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Thank you, Michael Irvin

Posted on: July 12, 2011 12:49 pm
Edited on: July 12, 2011 1:05 pm
 
For telling the truth. Please, don't stop. Keep telling the truth. Even when the homophobes and extremists try to shout you down, and they will, keep telling the truth. Even when some African-Americans, bathing in hypocrisy, try to stop you by saying being gay equates to being less than human, keep telling the truth.

I'd argue that your stance now is almost as significant as your Hall of Fame career. You've lended a high profile voice to the fight for equality and yes, keep telling the truth when you're told it's not that. Because it is.

Thank you, Michael Irvin. Hopefully other high profile athletes will follow your lead.

Please, keep telling the truth.
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Since: Feb 25, 2009
Posted on: July 20, 2011 4:08 pm
 

Thank you, Michael Irvin

My "facts" are based on Biblical standards.
LOL Then they are not "facts". Use the correct word: opinions, or beliefs, or leaps of faith. Nothing wrong with any of these words; I don't know why you avoid them.
Standards that helped shape this country.
Historically inaccurate. At best, the Founding Fathers were Deists, not Christians. The "standards" that helped shape this country came from the Enlightenment.

...but fools despise wisdom and instruction." No reason for me to comment on that 2nd part....
I assume you refer to yourself, here. Your previous post was rife with anti-intellectual, anti-knowledge language. The accusations of dictionary-diving, the attempts to undercut anything I said because the words I use are too big for your liking - these are the red flags of ignorance. Yes, I called you ignorant. It's amusing that you chafe under such an innocent word. Ignorance is lack of knowledge, nothing more. For you to decry the application is narcissistic in the extreme. At least I can admit that I am ignorant of many things.

Another word for immorality is homosexuality.
HAHAHAHAHAHA You really don't know what words mean, do you? And you serve up more proof of this immediately:
Ethicality, ie.... expressing moral approval.
No, silly man. Ethics are an expression of standards by which groups behave. Morals define personal character. "Ethicality" is the noun form of "ethical". Some advice: it's better to err on the side of simplicity. When you misuse words, you obfuscate your own meaning. Try simpler ones.

Ok, obviously, you do not realize this, but all of these things are straight from the Scriptures.
OK; obviously, you don't realize this, but all of these things predate the "scriptures" by thousands of years. Just because it later appeared in the Bible doesn't mean it retroactively belongs only to the Bible.

You hate religious people, yes.
More presumption. The world must be as you define it. Pure hubris.

You refer to me as idiotic, ignorant, stupid, etc.... Why? Because I don't agree with you?
No, because you continue to make assumptions about other people and insist that they are true while demanding that others adhere to a standard to which you do not adhere. This is a violation of one of Christ's first lessons in morality: hipocrisy. Christ would not have approved. So much for being Christ-like. Also, you misuse words, misapply meanings, fail to understand what you are reading and insist either that it's the writer's fault or that your misinterpretation is correct... These are all more accurate reasons why you are presenting yourself as ignorant, idiotic, and stupid. But once again, you erect your own straw men and insist that they represent the truth. For instance:
You refer to ALL homosexuals as being heroic.
I defy you to quote me saying that. Prove I said that or even implied it. At best, I asked what was wrong with a homosexual being a hero. Do you still not understand that you sound foolish?

This nation applauds anyone that "comes out"! This is blasphemy!!
And if we were living in a Christian Theocracy, that would mean something. But we are not. We live in a Republic, founded on the principles of the Enlightenment and formed under secular rule of law. It seems to be no end of galling to you that we aren't subject to your particular offshoot of the Judeo-Christian tree. Small wonder you shake your impotent fist so vigorously and use the word "hate" so often. Language shapes thinking, and your thinking seems to revolve around that word.

