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Boxing about to screw up...again

Posted on: December 22, 2009 7:17 pm
The upcoming mega-fight between Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao might not happen because Mayweather says Pacquiao won't agree to Olympic style drug testing.

So, here we go, boxing shooting itself in the foot again.

The sport is so frustrating it makes you want to punch somebody.

The publicist for Mayweather, in an e-mail sent to the media and obtained by, says Pacquiao has refused to agree to Olympic style testing as outlined by the United States Anti Doping Agency for performance enhancing drugs. In those tests, both urine and blood are scanned for PEDs.

"I understand Pacquiao not liking having his blood taken, because frankly I don't know anyone who really does," Mayweather said in a statement. "But in a fight of this magnitude, I think it is our responsibility to subject ourselves to sportsmanship at the highest level. I have already agreed to the testing and it is a shame that he is not willing to do the same.

"It leaves me with great doubt as to the level of fairness I would be facing in the ring that night. I hope that this is either some miscommunication or that Manny will change his mind and step up and allow these tests, which were good enough for all these other great athletes, to be performed by USADA."

It never ends with boxing, does it?

This fight could completely re-energize the sport and the sport is screwing it up.

I can't blame Mayweather if what he says is accurate (and with boxing you never know). He wants to make sure the playing field is level. If he submits to more sophisticated testing, so should Pacquiao.

Look for this wrinkle to become a major hurdle. I still think the fight will happen -- there's too much money at stake -- but with boxing being boxing you never know.
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Since: Nov 11, 2007
Posted on: December 28, 2009 9:45 pm

Boxing about to screw up...again

You've clearly never entered a boxing ring. Anybody can put on mass, try keeping your 125 speed at 189, genius. The point is that in this day and age, elite athletes have been shown to cheat. Unfortunately, it has to put everyone under the microscope, and frankly, it should. If you're making $50M for a fight bc of the fans and sponsors, you should submit to testing. Of course, it's possible to put that weight on and remain lightning quick (with the insane cardio stamina required as well), but why not test to show us that it is?

Oh, and let me remind you...ESPN reported that PacMan submitted to similar testing about a week before the Hatton fight, so what's the problem in doing it now? Isn't it weird that he thinks it hurts his body now?

Since: Jun 17, 2007
Posted on: December 28, 2009 5:00 pm

Boxing about to screw up...again

The fight will be sanctioned by the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC) not the USADA.

Neither Pacquiao or Mayweather have ever failed a drug test by the Nevada State Athletic Commission.

The Nevada State Athletic Commission uses urine tests before and after fights to check for steroids and other performance-enhancing drugs. Additionally a blood test is required to earn a one-year license to fight in Nevada.

Leads me to ask why the Merriweather camp would try to make this an issue.

Since: Aug 19, 2006
Posted on: December 25, 2009 12:54 am

Boxing about to screw up...again

What the f***???  I see why your level is Amateur Soon2bti... whatever.

Since: Oct 3, 2009
Posted on: December 24, 2009 11:53 am



Since: Aug 20, 2007
Posted on: December 24, 2009 10:15 am

Boxing about to screw up...again

Milo, er Eistein, ANYONE can put on pounds - just supersize it!  And unless you are 6'2" you aren't svelt and certainly won't have near the definition that Pac Man does.  To put on 30 to 40 pounds from a teenager is somewhat unusual, to do it as an adult AND be a world class athlete is definately suspect.  If you open YOUR eyes and EARS you would know that cheating has been the norm in sports and ANYONE could be guilty of doing it.  Just because you hate one athlete or love another doesn't change the facts of that.

If you can be objective and remove the personalities you would be able to understand the issue here.  Its got nothing to do with who is fighting and everything to do with the issue of cheating.  Mayweather has gladly paid overweight penalties in the past so I have no idea what you could be talking about - check the record.  And those penalties were agreed to by BOTH fighters in the contract rendering your point irrelevant.  And what connection does and overweight penalty have to checking for a cheater anyway - enlighten me to what the negotiation is here?  You let me have more weight at a cheaper price and I will let you cheat?  Are you serious?

Before this issue came to light I liked the Pac Man.  But his reaction has shown that he may have something to hide and unfortunately in the sports world we now live in the burden of proof lies with the athlete. 

