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Brett Favre and the 'H' word

Posted on: October 31, 2009 4:55 pm
Edited on: October 31, 2009 4:57 pm
 
GREEN BAY -- Former Packer LeRoy Butler remembers the time, a few years back, when a group of Packers players from the 1996 Super Bowl team wanted to organize a reunion. It was a nice idea but there was a problem.

When some former players phoned Favre and left messages for him, he didn't return their calls.

Some players weren't surprised they didn't hear from the All-Universe thrower. After all, Favre used to dress in a different locker area from the rest of the team.

The rift between Favre and the current Packers management may have started quite simply. Favre wasn't treated like a diva, and he took offense, and the relationship degraded from there.

Favre proponents believe he is a sincere warrior; Favre realists know better, understanding that Favre's ego is as potent as his arm.

The 'H' word is hate. Do some on both sides hate each other?

Probably not but there also isn't a great deal of like between former Packers players, current management and Favre.

The nerves were again exposed when Favre said this Minnesota team was the best he ever played on. It was met with a swift rebuke by some of Favre's former teammates who took genuine offense in interviews with the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

"To say that the team he's on now, after seven games, is better than the '96 team - that's just preposterous. Not only did we have the No. 1 defense in 1996, but we had No. 1 special teams," said Butler. "I bleed green and gold so much. I don't want somebody to beat my team. This is my team. I played 181 games, I was there before Brett, before Reggie White and Ron Wolf and everybody. This team means a lot to me, so when somebody calls up on the radio show: 'Brett Favre is the one that turned everything around' - it's almost a disrespectful slap in the face."

Said former tight end Mark Chmura: "I kind of went through the teams position by position and they just aren't as good as we were. And it all starts with Brett - Brett's not as good as he was. They have Adrian Peterson, but I think Chester Taylor is a guy. We had Dorsey (Levens) and Edgar (Bennett), that's pretty good balance. Our tight ends were clearly better (laughs). I may be biased. Their offensive line may be a little bit better. Our quarterback was 10 times better, our receivers were better, our special teams were much better.

"I mean, you're talking about the No. 1 defense in the league at that time, maybe one of the best defenses ever to play the game. Don't get me wrong. Favre is still a good quarterback, but he was unbelievable in the day. When we played back then, teams feared us. I don't know if teams fear the Minnesota Vikings today. We knew no one could beat us at home, absolutely nobody."

Then Chmura added: "I'm still green and gold all the way. I hate Minnesota; I can't stand Minnesota. I don't care if Brett is playing there. It didn't bother me, him with the Jets. But Minnesota I know personally I could never do it. I would just retire."

And that's what some of Favre's former teammates don't get and what makes them so angry at Favre. The Vikings? Really? The Vikings? Of all teams?

The game between Favre and his old team is big but it's not the game itself that makes this contest so fascinating. What's more important is that the game serves as a sort of gauge that measures the relationship between Favre, his old team and the fans.

It seems that some of Favre's teammates -- and not just a few of them -- aren't the biggest Favre fans.

Is it hatred? No.

But it's probably close.





Category: NFL
Comments

Since: Mar 5, 2007
Posted on: October 31, 2009 9:06 pm
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

Holmgren left to become a GM.

Ray Rhodes was a horrible coach.  You're lucky Favre drove him out of town (IF he did), or Rhodes would have the Pukers not make the playoffs 3 years in a row, or however long it took them to figure out Rhodes was not a good HC.

I think TED THOMPSON hurt GB more, and it is HE who will be facing some angry fans after the Vikings sweep the Pack.  I don't think there is a guilt trip, I think there is a real desire to stick it to TED.  Favre is looked up to by people that might have been let go from their job because of their age.

Favre has always played well on grass.  Why would you say Peterson as a "virtual non-factor", he is the BEST RB in the league.  You can bet Peterson will be a factor in the Vikes winning the division.  Favre is throwing very few INTs, I think it is desire, motivation, and having Peterson. 



Since: May 4, 2009
Posted on: October 31, 2009 8:59 pm
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

probowla:

Why are you mentioning the Vikings' schedule?  The Vikings and Packers face 12 of the same exact teams this year, plus each other twice.  That only leaves two other games.  Here's the difference:

Packers - Dallas and Tampa Bay
Vikings - NY Giants and Carolina

Your point?