Want an example? In a recent movie Jennifer Aniston used the word "FA####", and was scolded by GLAAD because of it. She in turn issued an apology, and said that her "character" was supposed to be obnoxious, crude, and immoral. She claimed that she would normally never use a a term like that, but the character she was pertraying was a horrible person. However, her numerous usages of the words "God ####" and sacreligious references to Jesus she felt were hillarious, and comical. Equality?? Now that is funny!!
This is more comedy gold. An actress makes a personal decision to apologize to one group and not the other; therefore, the first group demands "more respect than they give any other culture or lifestyle"? That's what passes for reasoning with you? If you must condemn someone in the above example, it should be the actress, who's personal choice offended you. To brand an entire group from the actions of one person who isn't even a part of that group is seriously demented. Just because Jennifer Aniston apparently thinks that whatever pressure applied to her by groups offended by her "sacreligious references" wasn't sufficient doesn't mean that gays demand more respect for themselves than others. It means that Jennifer Aniston made a personal choice. Your attempt to conflate this with some kind of agenda on the part of LGBTs borders on the obsessive.

Keep up the hilarity. You're my new favorite court jester.



Since: Dec 22, 2008
Posted on: July 20, 2011 12:57 am
 

lotusmaglite

In regards to your "pee in your pants laugh" comment, and the claim that you have read the Bible many times. Both statements are sad, man. Very sad, and very pathetic. I could address more, but I'll just say this. You keep laughing, and I'll just keep believing Luke 6:22.



Since: Dec 22, 2008
Posted on: July 20, 2011 12:52 am
 

lotusmaglite

Wow! Where do I begin? First off you prove my point right out of the gate. In your first sentence you refer to me as ignorant. The next few sentences you refer to facts. Here is where you and I differ the most. My "facts" are based on Biblical standards. Standards that helped shape this country. Your facts are based on a mixture of humanistic idealogy and the current trending sensations of anyone who disagrees with such standards. After you referred to me as ignorant, you then refer to "people like you". Let me set one thing straight. I have not been trained to fear humanistic knowledge. I have been taught to believe what the Bible says in Proverbs 1:7, "The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge..." The 2nd part of that verse says "...but fools despise wisdom and instruction." No reason for me to comment on that 2nd part....

bReligious hate, hate for religion. Tit for tat.... You understood very well what I meant. You laugh, but the laughable thing is that you mention morality, ethicality, confidenence, compassion, and contentment. By stating these things I am assuming that you believe you have each of these. Let's look closer at each one. Morality, ie... a doctrine or virtue. The antonym to morality is immorality. Another word for immorality is homosexuality. Ethicality, ie.... expressing moral approval. See my last statement. Confidence, ie.... faith that one will act in a right or proper way. I love the word faith, but I digress. Anyone can have confidence. Charles Manson had confidence. Osama bin Laden had confidence. Freddie Mercury had.... nevermind, bad example. Then there is compassion and contentment. Ok, obviously, you do not realize this, but all of these things are straight from the Scriptures. The Bible commands all Christians to be moral, ethical (honest, trustworthy, moral), confident, compassionate, and content. In fact, almost all of these are mentioned in Phil 4:8. (Amazing how a free thinker like yourself would strive to have character traits based on Biblical teaching, LOL)

Ok, let me rephrase this point. I used the term "Religious people". You are right. There are a lot of religious people in the world who do not follow the Scriptures, and/or live lives of immorality, etc... The term I should have used was "Christian people". Christian = Christ-like people. I know people who attend church regularly, but stlll live immoral lives. However, a Christian person is someone who strives to live as the Bible teaches, and strives to live a moral life. You hate religious people, yes. But, Christian people are the people that confuse you. These people have peace. (by the way, those others you listed are not Christians. Those are people who hide under the Christian banner, and live a life of sin. Just like a person that calls themselves a homosexual Christian. ie... oxymoron) Lastly, religion hasn't done anything for me. Christianity has.

I love the Bill of Rights. There is nothing wrong with the Bill of Rights. It gives Americans the freedom to live their lives how they see fit. I personally don't care if you want to have a relationship with your boyfriend, your girlfriend, your neighbor, all your neighbors, your dog, your neighbors dog.....whatever. I have my own beliefs on these things, obviously. But there are laws in this land that were set to protect the sanctity of life, and the most important piece of American history; the American family. See, this is where you miss the boat. Your idea of the American family is perverted. And once this important piece of American history is torn down, the ideas of family can be ANYTHING. 2 men, 2 women, 3 men, 4 men, 1 man, and 2, 3, 4 women, 1 man and his pet. Our country allows people to live the lives they want. BUT, when someone comes in and says "I want to marry my gay partner", this completely destroys the foundation of how America was built. Obviously, I have a serious problem with gay marriage from a Biblical perspective, but based SOLELY on the Bill Of Rights, you and people like you are trying to destroy America's foundation!

