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Roger Goodell losing power?

Posted on: August 3, 2011 10:44 pm
 

The owners and players are discussing a plan that provides a process for player appeals that would fall outside the office of the commissioner following punishment by Roger Goodell for on-field violations, a league source has told me.

The league and owners are considering something called jointly hired appeals officers. They would be available to players who want to appeal any decision made by Goodell. Currently, Goodell is judge and jury when it comes to player punishment and any appeals are heard by Goodell.

The players have been fighting for Goodell to lose some of his power over them and it appears that just might happen. If true, and the appeals officers are indeed used, it would represent one of the most significant shifts in the player-commissioner relationship in recent league history.

The owners and players remain on track to finalize the CBA on Thursday.

More on this story to come.

Category: NFL
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Since: Jul 6, 2008
Posted on: August 4, 2011 1:47 am
 

Roger Goodell losing power?

why would goodall want a team in london????? LA maybe but london?? he.s an idiot !!! who would want to be drafted by them ? to risky and sounds stupid to me . the priemere leauge dont put a team over here so why would goodall and the owners want a team over there ?? no !!no !! no!!



Since: Oct 18, 2007
Posted on: August 4, 2011 1:37 am
 

Roger Goodell losing power?

Despite what the media says, players have been running as wild now as they did back before Goodell. Only difference is he'll sometimes give really strict punishments and then pretend some other incidents never happened.



Since: Oct 18, 2007
Posted on: August 4, 2011 1:36 am
 

Roger Goodell losing power?

As he should. If appeals go straight to him, why appeal?



Since: Aug 4, 2011
Posted on: August 4, 2011 1:18 am
 

Roger Goodell losing power?

Players don't need a slave master for all of you haters info.  Let Gestapo Goodell teach your kids.




Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: August 4, 2011 1:17 am
 

Roger Goodell losing power?

IT WILL NOT HAPPEN FREEMAN, IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN FREEMAN. Sorry but your boys are not going to be allowed to run wild under Goddell's watch

Of course players aren't going to run wild under Goodell's watch, he's good at what he does.  This appeals thing for on field issues will make the players feel better and the odd ruling will be reduced and maybe the very odd time you'll see a complete reversal but all in all not much is going to change.  Anybody that thinks the NFL is going to allow a person that handles appeals to embarass the commissioner is a moron, it's not gonna happen. 



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: August 4, 2011 1:13 am
 

Roger Goodell losing power?

But when it comes to most rule changes I think Goodell is a joke. These quarterback protection rules and others against the defense is ridiculous. Last time I checked the game being played was football. I'm not one to really use cliche terms often, but if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen

You don't understand what many others on these boards have trouble understanding as well, Goodel isn't the only one making these decisions.  The board of governors consisting of basically the owners vote on these rule changes and almost unanimously approve each and every one of these rules. Goodel works for the owners and recently got an extension for a reason.  NFL football is prospering and seeing an increase in revenues every single season, one after another.  People can pretend Goodel has nothing to do with it and that anybody can do what he does but the bottom line is as long as the NFL is prospering Goodel isn't going anywhere.



Since: Jul 31, 2011
Posted on: August 4, 2011 1:07 am
 

Roger Goodell losing power?

The punishments really aren't the problem with Goodell, however I do agree that someone else should oversee the appeals process besides the man who makes the initial judgement; it just is a process that doesn't make a whole lot of sense. But when it comes to most rule changes I think Goodell is a joke. These quarterback protection rules and others against the defense is ridiculous. Last time I checked the game being played was football. I'm not one to really use cliche terms often, but if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. Injuries are going to happen no matter what, doesn't mean you have to affect the integrity of a game known for it's physicality.



Since: Aug 27, 2006
Posted on: August 4, 2011 12:58 am
 

Roger Goodell losing power?

There is nothing wrong with discipline being enforced but there should be an appeals process. That is just basic due process which is a cornerstone of democracy in general.



Since: May 31, 2007
Posted on: August 4, 2011 12:56 am
 

Roger Goodell losing power?

The important byline here is that these outside appeals would apply only to *on-field* issues for which the players are disciplined.  So the fines for head-shots and whatnot.  Even if this goes through, Goodell remains Judge/Jury/Executioner with regards to all of the 'personal conduct' rules and the like.  Personally, I don't think it's a problem of him having the power as much as it's a problem of inconsistency.  It's not hard to know what will earn a fine... but the amounts seem downright random and arbitrary.  I think if the numbers were standardized somewhat (i.e. X amount for this type of infraction, Y amount for that type... all fines increased by one factor for each subsequent occurrence within the season, whatever) that would take a lot of the annoyance out of it.  Then at least it would be less subjective, so the players wouldn't feel like he was out to get them by making their fine twice what the guy next door got hit with for the same thing.



Since: Jul 9, 2009
Posted on: August 4, 2011 12:54 am
 

Roger Goodell losing power?

"jointly hired appeals officers"--isn't that just a fancy term for "arbitrators"?


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