Blog Entry

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

Posted on: October 31, 2009 4:55 pm
Edited on: October 31, 2009 4:57 pm
 
GREEN BAY -- Former Packer LeRoy Butler remembers the time, a few years back, when a group of Packers players from the 1996 Super Bowl team wanted to organize a reunion. It was a nice idea but there was a problem.

When some former players phoned Favre and left messages for him, he didn't return their calls.

Some players weren't surprised they didn't hear from the All-Universe thrower. After all, Favre used to dress in a different locker area from the rest of the team.

The rift between Favre and the current Packers management may have started quite simply. Favre wasn't treated like a diva, and he took offense, and the relationship degraded from there.

Favre proponents believe he is a sincere warrior; Favre realists know better, understanding that Favre's ego is as potent as his arm.

The 'H' word is hate. Do some on both sides hate each other?

Probably not but there also isn't a great deal of like between former Packers players, current management and Favre.

The nerves were again exposed when Favre said this Minnesota team was the best he ever played on. It was met with a swift rebuke by some of Favre's former teammates who took genuine offense in interviews with the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

"To say that the team he's on now, after seven games, is better than the '96 team - that's just preposterous. Not only did we have the No. 1 defense in 1996, but we had No. 1 special teams," said Butler. "I bleed green and gold so much. I don't want somebody to beat my team. This is my team. I played 181 games, I was there before Brett, before Reggie White and Ron Wolf and everybody. This team means a lot to me, so when somebody calls up on the radio show: 'Brett Favre is the one that turned everything around' - it's almost a disrespectful slap in the face."

Said former tight end Mark Chmura: "I kind of went through the teams position by position and they just aren't as good as we were. And it all starts with Brett - Brett's not as good as he was. They have Adrian Peterson, but I think Chester Taylor is a guy. We had Dorsey (Levens) and Edgar (Bennett), that's pretty good balance. Our tight ends were clearly better (laughs). I may be biased. Their offensive line may be a little bit better. Our quarterback was 10 times better, our receivers were better, our special teams were much better.

"I mean, you're talking about the No. 1 defense in the league at that time, maybe one of the best defenses ever to play the game. Don't get me wrong. Favre is still a good quarterback, but he was unbelievable in the day. When we played back then, teams feared us. I don't know if teams fear the Minnesota Vikings today. We knew no one could beat us at home, absolutely nobody."

Then Chmura added: "I'm still green and gold all the way. I hate Minnesota; I can't stand Minnesota. I don't care if Brett is playing there. It didn't bother me, him with the Jets. But Minnesota I know personally I could never do it. I would just retire."

And that's what some of Favre's former teammates don't get and what makes them so angry at Favre. The Vikings? Really? The Vikings? Of all teams?

The game between Favre and his old team is big but it's not the game itself that makes this contest so fascinating. What's more important is that the game serves as a sort of gauge that measures the relationship between Favre, his old team and the fans.

It seems that some of Favre's teammates -- and not just a few of them -- aren't the biggest Favre fans.

Is it hatred? No.

But it's probably close.





Category: NFL
Comments

Since: May 4, 2009
Posted on: October 31, 2009 7:31 pm
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

Hey, don't get so hot and bothered by the truth.  Afterall, you wouldn't want your cheesehead to melt, would you?  The Vikings would probably be 7 -0 with Rodgers?  How do you figure that?  The guy is something like 10 - 12 as a starter.  Methinks you need some glasses (and a tranquilizer or two).  "Stating a fact"?  According to whom?  You?  No thanks.  Hey, I read this just earlier today:



There's at least one person who disagrees with your so-called "fact".  Here are some real FACTS, by the way.  From the first head-to-head competition between Favre and Rodgers:

Favre      
; 3 TD's, 0 INT's, 0 sacks, 77.4 completion %, 135.3 Quarterback rating
Rodgers   2 TD's, 1 INT,   8 sacks, 70.3 completion %, 110.6 Quarterback rating

THOSE are FACTS.  By the way, in case you missed it, Favre led his team to victory over Rodgers' team.

Anything else that you'd like to discuss?





Since: Dec 21, 2008
Posted on: October 31, 2009 7:31 pm
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

Dude, really?  You're a complete moron.  The Viking are a good team.  The Steelers proved that they are not yet elite in the NFL.  Favre has a QB rating of 102.2 right now.  Rodgers is 110.8 and his O-line is not as good as the Vikings.  Rodgers has thrown for more yards and has fewer picks.  Favre cost you that game in Pittsburg.  Rodgers does not do that.  The Packers have had a better QB than the Vikings for 15 straight years now.  Enjoy the fact that you will most likley win the division and may even get another chance to lose a Superbowl.  Won't happen if Drew Brees is healthy, but it could happen.