My point about you painting religious people as hatemongers is proved in your prior statements. You refer to me as idiotic, ignorant, stupid, etc.... Why? Because I don't agree with you? Because I pray before I make major decisions? Because I consult my pastor for Spiritual guidance? Because I am a Christian? Why is it?

You refer to ALL homosexuals as being heroic. This nation applauds anyone that "comes out"! This is blasphemy!! Praising someone for comitting an abomination???? And in regards to equality.... GLAAD, PFLAG, and others in the GLBT community don't want equality! They want everyone in America to give them more respect than they give any other culture or lifestyle. Want an example? In a recent movie Jennifer Aniston used the word "FA####", and was scolded by GLAAD because of it. She in turn issued an apology, and said that her "character" was supposed to be obnoxious, crude, and immoral. She claimed that she would normally never use a a term like that, but the character she was pertraying was a horrible person. However, her numerous usages of the words "God ####" and sacreligious references to Jesus she felt were hillarious, and comical. Equality?? Now that is funny!!

Lastly, you scoff, and say I am throwing a "text-tantrum". (Interesting term) But sadly, no, I'm not. In fact, the best description for my post is a word you mentioned earlier. Let's see.... what was it? OH YEAH, Confidence!!!








Since: Feb 25, 2009
Posted on: July 19, 2011 5:01 pm
 

Thank you, Michael Irvin

I have been quiet for several days, but I just have to answer this. It is absurd for anyone to think a person is born gay. Being born left handed or right handed is something that is neurological. That is a physical trate. Blue eyes, green eyes, brown hair, blonde hair, etc..... All physical trates. Being gay is not a physical trate. The Bible says...
Perhaps you should have been quiet for a few more days, or at least long enough to reconsider this. I find it no end of funny that you begin by adamantly claiming that homosexuality is not a "trate" (whatever a "trate" is; I suppose you meant "trait"), then offer up "The Bible says..." as your evidence. You know, I've read the Bible may times. I've read the King James Version, the American Standard Version, the English Standard Version, the New Living Translation - suffice it to say I've read it a lot. Nowhere in any of those versions have I found the official or even unofficial religious treatise on genetics.

Anyway, I hope you keep posting, because this stuff is comedy gold. This:
Wake up America!! Parents are the problem! Society is the problem! SIN is the problem!! We need to start putting God first, and once we do that everything will be put into order again.
...is genius. Pee-your-pants funny. Also, did you intend to ironically imply that we should overthrow the government and end the Untited States of America as we know it? Because that it seriously clever.



Since: Feb 25, 2009
Posted on: July 19, 2011 4:49 pm
 

Thank you, Michael Irvin

You really don't know what the heck you are talking about, but you try to make yourself sound intelligent by using "big words". I bet your previous post took you 2 hours to write because of the constant word searches you were doing.
Hilarious. Argumentum ad hominem, the old standard of the ignorant. Those posts took me less than ten minutes, but if it took me 2 hours to get my facts straight and make cogent arguments, then that's what I would have done. This is the battle cry of the victims of the culture war. People like you have been trained to fear and distrust knowledge and intellect. This isn't your fault, of course, but that won't prevent me for enjoying the floundering stupidity.

Your posts are tainted with religious hate, and I bet the word "faith" makes your blood boil, am I right? You think anyone that bases their opinions solely on what the Bible says is ignorant, and people who pray to God are juvenile.
HAHAHAHA. You mean my posts are tainted with hate for religion, right? Religious hate is different. Anyway, this kind of crap make me fall down laughing. It's the projection thing; you can't understand how someone could be moral, ethical, confident, compassionate, and content without your particular strain of religion, so you project your own fear and ignorance on me. Like so:

