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Manning, Brees also want free agency

Posted on: July 19, 2011 11:37 am
There are more problems in the final days of the CBA negotiations between the owners and players and those issues settle around Peyton Manning and Drew Brees.

Multiple sources say that Manning, one of the named plaintiffs, wants immediate free agency in order to settle the lawsuit. Those sources also say Brees wants to be a free agent next year. The sources say lawyers for the NFLPA have asked NFL owners for those two things in addition to the reported demands from players Logan Mankins and Vincent Jackson.

The new CBA will get done but this is still a troubling sign that the the NFLPA is making last ditch efforts to get more from the owners. It can, indeed, slow things down.

Again, a deal will get done this week but this is not great news.

Brees is scheduled to earn $10 million in 2011 and Manning was tagged for 2011 that would pay him $23 million.

A CBA cannot be agreed upon unless all the plaintiffs settle the case.
Category: NFL
Tags: lockout

Since: Dec 16, 2006
Posted on: July 19, 2011 2:46 pm

Manning, Brees also want free agency

Look, I don't pretend to understand half of all this but it seems silly that there is a seperate lawsuit with 10 players as plaintiffs.  Are they representing the entire NFLPA on this lawsuit?  If so, why wouldnt this be an NFLPA vs NFL lawsuit?  I don't get it.  If they wanna finalize a deal that seems to be ready then it would only make sense to drop the lawsuit so the lawyers can dot the I's and cross the T's.  I'm a huge Colts/Manning fan but even I think this is holding everything up and it seems very self serving if it's one of the only things holding up a new CBA.  Please, correct me if I'm wrong on this line of thinking.

Since: May 17, 2008
Posted on: July 19, 2011 2:39 pm

Manning, Brees also want free agency

As for Brees, New Orleans is easy to get to from his Houston home base and he loves playing for Sean Payton & the Saints so no it isn't about money it's just a way to settle the lawsuit fast so that in essence moves the CBA closer to getting done so they can get back to football.
Jeez, THINK before you type and assume someone is being greedy, use some logic instead of just knee jerk reaction
Maybe you need to "THINK before you type"...if Brees and Manning want to "settle the lawsuit fast so that in essence moves the CBA closer to getting done" the free agency demand is the "long way around the barn".  Want to end the lawsuit fast so it is not in the way of the CBA -- file a "Voluntary Dismissal"....lawsuit over, sign and ratify the CBA, end of story....making more and more demands to basically get two and only two players more money with early free agency does nothing to advance the new CBA, it only delays it.  If the CBA as drafted is agreeable to the majority of NFL players, sign it and dismiss the lawsuit.

Since: May 17, 2008
Posted on: July 19, 2011 2:34 pm

Manning, Brees also want free agency

how much did Jerry Jones pay for that new stadium?
The answer is about $800 Million out of the total cost os $1.1Billion or so.  But what does that have to do with whether or not Peyton Manning is being "greedy" by holding up the new CBA with a demand for free agency?

over 50% of them are broke after 10 years of retirment because they have to pay out of pocket for there medical
And 69.5% of all statistics are made up on the spot -- I dont know where you get your 50% and 10 year figures, but most players who go broke go broke for the same reason that many non-athletes do----they spend too much and save/invest to little, or make dumb risky investments that don't pan out, or decent investments that just unluckily fail (i.e the real estate bust) and, sometimes, medical bills too (although they get free health insurance for at least 5 years after their careers, plus their pensions, etc).  Lets say Manning makes $23million -- lets say paying his agent and taxes takes 40%, that leaves him$13.8 million.  Invest that in a tax free municple bond at just 3% and he'd make $414,000 per year forever, without touching the initial $13.8 million.  That is more than enough to live on, including buying health insurance to cover future medical after the NFL medical coverage runs out.

there not tackling 13 year old kids that catch balls and run away unlock a lebron james that has to swat a kids shot to win a game of horse or dwayne wade.. go bash them
What the H*LL does this mean?  Lebron is getting paid to play H-O-R-S-E with kids?  Lebron has not been bashed over his career decisions?  Really?

let them get paid they live hard lives.. u dont think so? tell everyone in your family u hit the lottery for 100 million.. now u know what they go through
Nobody is saying don't pay Manning--the Colts have agreed to pay him $23million next year.  But "hard lives" -- really?  Only if they make it hard.  Manning does not have to do the charity events, he chooses to and I applaud him for it.  He does not have to do talk shows, SNL, or TV commercials -- he does it because he chooses to do so in exchange for vast sums of money, more money in a year than a huge percentage of americans will see in a lifetime.  Again, that is his choice so  if these things make his life "hard", that is on him -- just stop.  I will gladly take the $100million lottery, tell my family, and deal with the terrible hardships that come with it and I guarantee you I will not complain 1 time.

