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Brett Favre and the 'H' word

Posted on: October 31, 2009 4:55 pm
Edited on: October 31, 2009 4:57 pm
GREEN BAY -- Former Packer LeRoy Butler remembers the time, a few years back, when a group of Packers players from the 1996 Super Bowl team wanted to organize a reunion. It was a nice idea but there was a problem.

When some former players phoned Favre and left messages for him, he didn't return their calls.

Some players weren't surprised they didn't hear from the All-Universe thrower. After all, Favre used to dress in a different locker area from the rest of the team.

The rift between Favre and the current Packers management may have started quite simply. Favre wasn't treated like a diva, and he took offense, and the relationship degraded from there.

Favre proponents believe he is a sincere warrior; Favre realists know better, understanding that Favre's ego is as potent as his arm.

The 'H' word is hate. Do some on both sides hate each other?

Probably not but there also isn't a great deal of like between former Packers players, current management and Favre.

The nerves were again exposed when Favre said this Minnesota team was the best he ever played on. It was met with a swift rebuke by some of Favre's former teammates who took genuine offense in interviews with the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

"To say that the team he's on now, after seven games, is better than the '96 team - that's just preposterous. Not only did we have the No. 1 defense in 1996, but we had No. 1 special teams," said Butler. "I bleed green and gold so much. I don't want somebody to beat my team. This is my team. I played 181 games, I was there before Brett, before Reggie White and Ron Wolf and everybody. This team means a lot to me, so when somebody calls up on the radio show: 'Brett Favre is the one that turned everything around' - it's almost a disrespectful slap in the face."

Said former tight end Mark Chmura: "I kind of went through the teams position by position and they just aren't as good as we were. And it all starts with Brett - Brett's not as good as he was. They have Adrian Peterson, but I think Chester Taylor is a guy. We had Dorsey (Levens) and Edgar (Bennett), that's pretty good balance. Our tight ends were clearly better (laughs). I may be biased. Their offensive line may be a little bit better. Our quarterback was 10 times better, our receivers were better, our special teams were much better.

"I mean, you're talking about the No. 1 defense in the league at that time, maybe one of the best defenses ever to play the game. Don't get me wrong. Favre is still a good quarterback, but he was unbelievable in the day. When we played back then, teams feared us. I don't know if teams fear the Minnesota Vikings today. We knew no one could beat us at home, absolutely nobody."

Then Chmura added: "I'm still green and gold all the way. I hate Minnesota; I can't stand Minnesota. I don't care if Brett is playing there. It didn't bother me, him with the Jets. But Minnesota I know personally I could never do it. I would just retire."

And that's what some of Favre's former teammates don't get and what makes them so angry at Favre. The Vikings? Really? The Vikings? Of all teams?

The game between Favre and his old team is big but it's not the game itself that makes this contest so fascinating. What's more important is that the game serves as a sort of gauge that measures the relationship between Favre, his old team and the fans.

It seems that some of Favre's teammates -- and not just a few of them -- aren't the biggest Favre fans.

Is it hatred? No.

But it's probably close.

Category: NFL

Since: May 4, 2009
Posted on: November 8, 2009 4:37 pm

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

HA HA!!!

The Packers lost to the lowly Buccaneers!!!

HA HA!!!


6 more sacks!!!

3 interceptions!!!

Perhaps this thread should be called "Aaron Rodgers and 'H' words"...




Or, my personal favorites...

Wait for it....

HA HA!!!

Since: May 4, 2009
Posted on: November 7, 2009 10:03 am

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

Actually, I was surprised that no flag was thrown on the play where Harris almost ripped Berrian's head off.  Glad to see that he at least got fined for the action...

Since: May 4, 2009
Posted on: November 7, 2009 10:01 am

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

Temper, temper...

Since: May 4, 2009
Posted on: November 7, 2009 5:46 am

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

Favre was named "FedEx Air Player of the Week"...

Perhaps the "H" word should be HONOR?

Seems so to me.