The bottom line is that you may have a large vocabulary, you may even know some American history, but you hate religion and you hate religious people. Why? Because you can't understand them. You can understand gay people. You can understand educated people. You can understand free thinkers. But, for the life of you, you can't understand how someone can pray to a God they have never seen, and believe a book that was written over 2000 years ago. Deep down in your heart (below the anger, the hatred, the bitterness, the conceitedness) you are actually jealous. It bothers you how "Religious people" have peace, and through all of your education, all of your reading, all of your searching, you can't find that same peace.
LOL Just sublime. Yes, it's so hard for me to fathom why people want to belong to something greater than themselves /sarcasm. What a mind-bender. I sure do sit up every night wondering why people believe in their religion /sarcasm. Seriously, I could have written this oft-repeated drivel for you, I hear it so often. Especially the hilariously false premise that "religious people" are at peace. I suppose the pedophile priests, the abortion clinic bombers, the doctor murderers, and the closeted parishoners who struggle with their sexuality and peer pressure are all "at peace". Of course, there are millions who find consolation in religion. That's it's #1 effect. But somehow, it doesn't sound like it's worked for you.

The bottom line is that people like you are the problem with America.
And yet, you just can't seem to get around that whole Bill of Rights thing, can you? You just have to keep putting up with people like me. No, the problem with America isn't people like me. It's isn't religious people, either.

You paint religious people as hatemongers, and you promote homosexuals as heroes who need equality.
Reading comprehension, much? I paint hatemongers as hatemongers. Plenty of non-religious hatemongers out there. But sadly, your critical thinking skills appear to be lax. See, because some of the hatemongers I call out are religious doesn't mean all hatemongers are religious. Nor does it mean that all people I call out are religious, nor does it mean that I call them all out as hatemongers. And the second part is telling. What's wrong with a homosexual hero? What's wrong with equality? Harvey Milk was a hero. Rock Hudson was a hero. Too bad they never lived to see equality.

...you try to belittle Christianity by acting like all Christians are hypocrites.
Considering how wrong, ignorant, presumptive, strident, and angry your post was, I think you're doing a better job of "belittling" Christianity than I ever could. If the text-tantrum you just threw is representative of Christianity, it would be a small wonder if I viewed it with contempt. But unfortunately for you, I don't brand every Christian because of the actions of a few. That, again, is just your wrong, ignorant, strident, angry presumption.

You hate us. You hate anyone who tries to hold on to the same beliefs that your dad and your grandfather had because simply you hate them, too. Do I know you? Nope! But I know your type, and have debated your type for years. You will never admit that anything I said is true, but in your heart you know that I just hit the nail right on the head. Right? That's what I thought.
You really like to use the word "hate" a lot, don't you? More projection; more presumption. Yawn. Although I do admit I'm starting to dislike at least one Christian...



Since: Dec 22, 2008
Posted on: July 17, 2011 1:05 am
 

lotusmaglite

People like you are depressing. You really don't know what the heck you are talking about, but you try to make yourself sound intelligent by using "big words". I bet your previous post took you 2 hours to write because of the constant word searches you were doing. You fit the stereotype of what we call in Texas, "booksmart, but the common sense of a turnip". Your posts are tainted with religious hate, and I bet the word "faith" makes your blood boil, am I right? You think anyone that bases their opinions solely on what the Bible says is ignorant, and people who pray to God are juvenile. You come on here and you beat people up with words because in your mind you think you are above them; mentally and socially. You put people down with big words to intimidate them, and try to cover up your agenda: You think you are smarter than everyone else because you are open-minded! The bottom line is that you may have a large vocabulary, you may even know some American history, but you hate religion and you hate religious people. Why? Because you can't understand them. You can understand gay people. You can understand educated people. You can understand free thinkers. But, for the life of you, you can't understand how someone can pray to a God they have never seen, and believe a book that was written over 2000 years ago. Deep down in your heart (below the anger, the hatred, the bitterness, the conceitedness) you are actually jealous. It bothers you how "Religious people" have peace, and through all of your education, all of your reading, all of your searching, you can't find that same peace.

The bottom line is that people like you are the problem with America. You paint religious people as hatemongers, and you promote homosexuals as heroes who need equality. You speak of the Pope (I'm not Catholic) as a man who has overlooked decades of pedophiles and sexual predators in the Catholic church like that is all he does. I don't agree with his stance on these issues, but you try to belittle Christianity by acting like all Christians are hypocrites. Again, your mind can't comprehend Christianity. You hate us. You hate anyone who tries to hold on to the same beliefs that your dad and your grandfather had because simply you hate them, too. Do I know you? Nope! But I know your type, and have debated your type for years. You will never admit that anything I said is true, but in your heart you know that I just hit the nail right on the head. Right? That's what I thought. So go back to your dictionary. Go back to your books. Go back to your open-minded friends, and laugh with them about how stupid Christian people are. HAHAHA!!!! But just remember tonight when you are lying in bed..... There is a God in Heaven. You have two choices: Heaven or Hell! You may live for 50 years, or you could die before tomorrow rolls around. Where are you going? Heaven or hell???