No test - acknowledgement of guilt.  Plain and simple.

Since: Dec 19, 2006
Posted on: December 24, 2009 9:26 am

Boxing about to screw up...again

"doesn't even detect Human Growth Hormone"

But that is exactly the point!  With basic testing, only the ridiculously obvious substances are caught.  Those are not the sorts of things millionaire athletes take.  They take new, designer compounds that will not be known/detectable for at least another 10 years.  With Olympic-style testing they KEEP SAMPLES ON FILE AND TEST RETROACTIVELY ONCE NEW METHODS BECOME AVAILABLE.  It doesn't help the opponent now, but if Mayweather were to lose a close fight and then it was discovered 10 years later that Pacqiaou was doping heavily with a substance that was not detectable at the time, history would consider Mayweather the better fighter.  This is about legacy, and fans who want to scream that Pacquiao is clean and has legitimate objections, or even more stupidly that drawing a tiny blood sample several days before the fight (they fill two small vials, not a pint like during blood donations) are ridiculous.

Clean athletes don't refuse testing.  As a previous poster pointed out, this testing is done on all Olympic athletes all the time.  Didn't make Bolt so tired he couldn't break the world record for sprinting (although I am absolutely positive that his stored samples will eventually test positive for something - nobody is THAT much better than every other human being on the planet at anything without assistance).

Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: December 24, 2009 1:07 am

Boxing about to screw up...again

Hey genius.... I was never on hgh or steroids and I went from 125 to 189 between 20 and 30 years old. Now I am a svelt 214 at 50 and your arguement holds absolutely NO water. I had a friend join the army at 130 and 2 years later he weighed 175 so do you think the ARMY gave him roids or just lots of food and massive excersize? I am so sick of this steroid crap especially here. Mayweather put on weight supposedly legit so why can't Pac Man? To put on 30 or 40 pounds over 10 years is not unusual nor does it require any special drugs but no we have to insinuate that EVERYBODY is using something what BS.
 Boxers are forced to continually box BELOW what they should actually/safely weigh to supposedly maximize their capability. 6' tall men should not weigh 130 pounds EVER!
 Mayweather should not be afraid of Manny because he is the naturally larger man but it seems to me that he is simply afraid and is making these demands so that he can eliminate the HUGE overweight penalties the pac camp is asking for. Plain and simple it is a negotiation tool nothing more, nothing less. Maybell wants to be able to come in as big as he wants to assure himself that he can beat this little man. He is a coward and a bully, a no good street hood and I hope he gets beat badly. Heck, he would not even be out here if it were not for the IRS. I used to be a fan of his but I have grown very tired of his BS. Open your eyes!!!!

Since: Aug 20, 2007
Posted on: December 23, 2009 11:46 pm

Boxing about to screw up...again

This isn't about Mayweather - if someone else made this request would Manny (like Ramirez?) submit?  This about having a fair playing field.  Someone that has nothing to hide would care less.  Someone who does will be afraid to submit.

Plain and simple. 

Since: Dec 23, 2009
Posted on: December 23, 2009 11:35 pm

Boxing about to screw up...again

As the famous biblical saying : "If anyone of you haven't sinned, let him cast the first stone!". Money May suddenly found the inspiration to be clean??? . . to be vanguard of clean and olympic sportsmanship. The public sees it! I see it! (just ask the quick slight of hand job they did to Marquez, playing around the weight issue against an older fighter that was fighting two weight classes above, what a jerk!) The required tests for boxing in Nevada (no exceptions, are a comprehensive urine tests before and after the fight). Granted, this is a historical fight. Manny agreed to the additional blood tests before (30 days) and just after the fight i.e. if Manny was using any illegal substance, it will clearly show in the blood just after the fight. Manny is not required . . but, agreed to the additional blood tests. That is Manny meeting Floyd half way. Given all the positioning and demand from both parties . . the fact that Manny is agreeing to additional tests (beyond what is required) is sufficient, if Money May can't meet half-way, then Roach is right. Money May is running scared, just see all the interviews that Camp Mayweather is throwing as smokescreen and insinuating slanderous allegations when their fighter is not even known to be a bastion of purity and the Mayweather camp more made up of people who have plenty of run-ins with the Law!.
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