Since: May 4, 2009
Posted on: November 5, 2009 9:18 pm

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

Somebody's starting to get it...

Since: May 4, 2009
Posted on: November 5, 2009 8:44 am

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

The Keystone Kops...

Sort of reminds me of Murphy, Thompson and McCarthy...

Since: May 4, 2009
Posted on: November 4, 2009 5:26 pm

Brett Favre and the 'H' word


You say that the Packers' offensive line played their usual sloppy game...

In case you haven't heard, that's NOT what Mike McCarthy OR the announcers were saying.  BOTH McCarthy and the announcers have blamed RODGERS for holding on to the ball for too long.  Why the difference of opinion?  It seems as if you're putting the blame in the wrong place (NOT just because of what McCarthy and the announcers said, but also because of what I witnessed with my own eyes).  Look, I really have no beef with Rodgers...other than I think that he's a disrespectful punk.  Did you see any of the highlights from the first Packers/Vikings matchup?  I'm specifically speaking of the highlights that showed Rodgers before the game, nodding his head and making eye movements that seemed to suggest that this was the time that he was going to put Favre in his place.  Aaron Rodgers will NEVER be in Favre's league.  As I said on another forum recently, there is a lot more to quarterbacking than just STATISTICS.  Rodgers may consistently put up good statistics, but he simply doesn't win least not against good teams.  I called into the major radio network in NYC not too long ago...a radio network where they VEHEMENTLY HATE BRETT FAVRE.  Even there, one of the biggest Favre haters admitted that there are several games over the last two seasons that the Packers would have won with Favre at the helm instead of Rodgers.  Anyhow, I don't expect you to agree.  No, rather, you'll just continue to blame the offensive line.  Also, my beef is with IDIOTS like Mike Freeman, the author of this particular article.  People like him, and they're a dime a dozen, seem to live for no other reason than to hope that Brett Favre fails.  As far as I'm concerned, people like Freeman need to get a life of their own.  My DELIBERATE "childishness" is to hopefully show such individuals just how pathetically stupid they really are.  You may not agree with my modus operandi, but at least admit that Favre is a far superior quarterback to Aaron Rodgers.  Can't do it?  Well, enjoy many years of mediocrity with the Packers then.  Take care.

Since: Aug 8, 2008
Posted on: November 4, 2009 9:26 am

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

WinkTo Mr. TomWest...
Where did all the Packer fans go? All I can do is speak for myself....and I chose to not to get into anymore internet word wars with you. it's obvious (to me) that you're one of those people that no matter're right. The ViQueens played a good game and the Packer O-line played their usual sloppy game....lots of penalties and no QB protection. Until the Packers get their O-line fixed, I fear we'll be 2nd or 3rd in our division this year.
Maybe somday we can have an intelligent debate on football. But until your 8yr old attitude matures, I won't be replying to any of your post any longer.

Since: May 4, 2009
Posted on: November 4, 2009 7:21 am

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

If football genies existed and I was granted three wishes...

1.  Brett Favre would be the MVP of the league this year (it could happen without any genie)
2.  The Favre-led Minnesota Vikings would win the Super Bowl this year (it could happen without any genie)
3.  Brett Favre goes into the Pro Football Hall of Fame AS A MINNESOTA VIKINGS' QUARTERBACK (doubtful that he would do it...where's the genie?)

Since: May 4, 2009
Posted on: November 4, 2009 7:15 am

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

"It seems that some of Favre's teammates -- and not just a few of them -- aren't the biggest Favre fans.

Is it hatred? No.

But it's probably close." - Mike Freeman

Guess again, Mikey.  DEEP DOWN INSIDE, Favre's ex-teammates on the Packers are wishing that he was still their quarterback.  Afterall, who wouldn't want to have a PROVEN WINNER behind center?  Oh, that's right...MARK MURPHY, TED THOMPSON & MIKE MCCARTHY...THE THREE STOOGES!!!

HA HA!!!

Enjoy the train wreck!!!

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