shouldn't be given the opportunity?  what does his talent level have to do with it?  It's either right or wrong. 

Personally, I think he should get a suspension, but then be allowed to return.  It's simply consistent with NFL rulings on other players with criminal convictions.  Of course, he was always a crappy quarterback (generally in the bottom third of all teams in passing efficiency), and can only be expected to be worse with the time off.  And who knows how he runs now that he's past his athletic prime and has spent two years away from the game.  But after a suspension, if some team wants to take on this publicity monster for a backup quarterback, they should be allowed to.

UFL, here's your man.

Since: Nov 12, 2006
Posted on: July 24, 2009 12:41 pm

Will Mike Vick be back? It seems likely, but...

I doubt that the law would support me if I suspended an employee if he was ticketed for DUI and some other infraction. Not sure if you could suspend the employee, but you could definitely fire him.  As long as it's at-will employment.  But you're much better off firing the employee than suspending them.  I've worked in an environment for 25 years where a DUI can get you fired, and the felonies Vick committed would ensure he never got a job in the industry again. 

Players can't sue and win as long as the commissioner is acting with the guidelines of the collective bargaining agreement.  They're part of a union that agreed to these rules.

Since: Aug 28, 2006
Posted on: July 24, 2009 12:39 pm

Will Mike Vick be back? It seems likely, but...

I would like to correct a statement you made " The NFL is not the only employer of athletes in the nation " The NFL is not his employer they are not the ones that sign his paychecks are they? What ever NFL team that signs would be. If I owned a team I would not want the leauge that I play in dictate what players I can sign or what players can play for me. I believe what Vick did was wrong and he was punished for that crime in which he payed his debt. Now he is entitled to make a living along with anyone else who convicted of a crime and did there time. It just so happens that he plays football which puts it in the spotlight. Im sure if a team does want to sign him will put stuff in his contract regarding his off the field behavior. It should be each teams choice not the commissioner.

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