Since: Sep 5, 2006
Posted on: July 19, 2011 2:27 pm

Manning, Brees also want free agency

The owners should let who become free agents? Manning and Bress? All ten players in the lawsuit (one of which is a rookie)? Every player in the NFL?? Who? If Manning and Brees become free agents and their teams lowball them, then Indy and New Orleans can say goodbye to Manning and Brees. It's time to grow up and think a little. And there are additional problems with your "plan." First, owners can't get together and decide to lowball players. That's called collusion, and owners are not allowed to do it. There's actually a collusion suit pending as we speak. Second, the owners cannot agree to lowball players because the new CBA won't allow it. There is a cash-to-cap ratio they have to meet. In other words, they have to pay players.

Since: May 19, 2009
Posted on: July 19, 2011 2:27 pm

Manning, Brees also want free agency

Any athlete making over 5 mil a year should STFU. You play sports and make more money in one year then most ever do in a life time or 10. You want benefits, save your damn money instead of buying mansions and yatchs the size of islands, stop blinging your self blind, stop making it rain with 100's on a nightly basis. Come back to reality!

Since: Jul 22, 2007
Posted on: July 19, 2011 2:21 pm

Manning, Brees also want free agency

There are a few "house cleaning" items that need to be taken care of in order for the new CBA to go forward.
Yesterday they settled the issue on benefits for the retired players that was one of them, this lawsuit brought by 10 players & included Manning & Brees is another one that needs to be addressed.
Once it is addressed then they can move forward & get this whole situation wrapped up.
NOW, if Manning, Brees & the rest of the players who are elegible are declared "Free agents" then they can move forward to finish off the rest of the issues and the CBA gets done which means we get back to football faster.
If they aren't declared Free Agents then you have to work out compensation for each of the plaintiffs and that can lead to the CBA being delayed and thus the season is being delayed.
It's all right there in the story, you can't just "drop the case", there must be a decision reached and the Free agent settlement option moves the process along faster.
I will also reiterate that most of the players that are plaintiffs are not seeking a raise like Brees & Manning though there are some like Logan mankins & Vincent jackson that are or they want to be declared free agents to then work out a deal with their old team or move on to a new one.
I can tell you that in the case of Mankins the Pats will let him walk, he wants way too much money and though he is a very good guard I just don't see them paying him the big money he wants.
Manning it's been said doesn't wnat to go anywhere he's asking for the free agency now to give this lawsuit an expediant result.
We all know that, he's shown what a classy guy he is, no need to assume he's out to break tha bank right?
I know we're all fans and we get emotional but think logically for a moment, think of the player involved and what is really plausible and what isn't.

Since: Jul 19, 2011
Posted on: July 19, 2011 2:18 pm

Manning, Brees also want free agency

The owners should let them all become free agents and decrease what they will pay them.

Since: May 17, 2008
Posted on: July 19, 2011 2:18 pm

Manning, Brees also want free agency

so many people hating on manning but wasnt no of you on here saying nothing when he took pay cuts his WHOLE CARRER
Manning never took a paycut--he may have signed for less than he could have but that is not a paycut.  That, and he's crying about making $23million dollars this year, assuming no extension is signed (when we all know it will be and the team owner has pubicly stated that he will make Manning the highest paid player in the NFL) so, no, I am not going to cry for the plight of Peyton Manning and how "unfairly" he has been treated, no award him any medals for the "paycuts" he has taken.

Since: Aug 18, 2010
Posted on: July 19, 2011 2:17 pm

Manning, Brees also want free agency

@Bison--How does Manning and Brees being declared free agents help speed the process?  If they wanted to speed up the process, all they have to do is drop their lawsuit.  You wrote that twice, and neither time did it make any sense.  You talk about logic but I do not see any in your statement.  Maybe you could enlighten us as to how making Manning and Brees free agents speeds up the process more than them dropping their lawsuits. 

Since: Apr 26, 2011
Posted on: July 19, 2011 2:16 pm

Manning, Brees also want free agency


Go back to grade school man. You sound like an incoherent illiterate retard. Nobody is every going to take you serious in the world if you insist on being an uneducated dumbass.

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