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Owners lose again

Posted on: April 27, 2011 10:19 pm
Edited on: April 28, 2011 7:31 am
 
This is getting incredible. Who do the players have as their lawyer, Johnnie Cochran?

Because the players are racking up court victories the way the Peyton Manning collects passing records. On Wednesday night, Judge Susan Nelson denied the request of owners to stay her lockout ruling pending appeal to the higher court. In her 20-page decision she blasted the owners even harder than she did before.

If the stay doesn't fit, you must acquit.

The bottom line is that, for now, in these confusing times, Nelson's latest ruling offered more clarity. But what happens next depends on the owners. If they continue the status quo -- no free agency, no trades of players on draft day -- they risk Nelson's fury and potential contempt of court. Such a scenario is not out of the question. Not by a long shot. Nelson could impose some serious financial penalties.

The league insisted before the ruling they wouldn't change the current situation until their appeal of Nelson was ruled on by the higher court. This latest ruling by Nelson might change that stance.

The larger issue, the huge one, is that owners are being destroyed in court. It may be time for them to re-think their strategy.

The owners have to be wondering: what the hell is happening? In fact, I can tell you, some of them are.

The way Nelson is formulating these opinions makes it unlikely the owners will win their next sets of appeals. Not impossible, by any means. Sure, they could get on a win streak before a more conservative appellate court but the way things are going they surely can't be hopeful.

If this were a Muay Thai fight it would have been stopped in the first round after an elbow strike. If an NFL game, it's 30-0 at halftime.

No, it's not over but this is still getting incredible.




Category: NFL
Tags: Lockout
 
Comments

Since: Dec 11, 2009
Posted on: April 30, 2011 2:36 pm
 

Owners lose again

Wow,

I won't take to the dictionary trying to use big words like yourself.  Must have been why it took you so long to reply.

This judge, POS whore to you, was almost 100% predictable with her ruling.  Perhaps you and ONE other moron didn't expect what was coming.  I live in Minnesota.  Look into their rulings against the NFL on the Star Case with the Williams'.  Key word there, big guy, and not too big for you to understand, is AGAINST.

I thought the players were getting 58%, so rounding it up to 60% is forgivable.  If they are ONLY clamoring for 50%, God bless them.  Kind of hard to argue in good faith when you want the lion's share of the money, especially when you don't even OWN the business.  Might you try that move with your boss.  Then find the classifieds for the Help Wanted ads.

You are right, they aren't a union.  So would you care to make a wager on three things??  One, were they a union?  Second, was the only reason they dissolved(and I use that word sarcastically)was for the lawsuit?  Third, will they RESTORE the UNION after the lawsuit?  I am willing to gamble any amount of money on all three.  Please, let me know the amounts and where we can meet at.

Oh, and we can discuss your comments about me at the same time:)  It will be fun, I promise!!!

And again, perhaps you can show us in percentages the owners and players crime rates in comparison?  Just to be fair, I will offer up the first.  Aqib Talib.  Your turn!!!

Sorry, I didn't take to the dictionary to SMART up my post on a sports website.  In terms of the mordern world, my bad......

Now, back to your posters of the NFL heroes in your life planted firmly on your ceiling, happy boy.



Since: Feb 25, 2009
Posted on: April 29, 2011 4:35 am
 

Owners lose again

Thanks for pointing out the hate.  Oh, and the HAHAHA's you posted.  Insightful, really adding something to the conversation.  May I suggest sticking to posting in blogs more suitable for your low IQ, perhaps cartoon sitcoms???
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
This from the genius who brought you such intellectually towering bon mots as:
Because she is straight out a liberal POS whore
and:
Listen, I know, they deserve 60% of the profit, otherwise they would be CEO's of Microsoft, medical geniuses, accountants, etc.
(despite the players offering a 50-50 split)

