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Brett Favre and the 'H' word

Posted on: October 31, 2009 4:55 pm
Edited on: October 31, 2009 4:57 pm
 
GREEN BAY -- Former Packer LeRoy Butler remembers the time, a few years back, when a group of Packers players from the 1996 Super Bowl team wanted to organize a reunion. It was a nice idea but there was a problem.

When some former players phoned Favre and left messages for him, he didn't return their calls.

Some players weren't surprised they didn't hear from the All-Universe thrower. After all, Favre used to dress in a different locker area from the rest of the team.

The rift between Favre and the current Packers management may have started quite simply. Favre wasn't treated like a diva, and he took offense, and the relationship degraded from there.

Favre proponents believe he is a sincere warrior; Favre realists know better, understanding that Favre's ego is as potent as his arm.

The 'H' word is hate. Do some on both sides hate each other?

Probably not but there also isn't a great deal of like between former Packers players, current management and Favre.

The nerves were again exposed when Favre said this Minnesota team was the best he ever played on. It was met with a swift rebuke by some of Favre's former teammates who took genuine offense in interviews with the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

"To say that the team he's on now, after seven games, is better than the '96 team - that's just preposterous. Not only did we have the No. 1 defense in 1996, but we had No. 1 special teams," said Butler. "I bleed green and gold so much. I don't want somebody to beat my team. This is my team. I played 181 games, I was there before Brett, before Reggie White and Ron Wolf and everybody. This team means a lot to me, so when somebody calls up on the radio show: 'Brett Favre is the one that turned everything around' - it's almost a disrespectful slap in the face."

Said former tight end Mark Chmura: "I kind of went through the teams position by position and they just aren't as good as we were. And it all starts with Brett - Brett's not as good as he was. They have Adrian Peterson, but I think Chester Taylor is a guy. We had Dorsey (Levens) and Edgar (Bennett), that's pretty good balance. Our tight ends were clearly better (laughs). I may be biased. Their offensive line may be a little bit better. Our quarterback was 10 times better, our receivers were better, our special teams were much better.

"I mean, you're talking about the No. 1 defense in the league at that time, maybe one of the best defenses ever to play the game. Don't get me wrong. Favre is still a good quarterback, but he was unbelievable in the day. When we played back then, teams feared us. I don't know if teams fear the Minnesota Vikings today. We knew no one could beat us at home, absolutely nobody."

Then Chmura added: "I'm still green and gold all the way. I hate Minnesota; I can't stand Minnesota. I don't care if Brett is playing there. It didn't bother me, him with the Jets. But Minnesota I know personally I could never do it. I would just retire."

And that's what some of Favre's former teammates don't get and what makes them so angry at Favre. The Vikings? Really? The Vikings? Of all teams?

The game between Favre and his old team is big but it's not the game itself that makes this contest so fascinating. What's more important is that the game serves as a sort of gauge that measures the relationship between Favre, his old team and the fans.

It seems that some of Favre's teammates -- and not just a few of them -- aren't the biggest Favre fans.

Is it hatred? No.

But it's probably close.





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Since: May 4, 2009
Posted on: November 4, 2009 7:07 am
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

HA HA!!!

It gets even better...

For the second time this year, BOTH AFTER HEAD-TO-HEAD MATCHUPS AGAINST RODGERS/THE PACKERS, Brett Favre was named "Offensive Player of the Week":



Like I said, Rodgers is STILL Brett Favre's understudy...much to the chagrin of Packers' fans.

Face the facts, FAVRE was the Green Bay Packers...10 - 13 since he left.



Since: Mar 5, 2007
Posted on: November 4, 2009 4:52 am
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

chirp, chirp



Since: May 4, 2009
Posted on: November 2, 2009 5:45 pm
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

Hey...where did all of the Packers' fans go?

They sure were loud BEFORE the game...



Since: Nov 12, 2008
Posted on: November 1, 2009 8:08 pm
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

The only shame of the entire game was that it didn't turn out to be 42 to 17 or something like that. To the FudgePackers credit, they made it a closer game in the second half. But then again, Houdini struck and the Packers went down in flames again. Aaron Rodgers is to credit for this loss seeing that he played the entire first half basically lost. If the Vikings didn't fumble the squib kick, it would have been over sooner. The lineman with the ball should have dropped to the turf and stopped the play. But instead the gave Rodgers a shot to make it a game. Seeing that he was sacked 14 times in two games, it won't be long until he has Jim Everett syndrome with happy feet and getting smeared all the time. Then again, nothing surprises me with the Mike McCarthy/Mark Murphy/Ted Thompson brigade in Green Bay. Which is why the Packers are pretty much doomed to be another run of the mill .500 team for the next few seasons. They run a legend out of town that turned their dispicable losing ways into winning and playoff berths. Just like in 2007 when no one expected them to be a top contender or in 2002 or 2003.

If you look at the turnaround of the Packers franchise, it was all about Favre and Leroy Butler had nothing much to do with it. For anyone to credit Leroy or Marky Chmura with being the turnaround catalysts, its total nonsense. It took getting a franchise quarterback to have stability for those 16 seasons. Otherwise, the Pack would have been saddled with Don Majkowskis, Doug Pedersons and washups like they had in the past. Outside of Bart Starr and Lynn Dickey, they had no one prior to Favre. So the Green Bay fans that are crying about Favre, enjoy Rodgers and plenty of 8 and 8 seaons just grasping mediocrity.



Since: Nov 12, 2008
Posted on: November 1, 2009 7:58 pm
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

Looks like Brett Favre got the last laugh and it looks like Green Bay is going to end up 2nd or 3rd in the NFC North. See you next season Green BAY!



Since: May 4, 2009
Posted on: November 1, 2009 7:40 pm
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

HA HA!!!

I predicted the Vikings would win 38 - 31 and they won 38 -26.  I slightly overestimated the SLACKERS!!! 

SUE ME!!!

HA HA!!!

Oh, by the way...

BRETT FAVRE THREW 4 TD PASSES...

IN THE TWO GAMES AGAINST THE SLACKERS, HE THREW 7 TD PASSES AND NO INT'S...

THROW TED THOMPSON UNDER MCCARTHY'S "TRAIN"...

BETTER YET, JUST THROW HIM UNDER MCCARTHY...

HA HA!!!



Since: Nov 25, 2007
Posted on: November 1, 2009 2:25 pm
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

Rush Lipbalm?  Isn't that the guy who was taking drugs, and who lies about everyone else?  I heard a rumor that he is the illegitamate son of Joe McCarthy.  You remeber Joe, he was the last Republican puppet.



Since: Nov 25, 2007
Posted on: November 1, 2009 2:22 pm
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

Packers 42 Vikings 12



Since: Nov 1, 2009
Posted on: November 1, 2009 1:24 pm
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

that reply was aimed at AvengerGirl.... ^^^



Since: Nov 1, 2009
Posted on: November 1, 2009 1:23 pm
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

You should change your name to IgnorantGirl... When your running game gets slowed down, which it has in a few games this year, the team goes where Favre takes them. He has a bad day and it will end up a Loss. Some fan you are...

As for the Steelers game, only a clueless tool would put that loss on Favre. How about the tripping call that negated a TD, or the foolish penalties, or any of the other ways the entire team shot themselves in the foot. If the tripping doesn't occur, the fumble for a TD doesn't occur a few plays later and as for the second pitt defensive TD, i guess Favre was supposed to throw that to himself... too bad Chester got in the way. LOL, you ma'am are an idiot.


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