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Brett Favre and the 'H' word

Posted on: October 31, 2009 4:55 pm
Edited on: October 31, 2009 4:57 pm
 
GREEN BAY -- Former Packer LeRoy Butler remembers the time, a few years back, when a group of Packers players from the 1996 Super Bowl team wanted to organize a reunion. It was a nice idea but there was a problem.

When some former players phoned Favre and left messages for him, he didn't return their calls.

Some players weren't surprised they didn't hear from the All-Universe thrower. After all, Favre used to dress in a different locker area from the rest of the team.

The rift between Favre and the current Packers management may have started quite simply. Favre wasn't treated like a diva, and he took offense, and the relationship degraded from there.

Favre proponents believe he is a sincere warrior; Favre realists know better, understanding that Favre's ego is as potent as his arm.

The 'H' word is hate. Do some on both sides hate each other?

Probably not but there also isn't a great deal of like between former Packers players, current management and Favre.

The nerves were again exposed when Favre said this Minnesota team was the best he ever played on. It was met with a swift rebuke by some of Favre's former teammates who took genuine offense in interviews with the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

"To say that the team he's on now, after seven games, is better than the '96 team - that's just preposterous. Not only did we have the No. 1 defense in 1996, but we had No. 1 special teams," said Butler. "I bleed green and gold so much. I don't want somebody to beat my team. This is my team. I played 181 games, I was there before Brett, before Reggie White and Ron Wolf and everybody. This team means a lot to me, so when somebody calls up on the radio show: 'Brett Favre is the one that turned everything around' - it's almost a disrespectful slap in the face."

Said former tight end Mark Chmura: "I kind of went through the teams position by position and they just aren't as good as we were. And it all starts with Brett - Brett's not as good as he was. They have Adrian Peterson, but I think Chester Taylor is a guy. We had Dorsey (Levens) and Edgar (Bennett), that's pretty good balance. Our tight ends were clearly better (laughs). I may be biased. Their offensive line may be a little bit better. Our quarterback was 10 times better, our receivers were better, our special teams were much better.

"I mean, you're talking about the No. 1 defense in the league at that time, maybe one of the best defenses ever to play the game. Don't get me wrong. Favre is still a good quarterback, but he was unbelievable in the day. When we played back then, teams feared us. I don't know if teams fear the Minnesota Vikings today. We knew no one could beat us at home, absolutely nobody."

Then Chmura added: "I'm still green and gold all the way. I hate Minnesota; I can't stand Minnesota. I don't care if Brett is playing there. It didn't bother me, him with the Jets. But Minnesota I know personally I could never do it. I would just retire."

And that's what some of Favre's former teammates don't get and what makes them so angry at Favre. The Vikings? Really? The Vikings? Of all teams?

The game between Favre and his old team is big but it's not the game itself that makes this contest so fascinating. What's more important is that the game serves as a sort of gauge that measures the relationship between Favre, his old team and the fans.

It seems that some of Favre's teammates -- and not just a few of them -- aren't the biggest Favre fans.

Is it hatred? No.

But it's probably close.





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Comments

Since: Oct 31, 2009
Posted on: October 31, 2009 8:02 pm
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

ThomWest...................

Yes. Not trying, succeeding.

No.

I disagree.

I will not stick around to ‘compliment’ your finish.

You are not intelligent.

Define ‘ironic’.

Thank you, I will keep up the GOOD work.

You are welcome.

      
;     
-TomNorth




Since: Oct 31, 2009
Posted on: October 31, 2009 7:56 pm
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

chilly is not a good coach, so i disagree with you on that claim



Since: May 4, 2009
Posted on: October 31, 2009 7:56 pm
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

TomNorth:

YOU are trying to insult me?  It's a little late for that, don't you think?  You've already paid me the highest of compliments by mimicking my name.  Stick around...maybe some of my intelligence will rub off on you. 

P.S. How ironic that you quoted Tiki Barber, one of the biggest crybabies of all time.  Keep up the good work!



Since: Apr 28, 2007
Posted on: October 31, 2009 7:54 pm
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

Rant all you want but i wont have you call rodgers a dud...hes my fantasy team QB and im 6-1, thanks to his incredible play with a pitiful line.  Hes tough as hell for a guy that was labelled "injury prone" coming out of Cali.  Watch and see this year, who does better him or Favre.  The only reason Favre is having any success at all right now is that hes got the best RB, a good coach and good defense.  Oh ya, and the 4th easiest schedule in the league, correct me if I'm wrong.  That always helps.  I'll take Packers to win the division




Since: Oct 31, 2009
Posted on: October 31, 2009 7:54 pm
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

weak sauce, cannot you come up with better fuel.............seriously, urlame



Since: Jun 4, 2009
Posted on: October 31, 2009 7:53 pm
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

What are you smoking, all on Favre. Not even close. If it weren't for Favre we'd be like 3-4.



Since: May 4, 2009
Posted on: October 31, 2009 7:51 pm
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

Hey, Mr. GB (Girlie-Boy?) Packer Fan:

"The train has left the station." - Loser of a coach

Sound familiar?

"Train"?

I've seen scooters that move faster.

To each his own, I guess.

Don't forget to watch the game tomorrow...assuming that your cave has electricity.



Since: Oct 31, 2009
Posted on: October 31, 2009 7:48 pm
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

TomWest..................'Methinks..."???? What, are you the Neanderthal that 'we thought you were'!!!?




Since: Sep 14, 2006
Posted on: October 31, 2009 7:38 pm
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

You are right. Favre hit Chester Taylor in the hands. Bad pass (not). And if Favre does tackle the guy that intercepted the pass, the Steelers run the clock out so he was right to slide and not tackle him.  Without Favre and his 300+ yds passing, the Vikings don't stand a chance in that game.



Since: Aug 8, 2008
Posted on: October 31, 2009 7:37 pm
 

Brett Favre and the 'H' word

I guess I would just like to start off by saying, STFU.
It's quite obvious (to me) that you're a ViQueen fan, and feel the need to mouth off because you finally have a QB that has more talent than the 2nd stringer of a local High School football team. The mere fact that you call Rodgers a dud, says how little you know about football, and all the different aspects that make a QB good or bad. It's not only the quality of the QB, it's the quality of the O-line, RBs and WRs that make or break a QB.
The 13-3 season the Packers O-line was good and gave Favre protection. The 6-10 season the O-line was riddled with injuries. Not to mention our defence couldn't stop anyone (well, except for Kampman).
The comment Favre made about this years ViQueens being the best team he's ever played on is just wrong. The ViQueens were willing to give Brett the "diva attention" he needed. So he had to say something, oterwise the ViQueens would stop bringing him his baby bottle and changing his ego-filled diapers. The '96 GB SuperBowl winning team was BY FAR the best team he was on. It's just that Favre is finally getting the diva treatment he so badly craves.
Him going to the ViQueens was clearly a slap to the face of the GB organization. It's Favre's version of a temper-tantrum. The GB organization held onto their promise of giving the starting job to Rodgers, when "Mr retire-multiple times" wanted to come back, and Ted said sure...as the #2. Favre's ego couldn't handle it...so the diaper changing begun....the crying and sulking soon followed.
Hell...I can't believe I was sucked into an online war of words.
I'm done. Have a nice day, Mr TomWest...and please...feel free to fk-off at any time.


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