Since: Dec 22, 2008
Posted on: July 17, 2011 12:21 am
 

No, a person is not born gay!!

I have been quiet for several days, but I just have to answer this. It is absurd for anyone to think a person is born gay. Being born left handed or right handed is something that is neurological. That is a physical trate. Blue eyes, green eyes, brown hair, blonde hair, etc..... All physical trates. Being gay is not a physical trate. The Bible says that the devil is like a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour. The devil will put obstacles in a person's life to make them believe anything. You speak of children that "are born gay"? HOGWASH!!! A child is very confused as he/she goes through puberty. Many kids are left to grow up on their own, or else MTV and the Internet are raising them. You have singers like Katy Perry singing songs like "I Kissed A Girl...", and a young lady that is going through puberty with raging hormones and tons of confusion about her sexuality that decided, Hmm, maybe I should try it. She does, and feels something, and then thinks "Hey, maybe I'm gay!" NO!!!! You felt something because females are turned on by touch, and males by sight. You felt something because it was sensual perversion. Perversion can feel good. That's why it is so damaging!

Other situations have young men that grew up in a house without a father or with an abusive father, and they find strenth in their mother. So they take on the effiminate personalities of their mother, and then the masculine guys in school separate them because they act effiminate. They end up being singled out with other effiminate boys, and next thing you know they think they are gay. And when you have these powerful groups like GLAAD and PFLAG coming out and shoving their politics down everyone's throats you have these same children thinking "Hey, I'm kind of like that, or I have a friend that is like that, and it makes me mad, too!!"

This is a snowball effect on society. God and the Bible were taken out of the classroom, and over 50 percent of marriages end in divorce. Children are being raised in single parent homes, and never darken the doorstep of a church. MTV and the Internet are brainwashing our children because moms and dads are too busy to go and see what their children are watching, or looking at, or what songs are on their iPods. They never even ask who their friends are. America is in a tailspin where God is the enemy now, and the Homosexual perverts are the heroes. Wake up America!! Parents are the problem! Society is the problem! SIN is the problem!! We need to start putting God first, and once we do that everything will be put into order again.



Since: Feb 25, 2009
Posted on: July 16, 2011 3:19 am
 

Thank you, Michael Irvin

I'm not a religous person but you'd think the Pope would have a little insight into the health of society. Let me guess, gay guys are smarter than the Pope?
This is hilarious. Best two lines of the thread. The Pope, head of the Catholic Church, which has been responsible for the Crusades, the Inquisition, the suppression of human advancement during the Enlightenment, corruption (like Indulgences) beyond the dreams of even American politicians, wars, pogroms, assassinations, and of course covering up for and protecting pedophiles, is being held up as a shining example of what is healthy for a society.

I'm sure the Pope is a very smart man. Who is bathed in centuries of innocent blood.



Since: Feb 25, 2009
Posted on: July 16, 2011 3:06 am
 

Thank you, Michael Irvin

Okay, I'll try this again, since my last one disappeared.

I never said anything should not be done or that Gays do not deserve equal treatment.
Wrong. Just because you hid your rationale behind a vague reference to your bank account doesn't mean you get to run away from your own words. You oppose "gay marriage" because you think it will cost you money. That is what you are saying, no matter how much semantic gymnastics you've followed it  up with. It's a pretty craven attempt to have your cake and eat it, too. Not to mention the fact that it's a very lame and afrfetched excuse for your opposition. If you're wondering why people are calling you a bigot, this is why.