Yes, Catfight3jim, you are the sublime and mature vicar of reason.
Pathetic. You don't have the slightest fucking clue what you're talking about, mostly because you're not talking about anything. You're just spraying accusations and intolerant, bigoted, willfully ignorant shit in every direction without a moment's consideration or prayer in hell of relevance. You want insight?
HERE:
Because she is straight out a liberal POS whore
...who was confirmed unanimously by the Senate, including the not-liberal Republicans. No, dipshit, she is a competent judge who understands a thing or two about business law, unlike you. If you DID understand anything about business law, I'm sure whatever tidbit you managed to cram through that thick skull and into the supercollider of dipshittery you call your head would have immediately followed your stupid, pig-ignorant, misogynistic, ad hominem labeling. Instead, we got more dumbfuckery, like:
who rules on behalf of a union(oops, they aren't a union, what can we call them since I am on my knees hoping to blow them), who want nothing better then to drive up ticket prices and concessions
Well, if they're not a union, then why did you call them one, brain trust? She ruled on behalf of the NFLPA, which, as you eventually pointed out (and thus contradicted yourself), is not a union . So she couldn't have ruled on behalf of a union, right? Idiot. Oh, and the NFLPA doesn't have shit to do with deciding the the price of tickets and concessions. More genius commentary from Doctor Dumbass.
Listen, I know, they deserve 60% of the profit,
Who explained this thing to you? When Barney the Dinosaur finished his song about the 2011 NFL lockout, did anyone bother to make sure you understood the first thing about it? I'm guessing not.
Now that the stupid whore
More evidence of your awesome IQ and a disturbing fascination with whores. Look, it was just a job, okay? Your mother still loved you no matter what she did for a living. Go get a hug from a friend or something. Or, more appropriate to your level, go get drunk and ride around looking for gays to bash while desperately trying to shove your true desires even deeper into the closet.
Hopefully the owners sell their respective teams and let these criminals find out about collective bargaining, and be arrested for what they were trained to do
Reezus Rice, but you are stupid. The NFLPA and the former union have/had a federally protected right to bargain collectively with the owners of the NFL franchises. You do realize that this infantile hissy fit you're throwing in favor of a bunch of people who don't care enough about you to even dislike you only shows how little you know about any of this, right? The whole run-on sentence-and-a-half-plus-another isn't even intelligible. It's just word salad. Sell the teams and the "criminals" will find out about "collective bargaining"? Non Sequitur . Does not follow. Might as well have written, "The owners have to shave their cats so the players understood string theory, and go skinny dipping with their Credit Reports". Next time, write down the "thought" and hand it to your teacher before posting.

Do you even listen to yourself? Waaah! Less than a dozen of 1,696 players (counting only the active rosters of the 2010 NFL teams) got into some trouble! 0.7% of the league, which is FAR less than the crime rates in even the safest of neighborhoods anywhere in the the United States! Waaah! Idiot.



Since: Dec 11, 2009
Posted on: April 28, 2011 11:25 am
 

Owners lose again

Lotus,

Thanks for pointing out the hate.  Oh, and the HAHAHA's you posted.  Insightful, really adding something to the conversation.  May I suggest sticking to posting in blogs more suitable for your low IQ, perhaps cartoon sitcoms???

Also, if you have someone a BIT smarter than you at home, have them check on the current offseason for these well-respected players.  Nevermind the shootings, stabbings, robberies, drug charges, etc.  That is just the media trying to keep these saints down.  Don't bother looking up the owners, the conspiracy police removed all evidence of their arrests the past few months.

Heck, pay these guys all the money.  Raise ticket prices, advertising, etc. so we can all light up their bank accounts.  I see MLB and their small payscale has worked out for that particular sport.........



Since: Jul 21, 2008
Posted on: April 28, 2011 6:49 am
 

Owners lose again

The NFL is like a large corporation with 32 franchises.  The only real difference is there are limited options for the employees.  The players could play in Canada, the AFL, or start their own league.  The later has been tried before but the players are free to try again.  The sad part is both sides are wrong. If you are going to base something on profit it also needs to be based on loss.  But the books need to be open. The NFL shares TV money and memorablia sales among the 32 teams (franchises).   From that perspective they are a large corporation and can regulate salaries, etc.  But maybe the NFL needs to be regulated much like the trucking industry, the utilities industry, the banking industry, and the telephone companies were. If you have a monopoly, you have regulation because there is no competition to keep ticket prices, etc, down for the consumer.



