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Thank you, Michael Irvin

Posted on: July 12, 2011 12:49 pm
Edited on: July 12, 2011 1:05 pm
For telling the truth. Please, don't stop. Keep telling the truth. Even when the homophobes and extremists try to shout you down, and they will, keep telling the truth. Even when some African-Americans, bathing in hypocrisy, try to stop you by saying being gay equates to being less than human, keep telling the truth.

I'd argue that your stance now is almost as significant as your Hall of Fame career. You've lended a high profile voice to the fight for equality and yes, keep telling the truth when you're told it's not that. Because it is.

Thank you, Michael Irvin. Hopefully other high profile athletes will follow your lead.

Please, keep telling the truth.
Category: NFL

Since: Jan 8, 2007
Posted on: July 13, 2011 8:50 am

Thank you, Michael Irvin

Because if we didn't change as we grow and evolve, you would probably be dead by now. So would most of us. We don't change what is right and wrong. We realize that some things we thought were right (slavery, women as second-class citizens, burning people alive for having the hiccups) are wrong, and we realize that some things we thought were wrong (free elections, women having rights, homosexuality) are not.
The inability to change your mind isn't a moral compass. It's willful ignorance. If you refuse to learn any better, you're not more moral. Just less informed.

Decent logic overall.   I'm still asking, based on what moral compass, doctrine, belief system are you deciding what previous opinion was right or wrong?   Sounds like Secular Humanism.  That's a slippery slope.

Since: Feb 17, 2007
Posted on: July 13, 2011 8:48 am

Thank you, Michael Irvin

Yeah, I think Michael Irvin is a wonderful voice for gay rights.  If I needed someone to back my moral choices I would certainly pick someone with as many vices as M.I.

We all make choices.  I may be more prone to killing someone because I've seen it done, have had a bad upbringing, and have anger issues but when it comes right down to it I chose to or not to kill.  If homosexuality is genetic then so is everything else. 

Since: Jan 8, 2007
Posted on: July 13, 2011 8:46 am

Thank you, Michael Irvin

WOW haggz, that was quite a bit of hyperbole for simply making the point that morality cannot be fluid.  I'm not making a direct statement regarding this specific subject (gay marriage), it was in response to a poster that said, in general term like you, that its 2011, we need to evolve.  OK, fine.  Based on what moral compass? 

The opposite of a hard liner would be a soft liner and that is my point. 

Since: Oct 25, 2008
Posted on: July 13, 2011 8:35 am

Thank you, Michael Irvin

Okay NFL Players... now you understand why Freeman scratches his way into the locker rooms for "interviews" before you're all showered up.

Since: Feb 28, 2011
Posted on: July 13, 2011 8:32 am

Thank you, Michael Irvin

Al is a cancer - if it is not a choice, then how can a gay person decide to change and live as a heterosexual? They CHOSE to you idiot!

Since: Sep 5, 2009
Posted on: July 13, 2011 8:28 am

Thank you, Michael Irvin

colt_45s, it is pompous know-it-alls like you that make me glad I turned away from organized religion.   As for the topic at hand, it does not affect me so I say it is none of my business.  If they are consenting adults and American citizens then they should have the same rights as other Americans. 

Since: Dec 20, 2006
Posted on: July 13, 2011 8:27 am

Thank you, Michael Irvin


You are a fool.  You can't honestly beleive you choose to be gay?????  Who would choose to live a life a gay man or woman has to live in this society. You are born gay.  They deserve all the rights everyone else enjoys.  Grow up and get over it.

Since: Feb 28, 2011
Posted on: July 13, 2011 8:27 am

Thank you, Michael Irvin

Suicidaire - if the respect comment is directed toward me, then I  will respond. I do have respect for every human being. I do not infringe on anyone's personal rights. I do not steal, cheat, kill or hurt anyone intentionally. I also never said anyone was guilty of anything. I only stated the rights that provided to certain groups of people through the constitution. Right or wrong there are no rights provided there based on sexual preference.

If you think I am petty, as well as your friends, that is ok. I do not need your approval anyway. If you knew me at all, you would realize that statement is ridiculous. I spend over 10 hours each week volunteering for public service for people who have gotten into trouble through drugs, DUI or family violence. These people, as well as my friends and community feel like I am not petty, but a person who gives of their time freely to help others who are down on their luck. Good luck with that judging others. For me, I will continue to just obey the law as it is written until it is changed, then I will obey it then. If that is narrow minded, then maybe more criminals should be narrow minded.

Since: Feb 28, 2011
Posted on: July 13, 2011 8:15 am

Thank you, Michael Irvin

Suicidaire -

First, I did not make any of the laws and some I don't agree with at all, but I obey the law, because my parents taught me to obey the law and to respect authority. You say I do things because my bible told me too. Where did I mention the bible? I said the US Constitution provides the protection, not the bible. Don't try to twist my words.

Second, black people are born black. Sexual preference is a choice. Some people and I know a couple personally were at one time living a homosexual or heterosexual lifestyle and changed for their benefit. You can't change from black to white because you CHOOSE to do so.

You need to stop believing all the Socialist propaganda because your parents, some public school teacher or socialist politician told you so.

Since: Oct 15, 2006
Posted on: July 13, 2011 7:34 am

Thank you, Michael Irvin

lotusmaglite - No, we don't have to have a "moral compass" for this country, and our laws are based on something better: Secular rule of law, which this country was founded on.

Dumbest statement yet. All laws are based on some moral value - we don't steal, because it is wrong to take another's posession - why is it wrong? Because someone decided it was wrong to do that. It is a value. Our country was based on certain moral values. Stop trying to say we do not have to have moral values. All laws are based on a set of certain moral values a society has created to live by, so that the world is civilized.

You are right - the law is for everyone and at present, the US Consititution and its ammendments provide protection under the law for all races, sexes and religions - not sexual preference. That is the current law.

Laws in this country are based on revenue. Don't oversell it to make your point. If there isn't money involved, politicians don't give a damn.

Of course our laws are based on someone's moral values because laws, much like the bible, are created by man. Man is fallable and generally only cares about himself and his kind (majority rules). The only reason today's laws resemble those of the commandments or the bible is this. First because most of them are obvious enough that the cavemen that initially wrote them down could figure out their value and, secondly, there are a LOT of sheep in this world that take everything at face value rather than taking in all information and making an educated decision.

It's unfortunate you still consider it a "preference." Your parents did you a disservice. You must think that black people chose to be black at anytime up until 1970 and that slavery is still a super idea. You must also think that Jewish people chose to live in Nazi Germany at any point before Hitler was mercifully removed. There are too many other atrocities that have occured in this planet's history to list, but you clearly think everyone of them was a good idea simply because it didn't affect you and the bible told you so.

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