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Brett Favre and the 'H' word

Posted on: October 31, 2009 4:55 pm
Edited on: October 31, 2009 4:57 pm
GREEN BAY -- Former Packer LeRoy Butler remembers the time, a few years back, when a group of Packers players from the 1996 Super Bowl team wanted to organize a reunion. It was a nice idea but there was a problem.

When some former players phoned Favre and left messages for him, he didn't return their calls.

Some players weren't surprised they didn't hear from the All-Universe thrower. After all, Favre used to dress in a different locker area from the rest of the team.

The rift between Favre and the current Packers management may have started quite simply. Favre wasn't treated like a diva, and he took offense, and the relationship degraded from there.

Favre proponents believe he is a sincere warrior; Favre realists know better, understanding that Favre's ego is as potent as his arm.

The 'H' word is hate. Do some on both sides hate each other?

Probably not but there also isn't a great deal of like between former Packers players, current management and Favre.

The nerves were again exposed when Favre said this Minnesota team was the best he ever played on. It was met with a swift rebuke by some of Favre's former teammates who took genuine offense in interviews with the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

"To say that the team he's on now, after seven games, is better than the '96 team - that's just preposterous. Not only did we have the No. 1 defense in 1996, but we had No. 1 special teams," said Butler. "I bleed green and gold so much. I don't want somebody to beat my team. This is my team. I played 181 games, I was there before Brett, before Reggie White and Ron Wolf and everybody. This team means a lot to me, so when somebody calls up on the radio show: 'Brett Favre is the one that turned everything around' - it's almost a disrespectful slap in the face."

Said former tight end Mark Chmura: "I kind of went through the teams position by position and they just aren't as good as we were. And it all starts with Brett - Brett's not as good as he was. They have Adrian Peterson, but I think Chester Taylor is a guy. We had Dorsey (Levens) and Edgar (Bennett), that's pretty good balance. Our tight ends were clearly better (laughs). I may be biased. Their offensive line may be a little bit better. Our quarterback was 10 times better, our receivers were better, our special teams were much better.

"I mean, you're talking about the No. 1 defense in the league at that time, maybe one of the best defenses ever to play the game. Don't get me wrong. Favre is still a good quarterback, but he was unbelievable in the day. When we played back then, teams feared us. I don't know if teams fear the Minnesota Vikings today. We knew no one could beat us at home, absolutely nobody."

Then Chmura added: "I'm still green and gold all the way. I hate Minnesota; I can't stand Minnesota. I don't care if Brett is playing there. It didn't bother me, him with the Jets. But Minnesota I know personally I could never do it. I would just retire."

And that's what some of Favre's former teammates don't get and what makes them so angry at Favre. The Vikings? Really? The Vikings? Of all teams?

The game between Favre and his old team is big but it's not the game itself that makes this contest so fascinating. What's more important is that the game serves as a sort of gauge that measures the relationship between Favre, his old team and the fans.

It seems that some of Favre's teammates -- and not just a few of them -- aren't the biggest Favre fans.

Is it hatred? No.

But it's probably close.

Category: NFL

Since: Jun 5, 2008
Posted on: November 1, 2009 1:01 am

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

Sorry but aren't you the same Freeman who has yet to apologize about passing on and fostering the lies about Rush Limbaugh? To accuse anybody of "fostering lies" about Rush is a damn lie its self. LOL I mean besides sitting his fatass behind a chair and criticizing any and everything that doesn't live up/down to his standards what else does he do for you people to love him so much?

Since: Oct 18, 2006
Posted on: November 1, 2009 1:13 am

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

yes.  freeman is as stupid as the day is long...

Since: Aug 26, 2006
Posted on: November 1, 2009 12:55 am

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

It's so entertaining to read meathead posts from this bigot. If Favre were black, Mickey Mouse Freeman would defend him to his last breath--you know, the way he's defended those pigs Michael Vick and Michael Irving over his illustrious writing career.

The other thing is that four million of us live in the Twin Cities. This is our home, the Vikings are our football team, the Wild our hockey team, and the Twins our baseball team. These are the teams we tend to love. Why? Because these guys are our neighbors. And, while they may indeed play for the name on the back of their jersey to an extent, they're certainly playing for the name on the front of their jersey as well, and that name belongs to US! That's why we don't root for the Giants. Get it?

This is our team; this is our quarterback; for better or worse, this is our history; and if we win it all this year, this is OUR Super Bowl and MVP.

You're a loser and a blatant bigot, Freeman. Any idiot can cash a paycheck by writing controversy every week. Let's see you write something worthy for a change.

Since: Aug 22, 2008
Posted on: November 1, 2009 12:43 am

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

for all the green bay fans out their. the way you talk about Our quarterback it'd seem you were brett favre fans for 16 years.

Since: Nov 1, 2009
Posted on: November 1, 2009 12:25 am

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

This guy really did his homework and I could not agree more!!! You are spot on!!! This organization is a joke and and deep down EVERY Vikings fan young and old knows the history this guy mentioned. Their losing ways are only matched in professional sports history by the Chicago Cubs. I'm glad the truth is out there because all the homers and media outlets in Minnesota try to cover it up year after year.

Since: Jun 27, 2008
Posted on: November 1, 2009 12:16 am

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

In typical Mike Freeman fashion, he completely mis-quotes someone.  Brett Favre never said that this years Vikings are a better team than the 1996 Packers.  He said that the current Vikings team is the most TALENTED team he has ever played for.  The most talented team does not always equal best team.  Several years in a row people were calling the Chargers the most talented team in the NFL, yet they never won a Super Bowl.  The Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 2003 were the most talented team in the NFL, yet they failed to make the playoffs.  Talent does not mean best.

There are other factors that go into the success of a football team.  1)  Head coach, the 1996 Packers had Mike Holmgren, Holmgren is far, far better than Brad Childress.  2)  Attitude, the players may have a large ego.  3)  Intelligence, the most talented Quarterback in the NFL might possibly be Jamarcus Russell, that doesn't make him the best QB in the NFL.

Compare the Vikings to the '96 Packers in terms of sheer talent, you may have a case.  Our D-line, is loaded, sure the '96 team had Reggie White.  The Vikings have Allen and the Williams wall.  Both Greenway and Henderson are solid Linebackers.  Our offensive line is probably better.  Our running backs are better.  The recievers are about even.  Favre was better then due to being younger.  In the end their is a case to be made that this year's Vikings are more TALENTED than any of Favre's former teams.  Although, they probably are not the BEST team that Favre has played for.

Since: Dec 28, 2006
Posted on: November 1, 2009 12:07 am

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

the fact you took the time to write this kills your credibility.  I am peeing my pants laughing to know a guy like you exists. 

Since: Sep 5, 2007
Posted on: October 31, 2009 11:26 pm

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

also no hard feelings avengersgirl i was just talking like stephen a smith.. lol

Since: Aug 18, 2000
Posted on: October 31, 2009 11:19 pm

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

Actually you can place part of the blame on Favre.  He dumped that screen off too fast and too hot.  Fact is, he panicked and fired the screen off before Taylor was ready.

Since: Sep 5, 2007
Posted on: October 31, 2009 11:05 pm

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

that was in response to

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