Since: Aug 16, 2006
Posted on: October 31, 2009 7:26 pm
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

You cant be serious right , Rogers hands down is way better then the old man right now , the Packers made the right choice , if Brett wanted to play then so be it , but when it comes to football its a team game . I believe Brett only went to NY so he could get to Minny as much as I respect the guy he should have never went to that team and the 96 Packers would have killed this viqueens team
GO Packers    31 - 14  Favre 3 INTS



Since: Dec 6, 2006
Posted on: October 31, 2009 7:18 pm
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

Last weeks loss to the Steelers was all on Brett Favre?  Really?

It was his fault the offensive line got him blindsided?

It was Favre's fault Chester Taylor let a pass go through his fingers and be intercepted? 

Really?  Did you watch the game? 

Neither of the turnovers that the Steelers returned for touchdowns were Favre's fault.

Some friends and I have a saying.  You can either watch a game intelligently or you cant.  Some fans seem to think their team should have won every game no matter what.  They say things like, "If so and so didnt return that punt for a touchdown we would have won."  "If he didnt throw that 80 yard touchdown pass we would have won."  "If he didnt get lucky and break all those tackles and scamper 40 yards for the TD we would have won."

Learn how to watch a football game intelligently before running off at the mouth.

Brett Favre didn't cause the Vikings to lose to the Steelers.




Since: Nov 25, 2007
Posted on: October 31, 2009 7:04 pm
 

Brett Favre is as big a fake as they come...

The rift between Favre and the current Packers management may have started quite simply. Favre wasn't treated like a diva, and he took offense, and the relationship degraded from there. --Mike Freeman
You are absolutely right, Mike.  Brett Favre had, long before that, become WAY too big for his britches; and I am convinced that is one of the biggest reasons that Mike Holmgren felt that he had to leave town.  Favre could do no wrong, even when he DID do wrong!  Many of the fans, in Wisconsin, fell in love with the noteriety that he brought to the team, and not really the man himself.  I never liked the guy, because he never seemed to be on the same page as the coach.  I lived through the Lombardi era, and that part of him was always hard for me to swallow!  Ray Rhodes never even had a chance in Green Bay, because Favre never thought he had to listen to him!  He personally got Rhodes fired, because he (Favre) was bigger than Rhodes --who was otherwise a pretty good coach!  Darrell Bevel (former Pack QB coach, and current Vikes offensive coordinator) is another one who Favre never listened to in Green Bay --and that is one of the reasons why I REALLY had to laugh about this whole Favre-Vikings marriage.  For a man who is the self-proclaimed "ultimate teammate," the guy has an icey-cold side to him, and it appears to me that that the longer he plays, the more exposed the real Brett Favre becomes. This weekend he has to face the fans of Green Bay, and THAT is important.  Those are the people that he really hurt, but who he never ever talked about!  There has to be a major guit trip riding around with the guy this weekend, and that, along with the natural grass, will do-in Favre and the Vikings.   

There is a lot of footabll left to play, and I think Favre's comment about "the best team" will come back to haunt him, in the end.  There are alot of big road games, on grass, to be played yet for the Vikings.  With Peterson as a virtual non-factor, you can bet that Favre will be picked plenty. 


Skol Vikings!!
Since: Oct 26, 2008
Posted on: October 31, 2009 6:51 pm
This comment has been removed.

Post Deleted by Administrator




Since: Oct 31, 2009
Posted on: October 31, 2009 6:33 pm
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

GET A CLUE!!!! Aaron Rodgers can't win by himself. If you had him you probably would be 7-0. Oh yea how many Superbowls have the Viqueens won? The old Packers comments are true, Adrian Peterson is the only thing you have that is clearly better than the 1996 Packers had. That is called stating a fact not being a crybaby!  The people doing stupid things with Farve items, I agree your idiots. Just  because a guy has an Ego problem is your actual crybably you should reach out to him not hate him!!!!!



Since: Apr 14, 2007
Posted on: October 31, 2009 6:33 pm
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

Sorry but aren't you the same Freeman who has yet to apologize about passing on and fostering the lies about Rush Limbaugh?

It took you this long to realize that Freeman makes up his stories?




Since: Apr 14, 2007
Posted on: October 31, 2009 6:30 pm
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

Why do men come here and pretend to be girls?

And that loss last week? That was all on Favre.

Didn't see the game did ya.



Since: Nov 20, 2006
Posted on: October 31, 2009 6:30 pm
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

Packers now hope they strike gold in the draft to upgrade weak spots. Back then Ron Wolf would bring in differemce makers like Reggie White in the offseason that he knew would upgrade those spots. Almost every year Favre would say this is the best team he has ever played on, so that comment wasnt shocking to hear. He is an amazing QB, but not the sharpest tool in the shed. Also the Vikings have brought in some great talent around him. Im a Packers fan first, even though its very hard to root now for them when I cant stand Ted Thompson or Mcrappy. I still bleed green and gold. So i hope that we destroy Favre and the Vikings.



The views expressed in this blog are solely those of the author and do not reflect the views of CBS Sports or CBSSports.com