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Brett Favre: great player, kinda' petty

Posted on: July 28, 2009 7:37 pm
Edited on: July 29, 2009 7:45 am
Brett Favre will one day soon enter the Hall of Fame and he should. None of Favre's recent petulant actions should dampen that sentiment.

One of the top five quarterbacks in league history. That's Favre.

Favre, however, will also be remembered for his petty behavior at the end.

He went to the New York Jets out of spite so he could stick his thumb in the eye of Green Bay management.

Then he held up the Minnesota Vikings for weeks if not months, wavering back and forth, enjoying the ego rush of having Vikings players beg him to return.

He treated Packers fans, perhaps the most loyal in all of sports, like hot garbage.

In the waning moments of his career, Favre acted like His Brettness.

He's a Hall of Famer, no question. One of the best.

In the end he also acted like a royal jerk.

Both things are true.

See you in Canton, Your Brettness. Good luck.

And good riddance.

Category: NFL
Tags: Packers

Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: July 29, 2009 6:31 pm

Brett Favre: great player, kinda' petty

hqic your post is longer than Freeman's article.  Pretty accurate though.  Also, Favre did not have a straight answer on retirement every off season for about two or three years before all of that went down.  Ultimately the Pack tried to accomodate him as best they could, but they could not mortgage their future on a vague non-commitment from Favre.  In essence, the Vikings need a legit QB and wasted their chance this offseason doing just that.  I can almost see it this year, since he had offseason surgery, but he has been pulling this crap for about 5 years.  Great talent, a lot of fun to watch, but a spoiled brat when it comes to his contract.  Ironic, since he has always been an "in the trenches" style of player, that he would be a prima donna the last bunch of offseasons.

Since: Aug 19, 2006
Posted on: July 29, 2009 4:23 pm

Brett Favre: great player, kinda' petty

5 stars, add as favorite, absolutely freaking said the right way, etc., etc.

All men turn into that old guy who yells at kids on their lawn and cares about nobody else except themselves was it?

Anyways, short, simple, accurate, good post Freeman.

Since: Aug 25, 2006
Posted on: July 29, 2009 4:05 pm

Brett Favre: great player, kinda' petty

hqic ... THE END. Good bye to Walter Cronkite who said, That's the way it was ..."

Since: Jun 19, 2008
Posted on: July 29, 2009 2:23 pm

Brett Favre: great player, kinda' petty

Favre wanted to come back to the Packers. They wouldn't let him. Their fault, not his.

Hehe... nice try on the logic there, Vikings fan (WTF_GWB)...  how about this:

I want a million dollars.  The bank won't let me.  MY FAULT, NOT THEIRS.

You want to date Jessica Simpson.  She won't let you.  YOUR FAULT, NOT HERS.

You see, you have this notion that the Packers should have just put up with it and let Favre back in and say goodbye to Rodgers (who I'm sure would not have signed a contract extension and would now be playing for the 49ers, having become a free agent and gotten screwed by the Packers).  But here's what actually happened:

Packers: Hey, Brett, what's your plan for '09?
Favre: I don't know, can I get back to you?

Packers: Hey, Brett, any word?
Favre: If I had to make a decision right now, I'd retire
Packers: Well, maybe we could do some alterations to camp schedule to reduce your number of snaps, but in any case, why don't you take a few more days.

Favre (to Packers): I'm retiring.
Packers: Do you need more time?
Favre: No, I'm retiring.  I can't commit 100%
Packers call Favre a day later, make arrangements for Favre to fly to Green Bay for a press conference.
Favre retires on March 6.
About three weeks later, Favre asks Packers OL Coach, James Campen, if he thinks the Packers would take him back.  Campen reports this to McCarthy, who calls Favre and hears it straight from him.
On the 27...
Packers: OK, we've talked it over and would be fine with you coming back.  We would like to talk to you about it, so let's make arrangments for us (McCarthy and Thompson) to visit you in Mississippi.
On the 29th, Favre calls the Packers...
Favre: Dianna and I had a long talk and we're going to stick with retirement.

Three months go by...  During that time, the Packers expend a 2nd round draft pick on Brian Brohm, when they needed DL, OL and CB help.  The Packers run all their OTAs and weight & conditioning programs with Rodgers as the new QB.  Rodgers responds well, works hard to earn the trust of his teammates.  The Packers adjust much of the offensive packages to account for differences between Favre and Rodgers.  The Packers begin making arrangements to honor Favre by retiring his number during the season opener in which the Packers will host the Vikings.

20th... Favre calls Mike McCarthy...
Favre: Hey, Mike... Uh, listen, I might, maybe, possibly, want to play again, let's talk about a bunch of "what-ifs".
Packers: Well, Brett, it's a little late now.  We've already committed to Aaron Rodgers... you know, that kid you never talked to?
The Packers don't tell Favre no, but don't say yes either.  Favre cannot commit 100%.... in any case, Favre isn't asking to come back... just talking.

