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Brett Favre and the 'H' word

Posted on: October 31, 2009 4:55 pm
Edited on: October 31, 2009 4:57 pm
 
GREEN BAY -- Former Packer LeRoy Butler remembers the time, a few years back, when a group of Packers players from the 1996 Super Bowl team wanted to organize a reunion. It was a nice idea but there was a problem.

When some former players phoned Favre and left messages for him, he didn't return their calls.

Some players weren't surprised they didn't hear from the All-Universe thrower. After all, Favre used to dress in a different locker area from the rest of the team.

The rift between Favre and the current Packers management may have started quite simply. Favre wasn't treated like a diva, and he took offense, and the relationship degraded from there.

Favre proponents believe he is a sincere warrior; Favre realists know better, understanding that Favre's ego is as potent as his arm.

The 'H' word is hate. Do some on both sides hate each other?

Probably not but there also isn't a great deal of like between former Packers players, current management and Favre.

The nerves were again exposed when Favre said this Minnesota team was the best he ever played on. It was met with a swift rebuke by some of Favre's former teammates who took genuine offense in interviews with the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

"To say that the team he's on now, after seven games, is better than the '96 team - that's just preposterous. Not only did we have the No. 1 defense in 1996, but we had No. 1 special teams," said Butler. "I bleed green and gold so much. I don't want somebody to beat my team. This is my team. I played 181 games, I was there before Brett, before Reggie White and Ron Wolf and everybody. This team means a lot to me, so when somebody calls up on the radio show: 'Brett Favre is the one that turned everything around' - it's almost a disrespectful slap in the face."

Said former tight end Mark Chmura: "I kind of went through the teams position by position and they just aren't as good as we were. And it all starts with Brett - Brett's not as good as he was. They have Adrian Peterson, but I think Chester Taylor is a guy. We had Dorsey (Levens) and Edgar (Bennett), that's pretty good balance. Our tight ends were clearly better (laughs). I may be biased. Their offensive line may be a little bit better. Our quarterback was 10 times better, our receivers were better, our special teams were much better.

"I mean, you're talking about the No. 1 defense in the league at that time, maybe one of the best defenses ever to play the game. Don't get me wrong. Favre is still a good quarterback, but he was unbelievable in the day. When we played back then, teams feared us. I don't know if teams fear the Minnesota Vikings today. We knew no one could beat us at home, absolutely nobody."

Then Chmura added: "I'm still green and gold all the way. I hate Minnesota; I can't stand Minnesota. I don't care if Brett is playing there. It didn't bother me, him with the Jets. But Minnesota I know personally I could never do it. I would just retire."

And that's what some of Favre's former teammates don't get and what makes them so angry at Favre. The Vikings? Really? The Vikings? Of all teams?

The game between Favre and his old team is big but it's not the game itself that makes this contest so fascinating. What's more important is that the game serves as a sort of gauge that measures the relationship between Favre, his old team and the fans.

It seems that some of Favre's teammates -- and not just a few of them -- aren't the biggest Favre fans.

Is it hatred? No.

But it's probably close.





Category: NFL
Comments

Since: Aug 8, 2008
Posted on: November 1, 2009 8:36 am
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

"The train has left the station"? -Loser of a coach?

sound familiar?
Yup. The ViQueens have had loser coaches for decades (except the year the Queens won the SuperBowl. What year was that again?)...and they have a loser coach still. Favre is the reason they're 7-0, it's not the coaching.

I'm not sure what train your talking about? I've bled green and gold since way before Favre and will continue to do so. If you're refering the people who are strickly Favre fans, and will support his ego, no matter what team he's on....then that's not a train I ride.

And why the Girlie-Boy comment? Are you one of the ignorant that believes looks make the man? Or are you secretly asking me out on a date?  Although I do appreciate the interest, men aren't my thing. If you perfer men, then that's cool...just know that I only date women.

Not sure what the scooter comment was about either. They move faster than what?
And..."assuming my cave has electricity."? How old are you....8?

I will be watching the game today. (thank you for reminding me Tongue out)...and in all fairness, it's going to be a heck of a game. The ViQueens won the last game because of the dropped TD pass (in the 4th qtr?) by one of our recievers. Had he held onto the ball, the game would've been ours.

"To each his own, I quess"....absolutely

It'll be an exciting game to watch, no doubt.
I just hope the ViQueens bring enough diapers and bottles to keep Favre happy (if they lose)...because if they don't, Favre may sulk and retire....again. Then where will MN be? T. Jackson or S. Rosenfels as the QB and eventually Childress losing his job. Then MN will have to go find another loser coach. Dennis Green is avaliable...maybe try him again?