I also mentioned several times about ammendments to the constitution and that has been the proper channel for gaining rights denied over the history of our country.
Absolutely, 100% historically wrong. Utterly wrong. Every instance of rights-through-legislation has been the result of popular struggle. The Bill of Rights was not some spontaneous afterthought benevolently bestowed upon the people; it was a concession that was owed to great public outcry. And Constitutional amendments are a pittance. Almost every modern "right" has been won through the courts - also after vociferous and massive popular struggle. "Proper channel", indeed. If you're wondering why people are calling ou ignorant, this is why.

Also, if a law is based on greed, then it is based on a moral...
You do like the bait-and-switch, don't you. First you repeatedly try to assert that our laws are based on Christian morality, and then when I point out that some laws are not based on and such thing, you decide that you're using a new, selective meaning for the term. Pathetic. Especially considering the fact that you ignored my other example - you know, the one that is absolutely not a moral in any cherry-picked sense you want to apply. You said all laws were based on morals. I proved you wrong. Instead of admitting you made a faulty, grand generalization, you start splitting hairs. If you're wondering why my replies to you have been less-than-gentlemanly, this is why. I abhor this kind of intellectual dishonesty.

If you tell me to keep my opinions and my beliefs in my house, church and head, then you do the same you hypocrite.
Then it's a good thing I never told you to keep your opinions and beliefs in your house, church, and head. I said to keep religions where they belong, and out of the laws. This is the sort of thing that brings me to the next ludicrous statement.

Otherwise, stop calling people ignorant, stupid and backward because they want to stand by what they believe even though it is different than yours.
Of course, you know perfectly well that I haven't called anyone ignorant, stupid, or backward for any such thing. If I called anyone any name synonymous with those aforementioned, it wasn't for "standing by what they believe". It was for doing what you have: Hiding behind the pale shelter of bloodless selfishness in order to defend the denying of an entire class of United States citizens a basic human right, making untrue assertions, backpedaling from the obvious intent of your position, and misrepresenting mine and my statements.

You know, I'm glad for you that you've decided - to paraphrase you - to "out" yourself. From this conversation, that is. I would want to imply a meaning you did not intend. Anyway, it's probably for the best. The increasingly twisted game of semantics you were forced to go through in order to defend the indefensible was getting pretty embarrassing. Personally, I think you just made a few statements you probably didn't think through and for some reason (a common one, probably), you couldn't just say, "Whoops, my bad." So, I'm happy for you. I hope the break gives you time to reexamine your own ideas and motivations. Perhaps you'll reemerge in a more thoughful, egalitarian form. Or perhaps you'll shed the transparent cloak you've kept awkwardly about you and argue from the more intellectually honest position of simply disliking homosexuality. Either way, it would be a lot better than the tortured mess you've presented so far. Sincerely, I wish you the best.



Since: Feb 25, 2009
Posted on: July 15, 2011 6:13 pm
 

Thank you, Michael Irvin

Establishment clause - THE #1 most misinterpreted constitutional language ever...(in my opinion) to the detriment of our society.  Now used so effectively to allow and tolerate all things EXCEPT Christianity.
Hilarious. Christians are the most coddled, protected group in the entire country, and yet they're one of the loudest complainers. Of course you think that it allows everything except Christianity. Mostly because Christianity doesn't allow certain things protected by law. This drives certain Cristians nuts, so they kick and scream and throw a hissy fit, saying their "beliefs" aren't "respected". They're respected just fine. They're just not law.

Great example of my point.  Keep my beliefs where they belong because they are based in Christianity (whether I actually say it or not), but yours, because secular, are defendable and allowed to influence laws and public policy and cannot be criticized.  Do you see the hipocracy?
No, not your beliefs. All religious belief that is at variance with law. Our country was founded on the principle of secular rule of law. This protects the religions from the whims of the people and the people from the whims of the religions.

If someone were to come to the both of us and argue that he has the right to kill anyone he wants, I imagine he'd find a united front of oppostition. Both would be based on the moral objection to murder, even if the morals came from different sources. No one would tell you that you can't express your Christian belief that murder is wrong. In fact, no one would tell you that you can't express any Christian belief. You would not, however, be allowed to deny rights to another person based on those beliefs.

This is not "hipocrisy". You can make it look a bit like hipocrisy if you arrange your statements very carefully and interpret things in one, very specific way. Telling you that you are wrong is not trampling on your beliefs or your freedoms. Preventing you from attending church because I think you're wrong is. Do you see the difference?


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