4th... Favre texts Thompson asking to talk.  Thompson is on vacation and says, can we talk Monday?  Favre says OK.

7th... Favre never contacts Thompson on Monday.  Thompson texts Favre multiple times to ask what's up.  Thompson asks for a conference call at noon on Tuesday and sets that up.

8th... The conference call between the Packers and Favre has a guest... Bus Cook.  Cook asks for the Packers to release Favre.

11th... The Packers receive a letter from Favre and Cook formally asking for his release.


So, drop the notion that Favre was kicked out of Green Bay, or not wanted, or shown the cold shoulder.  Favre did this to the Packers, not the other way around.

Since: Mar 30, 2008
Posted on: July 29, 2009 1:13 pm

Brett Favre: great player, kinda' petty

This was in response to hgic's comment.

Since: Mar 30, 2008
Posted on: July 29, 2009 1:10 pm

Brett Favre: great player, kinda' petty

A. Favre wanted to come back to the Packers. They wouldn't let him. Their fault, not his. They are the "bad guys."

B. Favre is not going to "disappear into obscurity." He's, ya know, a Hall of Fame QB. One of the best ever. I have a feeling we will be seeing Wrangler commercials for a long time.

Carry on.

Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: July 29, 2009 12:28 pm

Brett Favre: great player, kinda' petty

How is his calling Favre one of the best of all time racist?  It seems like Freeman is accused of racism in every single one of his posts.  Sometimes it is warrented.  How did this article have anything to do with race?  You could certainly make an argument that for other QBs (Montana, Marino, maybe Brady some day) ahead of Favre, but he is one of the best.  He did not say one of the 5 best behind Moon, Cunningham, McNabb and McNair, he just said one of the top 5.  Why is race an issue in this column? 

Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: July 29, 2009 12:23 pm

Brett Favre: great player, kinda' petty

Skyhawk,  great post.  I love it when brett lovers compare situations that aren't even comparable.  Michael Jordan did sit out after he retired. Michael Jordan didn't hold teams hostage or disrespect anybody. He came back the second time to the team he had money into as an owner.  He didn't lead anybody on or constantly have the media involved.

The fact he demanded an outright release from Greenbay when he knew the Vikings were interested at the time is the biggest shot in the face he could have ever given the Packer fans that treated him like God for all of those years.

If he was a true packer and respected the fans, he wouldn't have held Greenbay hostage for that long. And after he did, he would have come back and re-negotiated his contract working as a backup to Rodgers to help him succeed and make the team that GAVE HIM EVERYTHING better. If Rodgers would have gotten hurt, he could have had performance bonuses in his contract that allowed him to make his millions.

He always said it wasn't about the money. He always said it was about the game he loves. He proved it WAS ONLY ABOUT THE MONEY when he went to the Jets.  Anybody with a brain new the JETS HAD ZERO chance to get of the east and into the superbowl.. even favre knew  that. But he wanted... MONEY... nothing else.

Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: July 29, 2009 11:35 am

Brett Favre: great player, kinda' petty

Uh, did you not pay attention, THLR? He retired, then demanded his job back after the Packers had already committed to Aaron Rodgers. You don't do that. Then he asks the Packers to release him so he can become a Viking, Green Bay's second biggest rival only to the Bears. That is the very definition of treating Packer fans like garbage.
Then he almost went and did the same thing to Jets fans. The Jets, learning nothing from the Packers, actually gave Favre his release and then almost watched him join the Vikings.

The only pathetic thing was how big a diva Brett Favre was and is. This isn't at all like Michael Jordan's retirements. Michael Jordan unretired twice, yes, But when he retired, he actually stayed retired for a full season each time. He didn't hold teams hostage like Favre. After his first retirement, the only team he talked to was the Bulls. After his second retirement, it was the Wizards because he was part-owner. The two are completely different.

I lost a ton of respect for Favre, and like Freeman, I say good riddance.

Since: Aug 13, 2007
Posted on: July 29, 2009 11:02 am

Brett Favre: great player, kinda' petty

That would be like if you left CBS but still wanted to post No, it would be more like if he RETIRED from CBS, CBS hired his replacement, trained his replacement, employed his replacement for 4 months and then Freeman DEMANDED his job back. Like that.

So that's how Gregg Doyel got his gig...

I truly believe that for all Brett's greatness aside, he enjoyed the spotlight, the media and all the attention he was getting.
True that.  It's not like there's much else to enjoy when one lives in Mississippi.  Sadly, I doubt we've seen the last of it.  Stay tuned for the first episode of Brett Favre Soap Opera III -- on most of these stations immediately after the conclusion of the final preseason game.

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