Since: Sep 17, 2007
Posted on: November 1, 2009 6:41 am
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

THis is simple...Packers fans have no right to hate Brett Favre...THEY GOT RID OF FAVRE AND CHOSE RODGERS.  that is it.  Done, end of story, over...Because of this he can sign and play with what ever team he wants.  I don't care if it is the Vikings, Bears or LIons.  Same when Johnny Damon left the sox for the Yankees...The Redsox chose not to sign him.  He went to the Yankees and that is that.  I still like Johnny Damon.  I won't cheer for him and hope he strikes out every time but I still love Johnny Damon for what he did while with the Redsox.  A mock funeral? That is just ridiculous.  Brett Favre won a Super Bowl and have Green Bay a reason to cheer for football again.  It was either him or the Magic man!  Hate Brett Favre?  Just remember football in Green Bay before him...Yeah it was that bad...Brett Farve was shipped out...Sure he is struggling with retirement...I would too.  When it is your life it is hard to let go.  You know you can still do it but at 40 it is a bit harder to get out of bed.  BIt harder to heal from those bruises...But that competitive drive is still pumping.  His life and his talent...he can waffle all he wants as long as he continues to put hte bal in the endzone..whatever



Since: Mar 9, 2008
Posted on: November 1, 2009 2:33 am
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

So you are saying that Aaron Rodgers is a better QB but the Packers are not a better team?  Did you watch the Vikings/Pittsburg game?  Favre was not the reason the Vikings lost.  Not even close...you are just an upset Packer fan that wants it to be Farve's fault.  The only thing you can argue is the Packers have won Titles and the Vikings haven't.  The Packers were terrible in the years before Farve, the years after Lombardi.  The Packers were outstanding during Farve years.  Meanwhile the Vikings have been one of the most consistantly good teams year to year.  However, no titles makes it hard to brag about anything.  What do you care if Favre is a Viking.  Its obvious that you like Rodgers better and believe he is a better QB. 



Since: Aug 17, 2006
Posted on: November 1, 2009 2:25 am
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

I root for the VIkings to win but I root for Favre to have a bad day. And that loss last week? That was all on Favre.Then you're not a Vikings fan.  The Vikings winning rides a lot on the success of Brett Favre.  If you root for Favre to have a bad day, you are not rooting for a Vikes win.  The two go hand in hand most of the time.  Once in a while a QB will suck but the team will win, but you can't root against your QB but for your team.  Just doesn't make sense.

And last week was NOT Favre's fault at all.  The fumble was the O-line's fault.  The pocket collapsed around him.  The interception was a perfect throw that Chester Taylor decide to set right to the defender, much like a volleyball set.  He led them down field and Taylor botched a simple check down throw.

People are obsessed with Favre.  It's really sad.  The sports world - fans, media, former players, etc. - just can't stop talking about him.  He just wants to play football.  Get over it.



Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: November 1, 2009 2:20 am
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

I think this is one of the best comments i have seen in awhile, I totally agree with you.

How can people say Favre is done or that he sucks or hate the guy.  He went through a couple years of rebuilding with the Packers because well they had no one to play with Favre, but he got them back to 13-3 and the NFC title game and only a field goal away from the Superbowl.

Then even with a torn biceps the 9-7 record with the Jets still was a 5 or 6 win improvement for the Jets from the year before and if he had not had to play hurt the last 5 or 6 games of the year they would have made the playoffs and maybe a chance at the Superbowl that year.

He has only broken all the important passing records as well.  He has made no name receivers into big time receivers.

Bottom line is the guy loves to play and can still play at a high level, if he couldn't why would the Vikings have wanted him so bad??



Since: Mar 9, 2008
Posted on: November 1, 2009 2:17 am
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

That is not Tiki Barber, FYI



Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: November 1, 2009 2:15 am
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

what has he done that makes him stupid??  Don't just make a statement like that, i would like to hear what you think makes him stupid???



Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: November 1, 2009 2:14 am
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

how can you blame the loss at the Steelers on Favre??  The fumble maybe but he didn't see what he liked so he pumped and before i could let the pass go it was whacked out, but the screen pass to Taylor was on Taylor that it was intercepted.

Favre has won the close games for them before that one, it was him throwing a 32 yd pass with 12 seconds to go to beat the 49ers and it was him who drove the team for the winning field goal against baltimore, it was him who was almost perfect against the packers with almost 300 yds and 3 td's.

He hasn't turned the ball over much, 4 times in what 7 games, that is awesome and that game with the Steelers was super close and they could be 7-0.

Without Favre i bet the Vikings would be 4-3 right now and the packers would probably be 5-2 leading the divison but with Favre after they beat the packers on sunday they will have a 2.5 games lead on the divison



Since: Nov 1, 2009
Posted on: November 1, 2009 1:55 am
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

Ah yes, and his only source is a former rapist, I can see why your working for CBS




Since: Nov 1, 2009
Posted on: November 1, 2009 1:54 am
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

I agree, you can tell a writer sucks when their main source is a former rapist, but rapist, racist they are all the same for this guy


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