Since: Dec 10, 2006
Posted on: April 28, 2011 6:02 am
 

Owners lose again

Yes, I must say the extreme right wing should be locked in padded rooms because they are far more dangerous than the extreme left wingers.  Then again, don't ever expect anyone from the extreme right to even think about the things they say before they spout off at the mouth.



Since: Feb 25, 2009
Posted on: April 28, 2011 5:45 am
 

Owners lose again

Because she is straight out a liberal POS whore who rules on behalf of a union(oops, they aren't a union, what can we call them since I am on my knees hoping to blow them), who want nothing better then to drive up ticket prices and concessions.  Listen, I know, they deserve 60% of the profit, otherwise they would be CEO's of Microsoft, medical geniuses, accountants, etc.
Hahahahahahahahahaha....


Now that the stupid whore is called out for who she is, these pieces of trash wouldn't even be in line for collecting it.  Hopefully the owners sell their respective teams and let these criminals find out about collective bargaining, and be arrested for what they were trained to do.  Steal,
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Nothing but pure, Grade A, 100% stupid bigotry. Not even one fact or factish-like statement in the whole thing. Just angry, hateful, nonsensical, semiliterate crap. Garbage in, garbage out.



Since: Sep 13, 2007
Posted on: April 28, 2011 1:36 am
 

Owners lose again

How can Judge Nelson require the NFLPA to negotiate with the NFL and at the same time rule that the NFLPA is not a union representing its members in a labor dispute ?
where in the judges findings does she require the NFLPA to negotiate with the NFL? I thought her ruling was requiring the NFL to end the lockout and leaves the choice of how the NFL and the players will proceed up to them.

The owners have really put themselves in a difficult position. The league has enjoyed anti-trust protections for a long time, but now they are calling attention to the collusion which has been accepted up to now because of the CBA - which they walked away from.

These are business owners that are permitted to set wages (salary caps), restrict the movement of employees, and draft employees to a single team. Any other industry that had all the business owners acting in this matter would be wide open to both criminal (anti-trust laws) and civil actions. The NFL should have left well enough alone.

I thought it was a good system, all the teams were profitable and the parity rules were giving other teams a chance to become contenders. Yeah, the players are paid outrageous sums, but so what. It's not as if the owners would suddenly cut ticket prices or reduce the cost of their merchandise if the player's salaries were cut - the cba is what was making it all work and gave the legal system a plausible explanation for exempting the NFL from anti-trust laws not enjoyed by almost every other industry.

Some of you may not believe this but Judge Nelson is actually looking out giving the NFL a chance to keep things they way they were.



Since: Jan 4, 2007
Posted on: April 28, 2011 1:03 am
 

Pro Labor

The NFL is just another big corporation trying screw their work force. It's a systemic problem in our soceity. Corporate greed trumps individual workers greed in reprehensibilty every time in my opinion....and obviously in the opinion of the Judge Nelson and judge Doty before her. In your face NFL!



Since: Apr 28, 2011
Posted on: April 28, 2011 1:00 am
 

Owners lose again

hey owners--kiss our @$$ and move on   Kiss



Since: Dec 11, 2009
Posted on: April 28, 2011 12:49 am
 

Owners lose again

Because she is straight out a liberal POS whore who rules on behalf of a union(oops, they aren't a union, what can we call them since I am on my knees hoping to blow them), who want nothing better then to drive up ticket prices and concessions.  Listen, I know, they deserve 60% of the profit, otherwise they would be CEO's of Microsoft, medical geniuses, accountants, etc.

Now that the stupid whore is called out for who she is, these pieces of trash wouldn't even be in line for collecting it.  Hopefully the owners sell their respective teams and let these criminals find out about collective bargaining, and be arrested for what they were trained to do.  Steal,


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