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Posted on: June 2, 2011 9:54 am
 
HOPE: That is a word that's being used repeatedly on Thursday by officials from both the owner and player side. When both are speaking the same language there's likely some progress being made. And that's what's happening. Progress is being made. Not PR progress. Not phony progress. Serious progress in ending this nasty and protracted battle, I'm told by multiple sources.

This doesn't mean a deal is imminent but as one high ranking member of the trade association said to me via text: "This is the first time in many months I feel like we're headed in the right direction."

They still may not get an agreement for months to come but this is the most hopeful I've heard many of the key players in this battle be in quite some time.

This is why. I've been able to confirm that owners and members of the trade association have had (not so) secret meetings in Chicago this week.

But there's another caveat that hasn't been reported until now and it's the most interesting aspect. Both Roger Goodell and DeMaurice Smith have been asked repeatedly by their respective constituents to make sure no games are missed. I'm told more reasonable owners who also have more to lose (Robert Kraft and Jerry Jones among them) have been able to quell more hard line owners and convince trade association officials that owners are sincere in getting something done.

Meanwhile, Smith has been approached by players, I'm told, that now is a prime opportunity to get a deal done. Smith has also become more open to talking since the 8th circuit setback a few weeks ago.

So, rather organically and individually, cooler heads are prevailing on both sides.

Does a deal get done now? No way. But, again, I'm told progress is being made. Let's be clear, however. Things are still contentious. This could all break down any moment.

Still, both sides say there's hope, and when is the last time you heard that word.


Category: NFL
Comments

Since: Feb 14, 2008
Posted on: June 2, 2011 3:40 pm
 

The Daily Shoutout

Actually, the players do not want more money, the owners do. The players were perfectly happy with the situation (CBA)as it was. The owners opted out and locked the doors.

A better analogy would be you are an employee making $30 an hour, the boss demands you work for $25 an hour. Also the 40 hour work week just became a 45 hour work week.
Your analogy is also wrong. A better analogy would be if you are an employee that started at $20 an hour and was getting automatic 25-30% raises every year, and your boss says that you need to roll back some of those raises, at which point you can start getting big raises again. Very different scenario.

When one side is really happy with a deal, and the other is really unhappy, it is usually a clear sign that the deal was biased towards the happy people. When the CBA was signed, the players were getting around 48% of revenue (not profit). Now, they are closer to 52%, and as the revenue goes higher, so does their share. The players don't have to want more money, because they were already getting it, not just due to the growth in revenue in the NFL, but also due to their increasing share.




Since: Sep 23, 2009
Posted on: June 2, 2011 2:16 pm
 

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Go, lock out go....maybe they can play some good old (pre-1970) movies instead, I will however miss my boredom enduced naps on Sunday afternoons :(




Since: May 14, 2011
Posted on: June 2, 2011 2:04 pm
 

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First a correction. The CBA was to be through the 2012 season.

I hate to play semantics, but there is a difference between opting out of an agreement and the agreement expiring. Just as there is a difference between being locked out and being on strike. These concepts are too often confused here.



Since: Jul 22, 2008
Posted on: June 2, 2011 1:58 pm
 

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wind Chill

Uh isn't that what opt out clauses are for? They had an out out for a reason. Like I said I'm not for either side I just want them to play football again. They both make more than enough money and it is the fans that are getting screwed. It is both greedy sides fault and UNIONS SUK plain and simple there time has come and gone. We don't need them anymore.



Since: May 14, 2011
Posted on: June 2, 2011 1:54 pm
 

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T-Time

Actually, the CBA dosn't expire until the end of the 2013 season.  It did, however have an opt-out clause that the owners are using for the lockout. Like I said before---they had a deal and the owners opted out.



 



Since: Jan 24, 2007
Posted on: June 2, 2011 1:50 pm
 

Why you are a rookie

I live in Tn and we have gotten rid of unions already and live in prosperity! Go take a hike and shove it! Unions doing NOTHING except add costs! They are NOT for productivity and NEVER produce ADDED benefits. Stay in a union forced state and pay high state income taxes to support lazy,non-productive union workers. I will stay in Tn and spend my money on ME and keep adding jobs,companies and people from union forced states to Tn tax base.



Since: Jul 22, 2008
Posted on: June 2, 2011 1:46 pm
 

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wind Chill they didn't have an agreement anymore it expired. I am not on either side but if the players were so concerned about getting something done why did they dissolve the union and go to litigation? they are just as responsible for this as the owners. All this is going to do is raise ticket prices as well asmake us pay more to watch it on TV. Again it is the fans that are getting screwed not the owners or players.



Since: Jul 22, 2008
Posted on: June 2, 2011 1:39 pm
 

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WTF?  I think you are in the wrong place.



Since: Jul 22, 2008
Posted on: June 2, 2011 1:37 pm
 

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WTF?



Since: May 14, 2011
Posted on: June 2, 2011 1:19 pm
 

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SukLess

You are absolytely right.

I was responding to the anti union comments made by a less honorable poster.

If you want to claim that the owners take all the financial risks, you can make that claim. However, if there is an economic downturn, that does not diminish your contractual obligations. The profit may be lower (wich I don't believe is the case in the NFL). These are the risks we are talking about.

They had a deal. The owners opted out, not the union. That is the point I was making.


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