If anything, the Vikings' schedule is slightly harder than the Packers' schedule.



Since: Aug 4, 2009
Posted on: October 31, 2009 8:32 pm
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

"Rocket-surgery"?????  Don't you mean Rocket Science, you doof?  heh-heh.  Good article, but just like the Vikes, you found a way to screw it up.     &n
bsp;   Go Pack.



Since: Nov 8, 2006
Posted on: October 31, 2009 8:31 pm
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

The guy who said Farve didnt dump Chewey after the hot tub party, doesnt have a clue cause he wouldnt even return his phone calls for  a year,,according to Chewey.  One of his best friends is in deep trouble and Farve wont even return his calls.  Amazing consider a couple years earlier Farve would have been with him at the party.  Farve is a diva and this whole thing with the Packers started the year before he was traded and didnt want study film before games.  Farve lost it when management didnt pay him a visit during the off season and than didnt ask him if he wanted to extend the deadline to decide if he was going to retire or not.  Thats when he called Minn and the game was on to try and Green Bay to release so he could play for Minn to get even with Packer Management.  At times he makes amazing plays but for everyone of those you get a couple bad ones.  True champions dont make critical mistakes at the end of championship games.



Since: Oct 30, 2006
Posted on: October 31, 2009 8:27 pm
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

of course his jersey will sell. He is a dumb ass redneck as is 80 % ot the USA.

Nascar, guns  Favre  geez  yeah his popularity is staggering.

A lot of intelligent people backing him .

The guy is a has been.  He is very over rated and will crash and burn mark my words.




Since: Oct 31, 2009
Posted on: October 31, 2009 8:23 pm
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

I have had enough of you, and have granted you more attention that you deserve. No doubt, your passion is purple, so go ahead, and enjoy that. Sweet dreams, and have fun watching television tomorrow afternoon.




Since: Oct 31, 2009
Posted on: October 31, 2009 8:16 pm
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

Do you mean you cannot 'explain' on your own? What is your fetish and fascination with trains? You are a lame and fickle football fan who has been watching the World Series for the past several minutes, delaying your response to me. Your response to me is lame. You are lame. Get a chance. Buy a lottery ticket.




Since: May 4, 2009
Posted on: October 31, 2009 8:12 pm
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

TomNorth:

You're not sticking around?  Why not?  What's that?  You're boarding the Packers' train?  Do you have a window seat?  Have you noticed that the scenery isn't changing?  Somebody please explain to him what that means.  Thanks.




Since: Oct 31, 2009
Posted on: October 31, 2009 8:11 pm
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

Point taken, notable.




Since: Aug 23, 2006
Posted on: October 31, 2009 8:09 pm
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

 

Hey, don't get so hot and bothered by the truth.  Afterall, you wouldn't want your cheesehead to melt, would you?  The Vikings would probably be 7 -0 with Rodgers?  How do you figure that?  The guy is something like 10 - 12 as a starter.  Methinks you need some glasses (and a tranquilizer or two).  "Stating a fact"?  According to whom?  You?  No thanks.  Hey, I read this just earlier today:



There's at least one person who disagrees with your so-called "fact".  Here are some real FACTS, by the way.  From the first head-to-head competition between Favre and Rodgers:

Favre       
; 3 TD's, 0 INT's, 0 sacks, 77.4 completion %, 135.3 Quarterback rating
Rodgers    2 TD's, 1 INT,   8 sacks, 70.3 completion %, 110.6 Quarterback rating

THOSE are FACTS.  By the way, in case you missed it, Favre led his team to victory over Rodgers' team.

Anything else that you'd like to discuss?

while i think this whole topic is dumb and i really dont care that favre went to the vikings packers have there qb of the future so that will make 20 + years packers have had a great qb while the vikings bears and lions have had no one ( xept favre for 2 years)

Yes the vikings would be doing just as well with rodgers at the helm u can quat the 1st game stats all u want.   Some of your are saying that the fumble wasent favres fualt while i tend to agree then the same logic should be used when guys rip on rodgers for getting sacked 8 times


Rodgers 110.8 rating 1702 yards 65.8 completion 2 ints 
Farve     102.2 rating 1681 yards  68.9 completion 3 ints

Yea pretty sure they would be the same team




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